2013-03-14, 13:20 | Link #32026 |
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Join Date: Apr 2010
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b-b-b-but I've only started reading through Umineko again! And I don't think I've even solved it half-way! The game that I can never win is that dream prospect for me, as a gamer, but in such a case I would only ever want or need one!
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2013-03-14, 13:58 | Link #32027 | |
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Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Brazil
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2013-03-14, 21:21 | Link #32028 |
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Just another minor thing:
“なく頃に”のプロット作り、もっかい練り直すぜ!! would be closer to "Let's go and revise the plot structure of "When they cry" once again!!" Nerinaosu means to work something over and make it better, so this doesn't immediately imply a NEW When they Cry, just that Mr.07 is apparently reworking some of the elements of that universe again. Last time it brought us witches, let's see what it gives us this time. |
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So yeah, while it seems likely, I wouldn't hold my breath until he says something more concrete. |
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2013-03-15, 12:32 | Link #32032 | |
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Btw. has anybody else already read how the scene of Battler's realization in the ???? Part of EP5 turned out in the manga? Didn't have the time or money to get it till now. I kind of liked it how they inserted a young Battler making the promise to "Beatrice" back then, it makes the whole scene a little bit clearer about what he actually realized when he said that "The goal wasn't down in Hell, but at the summit of mount purgatory where the eternal maiden Beatrice awaits." And I think I finally understand what the hell the hint in that scene was and feel pretty dumb. Battler awakens and finds Beatrice having been reduced to a pile of ashes with only the tattered remains of a golden butterfly remaining on top, of which he can take one wing and hold it to his heart. So that golden butterfly was apparently a hint towards the damn broach the whole time. |
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2013-03-16, 05:16 | Link #32034 | |
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I don't know where I stand on that, as I see Umineko as the more mature work compared to Higurashi and actually do prefer it, but I have to agree that it is always risky to create a too grand universe. I wouldn't mind him going on with the concept, but I also fear that it might turn out repetitive if he doesn't give it a completely new twist this time around. |
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2013-03-16, 08:18 | Link #32035 |
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Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Rokkenjima
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Was reading EP2. It feels so strange that Gohda is defending Shannon so strongly, when they try to lie that 'Kanon' attacked and 'killed' Kumasawa and Nanjo. Gohda, along with Genji and Rosa are accomplices. Could Yasu threatened them with the bomb? That would probably make sense. But still, Gohda tried to defend Shannon too hard, unless of course he did it to win over her heart. Come to think of it, Gohda does that a lot with the siblings. Oh this might make sense.
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2013-03-17, 12:22 | Link #32036 |
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It is not like witches were not hinted at in higurashi. they were just never explicitly called witches. I mean Rika does actually seem like a witch to me.
So for umineko it's a question of what you thing was hinted at but was not really dived into. |
2013-03-18, 02:14 | Link #32037 |
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Well, in Saikoroshi-hen, at least the VN, the dimension hopping part of Rika, Frederica Bernkastel, was actually called a witch. So in a way he only took that concept a step further by creating the whole alcove of witches in Umineko. Still at certain points it seems a little strained.
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2013-03-18, 16:35 | Link #32038 |
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Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: United States
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Some things about the whole
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So, my idea for putting the pieces together goes something like this... Spoiler for My theory about Prime:
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2013-03-19, 23:42 | Link #32040 | |
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I agree with the rest though. |
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