2010-12-24, 21:38 | Link #20321 | |
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There's a plausible reason for Erika to kill the FT victims. |
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2010-12-24, 21:40 | Link #20322 |
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My why done it for Jessica is basically the same thing as Nats.
Kinzo is not a great dude. The only way he got that gold is because no one else on the island lived to talk about it. He also slept with his daughter. And there's rumors about him having inappropriate conduct with the kids from the orphanage. I don't think its much of a stretch to imagine him pressing himself on someone else. Though I much preferred the Ep 7 reveal. --- Murder 1 would be Yasu setting up the island so that Murder 2 is bound to happen. However, what's disappointing is she didn't even need to do that much, the siblings would do it themselves if they ever find the gold and some guns. --- Something else interesting and my favorite part of Ep 7 alluded to in Ep 6, is that the last part of the epitaph is left unexplained. The first part is about identifying the key word, Qilian. It's an identity question. The second part is about the process itself. It's the "how" of the epitaph. The final part, which none of the characters have answered, is what the bit at the end means. Does that part really serve no purpose? None of the last 5 lines are ever explained or looked at. Erika or Bern says that she doesn't understand the last part in Episode 6. What I think, is that the final bit of the Epitaph is going to be important in Ep8. My version of Ep8 would basically be a cry-fest where the family reconciles, where all of the truth comes out, and everyone lives. We'll see what happens. Can't wait. |
2010-12-24, 21:41 | Link #20323 | |
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2010-12-24, 21:46 | Link #20324 | ||
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2010-12-24, 21:50 | Link #20325 |
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Erika is really obviously a write-in who wasn't there. The best explanation I have is that she's an alternate personality for Jessica. However, with the extreme silly antics Erika gets up to, I wouldn't take her existence seriously.
She's climbing up yo window and sealing your people up, Tryin to tape em so ya'll need to Hide yo kids, hide yo wives, hide yo husbands too, Because Erika is taping e'rybody out here. Granted, she was a blast of fresh air the series needed and her absence was dearly felt in Ep 7. --- George goes unexamined a lot. But I don't really see a great motive for him. Unless he thinks he's about to get ditched for Battler, which is hinted at a lot. I also liked that Jessica's tarot is moon. --- As for the trick to hide Jessica's gun. Desk drawer, string, recoil knocks revolver in. I think its mentioned she's in a corner of a room near a desk, or something like that. But basically, knocking the gun into any sort of hidden or out of view spot (like under a bed) might be a good call. |
2010-12-24, 21:54 | Link #20326 | |
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I think EVANGELION is a more probable explanation for this. Actually no. There isn't an Italian name of that sort. The animal's name in Italian is "Leone". Leone can be in fact both a first name and a last name (Sergio Leone anyone?), but in katakana it would be: LE-O-NE, quite different from LI-O-N.
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2010-12-24, 22:04 | Link #20330 |
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That bit is lost in the translation. Battler's line has a person counter attached to the number, so you can either read it as "it's seventeen people" or possibly "you're the seventeenth person". Although I'm hesitant to say whether the second interpretation works in Japanese since it wasn't an ordinal number like in Erika's line. Witch Hunt might have left it ambiguous for that reason, now that I think of it.
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2010-12-24, 22:15 | Link #20331 | |
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Still, she's an awesome piece and makes the game 20x nuttier. Her and Eva-BEATRICE are both really fun. Zepar and Furfur reaally annoy me. |
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2010-12-24, 22:19 | Link #20332 |
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Also aware of the EVANGELION thing, but that wont explain why the servants and main persona names would also allude to Jesus. As to which is more probable, names seem to have meanings in some cases, Maria created her fantasy based on her name. What if Yasu, Sayo, etc did the same?
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2010-12-24, 23:06 | Link #20333 | |
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So how should I interpret it? "The number of people on the island is 17"? |
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2010-12-24, 23:09 | Link #20334 |
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That's exactly what Chronotrig said he did IIRC. Remember that little drama they had with the GameFAQ's translators during the episode 6 translations? They made up later, but part of the misunderstanding was how he had that line translated in the script at the time. But he intended to edit that red later I beleive.
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See? It's easy. And don't be stupid, the episode has plenty of relevancy, because it gives us new and useful information.
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2010-12-24, 23:55 | Link #20336 | ||
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Yasu is clearly a reference to a trope derived from some NES games, a sort of in joke. If the name of the original character of the games was Maru then now we would be all talking about this Maru. There is no evidence that Ryuukishi actually wanted Yasu to be a reference to Jesus. Yoshiya is a little more probable, but I still have doubts. What was the purpose in comparing Kanon to Jesus? It's a bit too much to say he's like Jesus just because he sacrificed himself for a single person. Quote:
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2010-12-25, 04:13 | Link #20340 |
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What do you guys think Ryukishi07 will write about after Umineko?
What do you guys think Ryukishi07 will write about after Umineko?
Ryukishi07 has written 2 stories so far in his When They Cry series: There is Higurashi, which has Eastern motifs such as tataris, ancient japanese curses and other distinctly japanese occult types of things. In contrast, Umineko has a more Western feel to it; We mostly see references to western literature such as Dante's Divine Comedy and Agatha Christie novels and various western occult figures. After Umineko no naku koro ni, I predict that he'll go with one of the two remaining cardinal directions: Northern and Southern. By southern, I mean that the next work will be more influenced by cultures of the southern hemisphere, which includes African Voodoo, South American Santa Muerte, or whatever occult figures that Australian Aboriginals believe in. If he goes with the Northern cardinal direction, he'll probably just write something involving Santa Claus. Or Ryukishi07 could also possibly abandon cardinal directions and go with up/down. He could write something sorta like a hard sci-fi murder mystery in an orbital space station (such as the International Space Station) UP above earth. Or write about the legends of the mole people DOWN below. Thinking about all the possible names for the future works is kinda fun too. When penguins cry: Pengun no naku koro ni ペンギンのなく頃に When kangaroos cry: Kangaruu no naku koro ni カンガルーのなく頃に When they cry in space: Uchu ni kikoenai no naku koro ni 宇宙に聞こえないのなく頃に Last edited by ivan_mccormik; 2010-12-25 at 04:23. Reason: appended stuff below |
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