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Old 2009-12-20, 02:26   Link #2201
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Finally saw episode 12 and it was absolutely horrible. I really enjoyed the series as a whole. I enjoyed episode 11. But episode 12 was devoid of anything I could find entertaining. I understand it was a filler episode with no relation to the actual storyline, but the whole episode was a complete and utter failure and really was just a pain to watch. Not funny. Not interesting.

One of my biggest annoyances was the extended use of the voice of Nomura Michiko, the voice of Natsuru's Messenger. In a limited role as just Natsuru's Messenger, I found her voice tolerable. But here in episode 12, in a larger role in replacing Natsuru's body, her voice just sounded grating and insufferable.

I really did enjoy Kämpfer and I would definitely welcome an OVA or a second season, but when I look back at this series and try to remember my favorite moments, it definitely won't be of this episode.
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Old 2009-12-20, 14:31   Link #2202
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[QUOTE:=Nosauz;2794764]Well the main thing, is the OP to the show just implies something completely different. I usually take my ques from the op as to how a show will progress, I guess score 1 to the animators and zero for nosauz.[/QUOTE]

The OP does appear to have Shiziku and female Natsuru kissing. That or Akane and Mikoto.

None of the other possible pairings are close enough together in height. :}
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Old 2009-12-20, 20:04   Link #2203
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Kämpfer. Final Thoughts

Recently watched the eleventh episode. So this is how Kämpfer ends for the time being.

Before the start of the season, I have my eyes set on this show but got my reservation upon deciding to watch it or not.

After all, this show is of the harem comedy type, and I don't frequent that kind of anime genre. Nonetheless, I gave myself a push to go on and watch it, since it's been a long while since I picked-up a harem comedy.

The thing is though that IMO Kämpfer did not strictly fall to the standards of the genre. More than the fights and battles were all the three girls' initiative and proactiveness to get hold of male Natsuru. Add to the fact that Kämpfer includes a similar premise to that of Ranma 1/2, which the male protagonist changes to a girl.

The thing that broke a little bit further the conventionalities on Kämpfer's genre was the fact that male protagonist's love interest....
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Old 2009-12-20, 22:02   Link #2204
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Episode 12 was hilarious, yeah obviously it's supposed to be like an OVA type episode, like some other series, have where it has no bearing on the actual plot. Also, that's one heck of a bed time story to read to little kid. especially "the nibbling on random body parts" scene.

all an all a good series, even if it did have a couple of off moments, would have liked there to have been more fighting and less harem, but that's fine. If it ends up getting licensed in US, I'll definitely pick it up.
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Old 2009-12-21, 05:43   Link #2205
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It is quite a turn for Megu (the VA) though. From the inuloli Ranka to this. I would say she did quite well too this time round, so there isn't any real reason to antagonise her.
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Old 2009-12-21, 06:25   Link #2206
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come on did u not see this i was confused on how it all ended way it did right here.



still it shocking to see this every day do you two natsura boy & girl version and having a daughter

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Old 2009-12-21, 07:00   Link #2207
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Guys. This is naturally no ending. This is CLEARLY a 100% mindless fun "let's go into overdrive" BS episode.

I find it inconceivable that anyone could even THINK that this was supposed to be the real ending.
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Old 2009-12-21, 07:27   Link #2208
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still it shocking to see this every day do you two natsura boy & girl version and having a daughter

why not?, even if they still one body, Natsuru can have child by him self.
the process:
Natsuru (male) > fapping > store the seed > transform > inject herself with the seed > Pregnant > get a child
The only trouble is if Shizuku find Natsuru pregnant and then she questioning her who's the father
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Old 2009-12-21, 09:52   Link #2209
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why not?, even if they still one body, Natsuru can have child by him self.
the process:
Natsuru (male) > fapping > store the seed > transform > inject herself with the seed > Pregnant > get a child
The only trouble is if Shizuku find Natsuru pregnant and then she questioning her who's the father
this theory is based on the assumption that once female natsuru concieves and is pregnanat she would and have to stay female mode for the entire 40weeks +

I mean if she were ti return to male mode would that not kill the baby inside or would the baby suddenly got into "pocket space" or worse male natsuru would still be pregnant ?
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Old 2009-12-21, 10:29   Link #2210
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this theory is based on the assumption that once female natsuru concieves and is pregnanat she would and have to stay female mode for the entire 40weeks +

I mean if she were ti return to male mode would that not kill the baby inside or would the baby suddenly got into "pocket space" or worse male natsuru would still be pregnant ?
IMO her pregnancy will transferred to pocket space (mind you that it's from another world) and Natsuru will get it again once he transformed to Kampfer mode

so Natsuru male still have flat belly, but when he transform, she will get some drum on her stomach containing her own baby

One more trouble will be added once she give birth, she must breast feeding his baby Gyahahahahaha
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Old 2009-12-21, 11:51   Link #2211
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IMO her pregnancy will transferred to pocket space (mind you that it's from another world) and Natsuru will get it again once he transformed to Kampfer mode

so Natsuru male still have flat belly, but when he transform, she will get some drum on her stomach containing her own baby

One more trouble will be added once she give birth, she must breast feeding his baby Gyahahahahaha
I see.

You do realise that such a child will be nothing more than a genetic duplicate of Natsuru. In other words an asexually reproduced clone.

I think the immune system of female natsuru would cause a miscarriage (same rhesus type as the parents) , but thats is beside the point.

Knowing how weird the story is it would be funny if twins were produced.

One boy, One girl. They both can switch genders at will. The madness would never stop.

By the way... you do realise Shizuku would never allow male Natsuru's semen to go anywhere except inside Shizuku sama herself ?
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Old 2009-12-21, 14:53   Link #2212
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I see.

You do realise that such a child will be nothing more than a genetic duplicate of Natsuru. In other words an asexually reproduced clone.

I think the immune system of female natsuru would cause a miscarriage (same rhesus type as the parents) , but thats is beside the point.
Yup! but it not a problem, since both of parent have same DNA after all, so the baby will have same immune like the father and as strong as the mama

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Knowing how weird the story is it would be funny if twins were produced.

One boy, One girl. They both can switch genders at will. The madness would never stop.
Twin? oh! that's will be fun, they can fuck each other (Selfcest for parent and incest for the child) and reproduce a lot more Natsuru-clone (To Aru Majutsu Misaka Imouto-vibe)
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By the way... you do realise Shizuku would never allow male Natsuru's semen to go anywhere except inside Shizuku sama herself ?
Yeah! Shizuku will be very angry if he waste even one drop of that LOVE apple juice if not inside her womb. She'll torture Natsuru if Natsuru pour it to other girl than her. But to find Natsuru pregnant because her own seed...may be Shizuku will want that child for her new toys
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Old 2009-12-21, 21:53   Link #2213
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If you only focus on Kaede words in Ep.11 ... gives the feeling that there might be a Sec. Season but once you remember the rest of the episode ( with the dolls singing ... and the glowing thingy ... ) ... lets just say that is hard to take those words in a serious way

Oh yeah i almost forgot my comment for Ep.12 -> "......"
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Old 2009-12-21, 22:22   Link #2214
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I see.

You do realise that such a child will be nothing more than a genetic duplicate of Natsuru. In other words an asexually reproduced clone.

I think the immune system of female natsuru would cause a miscarriage (same rhesus type as the parents) , but thats is beside the point.

Knowing how weird the story is it would be funny if twins were produced.

One boy, One girl. They both can switch genders at will. The madness would never stop.

By the way... you do realise Shizuku would never allow male Natsuru's semen to go anywhere except inside Shizuku sama herself ?
the world does not need another being as clueless as Natsuru. at least the good thing about him having a baby with Shizuku would be that the child would actually have a brain and be able to think.
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Old 2009-12-22, 02:13   Link #2215
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the world does not need another being as clueless as Natsuru. at least the good thing about him having a baby with Shizuku would be that the child would actually have a brain and be able to think.
AND not to mention

brain dead Dense!

god what up with protagonist theses days they are drop dead DENSE!
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Old 2009-12-22, 02:35   Link #2216
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AND not to mention

brain dead Dense!

god what up with protagonist theses days they are drop dead DENSE!
So, you prefer if they like Makoto (School days) or Saeba Ryo (City Hunter) or Tomoki (Sora no Otoshimono) or Kotaro Shindo (Shin Kotaro Makaritoru)?

That will be H and not ecchi category anymore...or at least borderline ecchi like Aki-Sora

If Natsuru didn't dense, Akane will be the 1st girl he'll ram down, then Shizuku, then Sakura,then Mikoto....
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Old 2009-12-22, 04:12   Link #2217
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So, you prefer if they like Makoto (School days) or Saeba Ryo (City Hunter) or Tomoki (Sora no Otoshimono) or Kotaro Shindo (Shin Kotaro Makaritoru)?

That will be H and not ecchi category anymore...or at least borderline ecchi like Aki-Sora

If Natsuru didn't dense, Akane will be the 1st girl he'll ram down, then Shizuku, then Sakura,then Mikoto....
Not dense doesn't mean that he should take advantage of every girls. It simple means that he should at least capable of understanding the situation. Seriously, how can you not notice that the girl has feeling for you when she kisses you (not once) and even invites you to go on a date with her.

And Aki-Sora is not borderline. It's hentai in my book.
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Old 2009-12-22, 04:38   Link #2218
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Not dense doesn't mean that he should take advantage of every girls. It simple means that he should at least capable of understanding the situation. Seriously, how can you not notice that the girl has feeling for you when she kisses you (not once) and even invites you to go on a date with her.

And Aki-Sora is not borderline. It's hentai in my book.
I agree... I hate those character types the most. I am still not sure if he ever realized their feelings for him even after ep 11.

Anyone else feels like Shizuku is the only one that is fine with a harem ending It also seems he is starting to developing feeling for her too.
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Old 2009-12-22, 04:40   Link #2219
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Not dense doesn't mean that he should take advantage of every girls. It simple means that he should at least capable of understanding the situation. Seriously, how can you not notice that the girl has feeling for you when she kisses you (not once) and even invites you to go on a date with her.
Well..if you consider your self a plain guy (Masumi Nishino state this to Natsuru) and everyone around you agreed, then suddenly the most beautiful girl in the whole school (Shizuku) kiss and invite you to a date, your 1st thought will be: "she just make fun of me" or "she want to play with my feeling" offcourse.
Shizuku need to make Natsuru confidence enough to accept the fact that he is quite interesting in her eyes (in Male form). May be Shizuku must create some "Plain Guy contest" and make Natsuru won
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And Aki-Sora is not borderline. It's hentai in my book.
Hmm...no Genital exposed, then it's not H in my book
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Old 2009-12-22, 21:48   Link #2220
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So, you prefer if they like Makoto (School days) or Saeba Ryo (City Hunter) or Tomoki (Sora no Otoshimono) or Kotaro Shindo (Shin Kotaro Makaritoru)?

That will be H and not ecchi category anymore...or at least borderline ecchi like Aki-Sora

If Natsuru didn't dense, Akane will be the 1st girl he'll ram down, then Shizuku, then Sakura,then Mikoto....
definitely wouldnt want Shizuku to be like any of them but instead instead of having the IQ of an inatimate object he should at least be able to recognise the feelings and behaviour of those around him. for example when he was a girl he had sakura hitting on him constantly but as a make she barely ever talked to him and she even said she didnt like male Natsuru. it doesnt take a degree in rocket science to figure out that she is most likely a lesbian. also he has 3 other girls who openly like him.

i would just like to see a main protagonist in a romance/harem, series who is not completely dense but in touch with his feelings as well as those around him. probably someone like Kei Kusanagi from Please Teacher.
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