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Old 2014-05-05, 10:51   Link #341
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Maybe they will do a flash back type thing so we can see the escape.
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Old 2014-05-05, 14:38   Link #342
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I don't remember this being mentioned in the source material. I suspect that it is more of a convenient plot hole that we weren't supposed to notice or think about, otherwise there would be no girls after a day and a half, and no story to tell.

Similarly, why would that other girl still have the alien embryo and cellular device on her person (never mind where did she even get them)? Wouldn't it be more likely that they would all have been stripped, searched, and herded into the transports nude like cattle to the slaughter?
From the singular flashback, and later info:
- the test subject girls "B" list were being transported from one JSDF base to another
- there were doctors and scientists with clearance also being transported
- the "B" girls were slated for destruction, as their special powers were subpar
- one of these doctors or scientists was a traitor, Akane, who handed Neko Kuroha a package with the alien embryo and smartphone
- Akane died, crushed under one of the transports
- we were told 27 girls escaped
- somehow each of the girls split up into singles or pairs, each with enough death suppression pills for 2 weeks
- most test subject girls died from lack of pills or being recaptured days later

One full month of death suppression pills for each test subject girl alone would have been 810 pills, which is more than a few 150-pill or 300-pill bottles. So the transport would have been prepared to make an emergency stop somewhere not their final destination (and the FINAL final destination for all of the "B" girls). Hence more pills than usual being transported with the girls. One week of pills is 5.6 per girl.

Either the test subject girls were released by Akane, or someone helped Akane, or there was a terrific car accident to make all the transports crash. Maybe one of the girls used her powers, once released. Maybe it was accidental. But the result is several transports reduced to slag, all the scientists and drivers dead, and the test subject girls escaped to start our timeline of events.
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Old 2014-05-05, 15:00   Link #343
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Oh Kotori... XD I kind of imagined her sounding more "matter of fact" when she demonstrates her powers and hung up immediately, not slightly apologetic. "These are my powers. Cool right!*__*" -hangs up- "I hang up after one use ^_^" -"So uuuselesss." That scene cracked me up in the manga, but wasn't as funny animated.

Oh well!
I don't remember Kuroha blubbering out "magic!" After she blows up that table, but if she did do that in the manga, then well.. One stupid point for her.
That said, the girls are mostly pretty careless, bordering on stupid in the eyes of a worldly viewer, but it needs to be remembered that they have very little to no life experience. What is learned common sense to us, like hiding your harnest or how to go be careful are things they never had a chance to learn- they were in a lab all of their lives, they don't have any survival skills or much of an understanding of these things. This group is just lucky- including having found a sensible person to help them.

Of course some of it is probably due to stupid writing. But I can excuse a lot of instances of the girls being stupid based on the above.
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Old 2014-05-05, 23:28   Link #344
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I was gonna quit this show, but now Kotori showed up and now showing interest.
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Old 2014-05-06, 02:21   Link #345
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Oh Kotori... XD I kind of imagined her sounding more "matter of fact" when she demonstrates her powers and hung up immediately, not slightly apologetic. "These are my powers. Cool right!*__*" -hangs up- "I hang up after one use ^_^" -"So uuuselesss." That scene cracked me up in the manga, but wasn't as funny animated.
Is that power useless? I think it is quite useful and deadly. If, say, Kotori puts herself in a dangerous position - jump off a building for example, then switch places with someone, that someone is going to die really quickly.
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Old 2014-05-06, 04:21   Link #346
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Is that power useless? I think it is quite useful and deadly. If, say, Kotori puts herself in a dangerous position - jump off a building for example, then switch places with someone, that someone is going to die really quickly.
No, I was referring to the cast's reaction when she demonstrated it, which was clearly intended as a joke. The delivery kind of fell flat in the anime though.

It's quite obvious that it's not actually useless in practice.
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Old 2014-05-06, 16:45   Link #347
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hopefull MC will not be useless and somehow plant the alien egg into himself to gain super power or atleast use it to fix the pill dependant thing

also Kana is faking it? dam parasite she better have a good reason and not somthing like she like Neko and want her attention and stay together
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Old 2014-05-07, 08:22   Link #348
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After all that build-up, it's disappointing the AA+ witch Kikako is only able to shoot an energy ball thingy. Really? That's it? It looks powerful, but it's not as if that much firepower is required. Conventional small arms could do the same job. In episode 1, we saw a witch and her friend captured in a convoy of JSDF vehicles. It seems the bad guys are forgetting they can simply send out soldiers, but instead the bad guys are resorting to villian-of-the-week witches.

When Kikako walks around blasting her surroundings, who is going to catch all those civilians witnessing her destruction? Didn't the anime say witnesses have to be killed as well? With that amount of blasting going around, surely there would be a whole bunch of witnesses. Yeah, Kikako just shot an energy blast through the building Shino is hiding in and hit a mountain. And there's a whole bunch of buildings at the foot of that mountain! Is the anime trying to tell the viewers that the townsfolk are used to random explosions in their neighborhood?
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Old 2014-05-07, 09:06   Link #349
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They just push the blame of the explosions to the sentai team that happens every week.
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Old 2014-05-07, 11:04   Link #350
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Kikako's attack is impressively powerful, and I can see why it would freak people out a bit. But if that's her only power, the tactics for defeating her is very straightforward.

Hint: I'm pretty confident that two NFL players (ideally one being a Running Back or a Wide Receiver) could defeat Kikako. Again, assuming that's her only power/special ability.
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Old 2014-05-07, 21:54   Link #351
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Kikako's attack is impressively powerful, and I can see why it would freak people out a bit. But if that's her only power, the tactics for defeating her is very straightforward.

Hint: I'm pretty confident that two NFL players (ideally one being a Running Back or a Wide Receiver) could defeat Kikako. Again, assuming that's her only power/special ability.
I don't see two NFL players having a chance. She can just swap place with someone from far distance. Because her ability has many possibilities, it is limited to one time use. She would hang up just once. So, more people mean they have more chance to corner her.

So, the AA+ magic user is another girl. It's sad that Kuroneko has to witness her friend's death, even Kuroneko wants to save her friend.
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Old 2014-05-07, 21:59   Link #352
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I don't see two NFL players having a chance. She can just swap place with someone from far distance. Because her ability has many possibilities, it is limited to one time use. She would hang up just once. So, more people mean they have more chance to corner her.
You're getting the names mixed up. Kikako is the laser-girl with shark teeth who slowly shambles forward in a straight line like an old-school zombie and seems to shoot once every couple of minutes.
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Old 2014-05-08, 03:14   Link #353
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hahaha... Kotori really stirred up this show....
She and Kazumi would be interesting characters that could cheer up the setting of this show (since Kuroha and Kana are too depressing to be watched)

anyway, I just can't believe how clumsy are all of them.. to think Kana would start to talk and state her condition in front of Kotori, Kuroha said "magic" word, and Kotori would be clumsy enough to show her harness.... Kazumi really is the only one who reliable to Murakami so far

Kikako is scary.... thanks god that so far all the "bad" magicians are ugly girls.... too bad that they killed so many adorable girls...

I'm expecting Kuroneko and Murakami to be the only one who survived in the end of the series
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Old 2014-05-09, 03:16   Link #354
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I guess someone is gonna compare this show to Okamoto's first work. I rememer someone mentioned the backstory of that show. It was said Okamot was broke. He could not buy many stuffs. Maybe it was why he wrote the tragic story. The sale of Elfin Lied enabled him to buy IPod or some music player. The anime sale of Elfin Lied flopped, but it was very famous. I think his other work(collaboration with another mangaka) is more fun to read. I think the story he really wanted to make is Nononono. Again, the backstory of Olymic Athletes is boring. Even he added many comedic element, the manga was slashed in the midway(It still the longest running manga in his career so far).

In comparison, Gokukoku no Brynhildr is more light hearted. So far, the current mystery and suspense is played right. My interpretation of their suppression pill is preventing these test subjects from explosion. They started bleed when the pill's effect worn out. It is as they are living in the outer space. The lack of external pressure force will injured them.
Is to be expected from me, since like most fans Elfen Lied made an impression upon me, and couldn't help myself to start comparing Brynhildr with the former being that both stories are written by Okamoto-sensei.

As you previously posted, Brynhildr is way more lighthearted, nonetheless, there is this aura of doom felt lurking from episode to episode, and the third episode built it up nicely up to climax at the end of that episode which closes in a cliffhanger.
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Old 2014-05-09, 10:28   Link #356
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Heres what i think kuroneko was still alive when she was brought over to the lab.she still has fragments of her memorys from when she was a child . They killed her and put that alien inside her and whats controlling her now is the alien. What we are seeing is the aliens personality not kuronekos however she has memory fragments of her childhood. The other girls are different they were dead bodies given for the lab. I think they were lied to about that 3rd button and those pills were a safety net to prevent something awful from happening.
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Old 2014-05-09, 10:48   Link #357
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Kikako's attack is impressively powerful, and I can see why it would freak people out a bit. But if that's her only power, the tactics for defeating her is very straightforward.

Hint: I'm pretty confident that two NFL players (ideally one being a Running Back or a Wide Receiver) could defeat Kikako. Again, assuming that's her only power/special ability.
That's kind of the problem with these super-powered shows where the powers are treated as godlike... but they aren't, really. Regular, real world tactics would do the job much better. The future predicting thing makes success difficult, but honestly, it'd be easier to send in a bunch of soldiers and overcome the future prediction than sending in mouth cannon girl.

Then again, this show isn't even attempting to be realistic or take itself all that seriously, so whatever.
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Old 2014-05-09, 11:01   Link #358
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If you called in the JSDF they might want a "favor" later on. By tracking down the escapees "in-house", you minimize the payoffs and favors. Even collateral damage is better than direct involvement from others.
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Old 2014-05-09, 11:03   Link #359
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Heres what i think kuroneko was still alive when she was brought over to the lab.she still has fragments of her memorys from when she was a child . They killed her and put that alien inside her and whats controlling her now is the alien. What we are seeing is the aliens personality not kuronekos however she has memory fragments of her childhood. The other girls are different they were dead bodies given for the lab. I think they were lied to about that 3rd button and those pills were a safety net to prevent something awful from happening.
I just realised something... Little Kuroneko said she had already seen an alien. Assuming she wasn't lying and that's true.. If she came into contact with those aliens before she ever came to the lab, was she even fully human before the accident?
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Old 2014-05-09, 12:55   Link #360
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Heres how i see it theres 2 different entities existing in the same body the alien and kuronekos.im not sure what full story about kuroneko seeing the aliens i would say she is still human. But whats important to understand the lab doesnt care about the girls it whats inside them thats important. Im assuming that 3rd button unlocks abilities and the witches were lied to. However the witches like kana kazumi kotori they were dead bodies given to them. The cute girl aspect is used to hide what they really are.
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