(CR) Rokka no Yuusha

[Botan_TM]

So with 1000th post I approve this episode.

Tgurnau voice was... odd, but his is odd so it's a good choice I think.

[Zefyris]

Originally Posted by PreSage

Also, if Nashetanya suspects Hans to be the culprit, then where in the world is she going to find clues to prove he is and prove Adlet isn't? Did she think the clues lie somewhere in the forest like animal droppings?

If she was just randomly searching she wouldn't need to actually tell goldof anything. Just walk and look for it along the way. If goldof is surprised at NAshetania looking in the bushes and stuff, she just needs to say that she's searching for traces of Adlet (like, blood stains since he was wounded). Yet she didn't do that. What she's basically saying to goldof is basically "let's not randomly walk to search for adlet and go somewhere instead to search for clues about Hans". Or else there's no point, right? If she says that she probably has a precise idea.

Originally Posted by AC-Phoenix

How the heck could she NOT hear that someone was fighting at the temple with those bunny ears?

Also yes, this isn't Gate episode 7, this is RnY episode 7 (funny how those two series at the same episode had the exact contrary happening lol). There is no real bunny girl with superior hearing here, that's a decoration xD

Also, even goldof wasn't sure it seems, so it means they're fairly far away from the temple already. Chamo is probably closer and she shows no reaction so far.
Who do you think is more perceptive of distinctive sounds of a battlefield, a knight or a princess?
Or maybe she heard. And just saved Adlet's ass by not letting goldof return. You know, since she wants to prove adlet as innocent before he dies. Maybe that would be logical to do .

[p-kun]

It appears to me that Nashetania is trying to get Goldoff away from the temple, to make it easier for Adlet to collect his belongings and perhaps confront Hans. She's just using "looking for proof" as an excuse.

[SeijiSensei]

It seems to me that if she's going to wear such a stupid piece of "armor" as bunny ears, they should at least serve a purpose like, say, enhancing her hearing. Then again, there are few parts of Nachetanya's "armor" that make sense. She's more covered than the Bikini Warriors, but no less exposed to danger. Flamie doesn't sport much in the way of physical protection either. That long coat reminds me of marksman Irvine Kinneas in Final Fantasy VIII.

This show certainly has long stretches of dialogue which I think Passione! is handling pretty well. I was totally involved in the conversation between Adlet and Flamie.

Sawashiro and Aoi have a long history extending back to their impressive performances in Kurenai, where Sawashiro voiced the male lead Kurenai Shinkarou and Aoi voiced the female lead, seven-year-old Kuhouin Murasaki. Sawashiro became the senpai for the aspiring young actress, and the two have remained close since. Sawashiro has voiced a number of boys in her career, including young Mutta in Uchuu Kyoudai, where she also plays the main female character Serika, and, I just discovered, young Chiaki Shinichi in Nodame Cantabile.

[Iron Maw]

Originally Posted by PreSage

After this episode, Fremy, Adlet and Hans are officially off my suspects list.

Thinking about it now...all of the others have been called out as possible suspects except Goldof and Nashetanya...I know none of them have voiced directly whether Nashetanya is a suspect but I can't recall whether Goldof was ever suspected or not (I don't recall anyone calling him on it).

I wonder why none of them even question whether Goldof or Nashetanya may be the 7th. I just find that they are all too protective of Nashetanya - like how Maura told Goldof to specifically protect her. She may be a princess but she's supposedly one of the 6th, so that social ranking is off right now, or should be.

The is no lead that would cause others to question those two over anyone else. Adlet and Fremy are the most suspicious in the group right now due former's actions at barrier and the laters history as (and the fact she is half-Fiend). Everyone else is equally as questionable. It's not like Hans, Mora or Chamo has been anymore scrutinized either.

Originally Posted by SeijiSensei

It seems to me that if she's going to wear such a stupid piece of "armor" as bunny ears, they should at least serve a purpose like, say, enhancing her hearing. Then again, there are few parts of Nachetanya's "armor" that make sense. She's more covered than the Bikini Warriors, but no less exposed to danger.

The Piena royal family a lot like it's military are known for wearing animal motifs and decorations. It's a big cultural thing for them, even Goldof has ram on his helm. Unfortunately the anime left this tidbit out. Plus in Nashetania's case due to her climate and her battle specialization she prefers light equipment that let's her move around.

[Zefyris]

Originally Posted by SeijiSensei

It seems to me that if she's going to wear such a stupid piece of "armor" as bunny ears, they should at least serve a purpose like, say, enhancing her hearing. Then again, there are few parts of Nachetanya's "armor" that make sense. She's more covered than the Bikini Warriors, but no less exposed to danger. Flamie doesn't sport much in the way of physical protection either. That long coat reminds me of marksman Irvine Kinneas in Final Fantasy VIII.

This show certainly has long stretches of dialogue which I think Passion! is handling pretty well. I was totally involved in the conversation between Adlet and Flamie.

And so since Chamo wear a frog costume, that costume should make her able to jump high like a frog, and the sheep horns on goldof's helmet gives him a... what? damage bonus while charging if it ends with a headbut? And Hans's fake cat tail should give him better balance with acrobatics maybe? Why only Nashetania's animal decoration should have magical properties? Do you dislike rabbits? Is that so? So you dislike rabbits? xD
Anyway, let's be serious 2 seconds. This isn't some hack and slash where the heroes' piece of armor give magical stats boosts here. ^^"
Nashetania is more of a mage than a warrior. Seeing a mage in full plate... isn't impossible but that's quite a rare sight. Mora isn't in armor either, nor is chamo. I don't think their clothes are giving them more protection against hug beast's claws than Nashetania has with her armour.

[Anh_Minh]

Originally Posted by Iron Maw

The is no lead that would cause others to question those two over anyone else. Adlet and Fremy are the most suspicious in the group right now due former's actions at barrier and the laters history as (and the fact she is half-Fiend). Everyone else is equally as questionable. It's not like Hans, Mora or Chamo has been anymore scrutinized either.

Chamo is a bit more suspect since she was alone when the barrier went up.

Originally Posted by Zefyris

And so since Chamo wear a frog costume, that costume should make her able to jump high like a frog, and the sheep horns on goldof's helmet gives him a... what? damage bonus while charging if it ends with a headbut? And Hans's fake cat tail should give him better balance with acrobatics maybe? Why only Nashetania's animal decoration should have magical properties? Do you dislike rabbits? Is that so? So you dislike rabbits? xD
Anyway, let's be serious 2 seconds. This isn't some hack and slash where the heroes' piece of armor give magical stats boosts here. ^^"
Nashetania is more of a mage than a warrior. Seeing a mage in full plate... isn't impossible but that's quite a rare sight. Mora isn't in armor either, nor is chamo. I don't think their clothes are giving them more protection against hug beast's claws than Nashetania has with her armour.

Not that I care, but they do give them more protection against the casual scratches of travelling in he wild and generally roughing it up.

[Zefyris]

Originally Posted by Anh_Minh

Chamo is a bit more suspect since she was alone when the barrier went up.


Not that I care, but they do give them more protection against the casual scratches of travelling in he wild and generally roughing it up.

True. That armour is probably the one she was wearing for tournament and such, so this logically didn't take in account anything of the sort. Not sure thhe princess had a lot of wears to protect her when running in forest and climbing mountains. That may be a direct consequences of leaving the palace with adlet without waiting there...

[Iron Maw]

Originally Posted by Anh_Minh

Chamo is a bit more suspect since she was alone when the barrier went up.

Right, but since she came to the temple after barrier was active she has wiggle room for doubt.

[Random Wanderer]

Originally Posted by Zefyris

If she was just randomly searching she wouldn't need to actually tell goldof anything. Just walk and look for it along the way. If goldof is surprised at NAshetania looking in the bushes and stuff, she just needs to say that she's searching for traces of Adlet (like, blood stains since he was wounded). Yet she didn't do that. What she's basically saying to goldof is basically "let's not randomly walk to search for adlet and go somewhere instead to search for clues about Hans". Or else there's no point, right? If she says that she probably has a precise idea.

What's the point of them even searching outside the temple in the first place? Didn't Hans and Adlet effectively prove that trying to go anywhere in the fog, no matter how you try to make certain of your path, will just cause you to go in a twisty nightmarish course that eventually leads you back where you started, unless you're heading back to the temple itself?

[Iron Maw]

The Phantasmal Barrier covers more range then just the temple. You will only get turned around if you go towards the barrier's edge.

[LKK]

Originally Posted by SeijiSensei

It seems to me that if she's going to wear such a stupid piece of "armor" as bunny ears, they should at least serve a purpose like, say, enhancing her hearing.

I think Nachetanya's "bunny ears" are very in keeping with the native South American styling that permeates the series' design elements. Warriors from those cultures often wear clothing that represent animals under the belief that wearing such clothing will give the person some of the animal's powers.

As for the bunny ears aspect of her armor... have you noticed her arm and leg guards? The ones that end in claws? Those claws aren't from any bunnies I'm familiar with. I doubt her ears are from any bunnies I know either.

[SeijiSensei]

Boy, everyone is very touchy here. I just tried to make a joke about the irony that the character with bunny ears can't hear the commotion in the temple, and that the costumer likes to design fan-servicey clothes for Nachetanya and Flamie, and I get barraged from all sides. I guess I should have learned something from the pages and pages of argument that I skipped over to get to here. You may all return to your regularly scheduled thread.

[HandofFate]

Maybe I'm imagining it, or if I was also just fooled by her having bunny ear armor.
But I thought Nachetanya was shown to have good hearing. But can't say it with confidence..heh.

[Iron Maw]

Originally Posted by SeijiSensei

Boy, everyone is very touchy here. I just tried to make a joke about the irony that the character with bunny ears can't hear the commotion in the temple, and that the costumer likes to design fan-servicey clothes for Nachetanya and Flamie, and I get barraged from all sides. I guess I should have learned something from the pages and pages of argument that I skipped over to get to here. You may all return to your regularly scheduled thread.

Eh, I don't feel like anyone was attacking you or anything, but you're just not the first to comment about this. I'm just saying that's always been a decorative piece, fanservicey or not and does have context in the setting. I mean we have seen her without in episode one so we know it's fake.

[Zefyris]

Originally Posted by SeijiSensei

Boy, everyone is very touchy here. I just tried to make a joke about the irony that the character with bunny ears can't hear the commotion in the temple, and that the costumer likes to design fan-servicey clothes for Nachetanya and Flamie, and I get barraged from all sides. I guess I should have learned something from the pages and pages of argument that I skipped over to get to here. You may all return to your regularly scheduled thread.

I don't think anyone was touchy here.

[Anh_Minh]

Originally Posted by LKK

I think Nachetanya's "bunny ears" are very in keeping with the native South American styling that permeates the series' design elements. Warriors from those cultures often wear clothing that represent animals under the belief that wearing such clothing will give the person some of the animal's powers.

As for the bunny ears aspect of her armor... have you noticed her arm and leg guards? The ones that end in claws? Those claws aren't from any bunnies I'm familiar with. I doubt her ears are from any bunnies I know either.

A Killer Rabbit of Caerbannog, maybe?

[Iron Maw]

I'm still a bit bummed they went with CG for Tgurneu after tease in the OP of him being hand-drawn.




I figure they probably went with this because he would stick out too much compared to the other fiends in an unintentional way (and hard as hell to animate), but I still wish I hadn't got my hopes up... :/

EDIT: LN art for comparison:

[Zefyris]

Well considering how inconsistent are the drawings even for human characters in this series lately, at least 3d cgi betray no one. It remains the same all the time. So there's good thing about it too.

[Iron Maw]

TBF, the only works won't find that happening much (if not at all), is from ufotable or Sunrise.