2013-09-27, 17:24 | Link #9421 |
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That still doesn't explain WHY they would develop a mirage colloid stealth system in the first place. As the Rouge's intended pilot (Cagalli) isn't the type to use "underhanded" methods like stealth tech in a fight.
It comes off more as a throw it on item like Aquaman said then something Cagalli or Kira would ever use. |
2013-09-27, 18:04 | Link #9422 | |
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Also, setting a trap like she did in Africa was also an underhanded method. Cagalli is not some kind of fairy tail knight who champions honorable fights. |
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2013-09-27, 19:04 | Link #9423 | |
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EDIT: with the Strike Rogue got this great upgrade do you think the Akatsuki will get some kind of upgrade? It seems the Ootori is overall better than the Akatsuki right now, apart from the beam reflection. I'd like to see it upgraded, I love the Akatsuki.
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2013-09-27, 19:49 | Link #9424 | |
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Keep in mind that the Akatsuki's reflection technology could also be considered "underhanded". And then there's the Astray Gold Frame Amatu, which also utilizes Mirage Colloid, and is also an ORB-developed weapon. In war, you can't be held back by concepts such as chivalry. It only puts you at a disadvantage, honorable or not.
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2013-09-28, 16:41 | Link #9425 | |
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2013-09-28, 17:20 | Link #9426 |
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Akatsuki shouldn't have all those easily explodable parts hanging all over it's beam refective armor. Hit the missile launchers or the rail gun and it blows a chunk of the suit off.
Rouge can handle it because of PS, but Akatsuki doesn't have that. So better to keep its external weaponry to a minimum and rely on it being invulnerable to most beam weapons. It's not like rail guns are that useful (unless you're Kira and like having a way to non lethally deal with PS protected Gundams). Why bother with PS penetrating railguns when you've got beam cannons anyway. |
2013-09-28, 17:31 | Link #9427 | |
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And actually, the Wikia articles all used to be in Wikipedia back in the days... At some point the Wiki editors decided that it was too indepth for Wikipedia and deleted all those articles from there, and moved them all to Wikia. That's why those (fake) names are on both sites. (God I feel old)
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2013-09-28, 18:15 | Link #9428 | |
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Also, why would hitting the railgun cause that kind of structural damage? It's not terribly explosive, unlike the missile launcher. Unless it's got explosive-tipped rounds, which is a terrible, terrible idea altogether.
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2013-09-28, 20:20 | Link #9429 | |
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but skye said it pretty well
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2013-09-28, 21:49 | Link #9432 |
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Well i always found it weird that it could bounce off any beam shot but not beam sabres. it doesn't have to be impervious to beam sabres but completely useless against them... little silly. But I doubt the Akatsuki will get any kind of upgrade for the HD Remaster. Since the Rogue doesn't do much in Destiny so not a lot of new film is needed, while the Akatsuki does do stuff on earth and in space giving it new weapons/packs would require effort and this remaster has shown much of that.
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2013-09-28, 21:53 | Link #9433 |
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Eh, not really. Even if the Akatsuki is immune to the beam particles (it's killing me to say this, BTW...), that doesn't mean the reflection system is resilient against the heat of the EM field containing it.
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2013-09-28, 21:54 | Link #9434 |
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It would still cause damage to the non PS protected Akatsuki by exploding on it. And unlike a beam rifle it couldn't be tossed clear before it exploded. Akatsuki's external weapons should probably be kept a minimal to avoid risk of minor damage from being hit like that.
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2013-09-28, 21:58 | Link #9435 | |
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2013-09-28, 22:08 | Link #9436 |
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i really don't see how heat from a beam sabre would be any different from the heat off a beam shot. i mean the only scene we see the Akatsuki get hit by a beam sabre is a beam boomerang. why wouldn't beam slide off the arm? now using the Anti-Ship Sword yeah i can see why but little beam boomerangs....
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2013-09-28, 22:12 | Link #9437 |
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Because of the way the beam is utilized. The beam coating the Akatsuki uses is made of up millions of tiny mirrors whose beam reflections are calculated and redirected. The more fluid swathe of energy created by beam blades wouldn't be able to be redirected in the same manner.
EDIT: Also, the melee susceptibility has never truly been clarified--the only time it got hit was by that beam boomerang, and it struck the machine in the elbow joint, which may not have been properly protected. At no other point in the series was the Akatsuki struck with a melee beam weapon.
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2013-09-28, 22:23 | Link #9439 |
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There's not much to reflect. Since the beginning of UC, beam sabers in Gundam have been beam particles contained by an EM field. When the saber comes into contact with a physical material, the EM field is disrupted and the particles start spilling out in that specific area. That EM field still contains the vast majority of the beam, and any particles reflected away from the armor would still just go right back into the beam body.
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2013-09-28, 22:29 | Link #9440 |
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Actually, is there confirmation on this? Rewatching the episode, it seems Shinn cut the Akatsuki's shield in half with the Destiny's sword and then cut off Akatsuki's left arm at the joint with Destiny's boomerang. So they didn't really show what would happen if a beam saber had hit the Akatsuki's armor.
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