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Now that was also a completely dumb thing to do, but that's another matter.
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2021-01-28, 10:48 | Link #122 | |
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A century ago, the head of the Tybur family threw the Eldians under the bus so his family could live in comfort and glory. This is just more of the same. What really worried him was the fact that titans weren't the advantage they once were. He needed a common enemy to buy peace for Marley while the going was still good. |
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If all he wants is to kill Willy and take the War Hammer, he could attack them at other place and other time. No, the whole point of this attack is to make a show out of it. He knows he are murdering other countries' ambassadors and he doesn't care. Use the excuse of Eren doing nothing wrong all you want, but it's entirely possible to be an asshole who pisses off everyone while technically doing nothing wrong. And this is one of such cases. Quote:
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Sorry, but Paradis is the one who must reach out for them first, not the other way around.
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Also we have never seen a black guy in the walled country before.
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The emphasis on his family leads me to believe his motives weren't so selfless. He wanted to protect his family, and their happy, comfortable lives. Just like Reiner did when he breached Wall Maria. Maybe that's what Isayama's trying to say. It doesn't take a great innate evil to perpetrate the worst atrocities. Just something to lose and the wrong circumstances. Maybe I'm too cynical, but I just can't bring myself to trust a guy who says "You just found out that my family's been ruling from the shadows for a century, maintaining a lie that's seen my own people live as subhuman canon fodder or in ghettos, but all that shit that's been happening for 100 years and those more recent blunders? Totally not our fault. It was... somebody else." Last edited by Anh_Minh; 2021-01-29 at 08:58. |
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About four months? There's been numerous incidents between the two. This can't compare to an entire country going AFK for 100 hundred years. Quote:
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So, I just binged the recent three episodes and.....dayum!
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I guess whether you're on Eren's side, Marley's side or neutral can be reflected on how you view Americans killing all those Japanese civilians during those bombings. Was it a "necessary evil" according to each of you? Quote:
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2021-01-31, 16:43 | Link #134 |
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A roller coaster of emotions that delivered last week's episode.
Indeed, there are neither heroes nor villains in war; it's just us and them. Paradis returned to Marley the carnage, death, and destruction dealt on them 9 years ago, but Eren made sure this time escalating the stakes through humilliating and stealing even more from Marley: the War Hammer Titan, the slaughter of the military brass and the Tyburs. However, for every action a reaction will subsequently follow, because just as I grieved and cried for the slaughter of Shinganshina, Paradis 8 years ago back then to season one, now I did the same for Liberio, Marley today in season four. It was both unbearable and excruciating watching the citizens getting crossed in the fire, as well as tearing to both Falco and Gabi screaming their lungs out for Reiner to stand-up and save Porco. I applaud MAPPA for remaining faithful to the manga for most of the time, as well as Horiyuki-sensei for his wise choice at music to perform each of Marleys' themes. Once Zeke got nailed by Levi, then everything went downhill for Marley like a house of cards. Lastly, praise to Isayama-sensei for requesting the staff some minor changes here and there, since it is known that Isayama views the anime out of his manga as the finished, released product. |
2021-01-31, 17:44 | Link #135 |
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Well I guess I can't say this show is being overly hawkish now. They really drove it home this episode.
And here I was thinking Zeke had some ace up his sleeve considering how he went down but this was not what I expected. They should just call this Attack on Titan: Daaaaaayum Season.
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2021-01-31, 18:55 | Link #137 |
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I could have brought it up when the episode aired since I brought it up in the manga thread when the manga chapter came out but I thought I'd let anime only figure it out on their own.
Eren's mitt and ball he told Falco he got from a relative? That was the big clue he was working with Zeke.
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2021-01-31, 19:12 | Link #138 |
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There were quite a few other hints. Zeke claiming Eren wasn't his enemy and then calling out to Levi saying he was running out of time, which had Levi check his watch. Zeke crushing the rocks as much as he did is another hint as he realized during the fight back on Paradis that it makes the rocks less likely to kill anyone.
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At any rate the recent episode finally made clear that the recent attack was orchestrated by Eren and Zeke and that the Paradis government has nothing to do with that decision. Their hand was forced and they had to attack in order to avoid losing the founding titan power, but they would have never done that otherwise.
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