GATE - Light Novel Discussion

[Vallen Chaos Valiant]

Originally Posted by DragonXX

I find that the Gods did this all just to get new soul, lead me wanting to know where do Soul come from in GATE which make me want to know if there a God for Earth and if this could make them in rage by other Gods stealing soul if it get to a point.

Well, did anyone saw immortal apostles running around recently? Or actual prayers being heard? Or, even more so, the fact that Gate Gods PREVENT natural disasters from happening?

What made you think Earth has any actual gods that does anything? Because Gate gods certainly kept themselves busy. If Earth has a god, it is a useless and lazy one, or an evil and vindictive one. Either way it doesn't matter because Gate gods are just better.

[endarion88]

Originally Posted by Vallen Chaos Valiant

Well, did anyone saw immortal apostles running around recently? Or actual prayers being heard? Or, even more so, the fact that Gate Gods PREVENT natural disasters from happening?

What made you think Earth has any actual gods that does anything? Because Gate gods certainly kept themselves busy. If Earth has a god, it is a useless and lazy one, or an evil and vindictive one. Either way it doesn't matter because Gate gods are just better.

but but...thor protect us from the ice giants! have you ever seen an ice giant around? mean he's doing his job allright!

[aohige]

Originally Posted by Vallen Chaos Valiant

Well, did anyone saw immortal apostles running around recently? Or actual prayers being heard? Or, even more so, the fact that Gate Gods PREVENT natural disasters from happening?

What made you think Earth has any actual gods that does anything? Because Gate gods certainly kept themselves busy. If Earth has a god, it is a useless and lazy one, or an evil and vindictive one. Either way it doesn't matter because Gate gods are just better.

Well, the fact that Gate world gods proving "humans DO indeed have souls" can implicate a good possibility that some kind of deity existing on Gate's Earth as well. The fact magic users can use their spells on Earth side of the Gate just fine is also another hint.

I don't think the God or gods of Earth necessary have to be visibly active on the field, especially if souls are harvest-able resources. We seem to be doing just fine procreating and killing each other by the droves.
The Gate gods have agenda to control the speed of advancement of their mortals, but we don't necessary know the agenda of god/gods of Earth, if they exist.

They may be apathetic instead of malevolent.

And sure, laziness could be a valid reason.
An ant living in the yard of Mr Johnson who mows his lawn every week may be aware of his existence, but an ant living in the backyard of Mr Jackson who never tenders to his yard and lets weed grow wild may never know his world has a human master.

[Darkbacon]

Originally Posted by endarion88

but but...thor protect us from the ice giants! have you ever seen an ice giant around? mean he's doing his job allright!

Odin promised that there would be no more Ice Giants silly! Poor Ymir

[quigonkenny]

Originally Posted by aohige

They may be apathetic instead of malevolent.

I prefer "laissez-faire", but I can see how it might be seen as apathetic. One interpretation of the Garden of Eden is that Adam and Eve eating the fruit from the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil was them choosing free will over a utopian God-managed existence, and as a result, He lets us have that free will, warts and all.

[Brother Coa]

All this talk about gods made me wonder....
Is there any confirmation about Earth gods in novel at all?
Maybe it is modeled like 40k Emperor - a single and powerful deity who hides among Humans and watch over them. Protecting them from annihilation until they grow and mature.
Because if such deity exists than gate gods would be like Chaos Gods. xD
Since we already have Dorn in the gate that kind of revelation would be hilarious. xD

[aohige]

Originally Posted by Brother Coa

All this talk about gods made me wonder....
Is there any confirmation about Earth gods in novel at all?
Maybe it is modeled like 40k Emperor - a single and powerful deity who hides among Humans and watch over them. Protecting them from annihilation until they grow and mature.
Because if such deity exists than gate gods would be like Chaos Gods. xD
Since we already have Dorn in the gate that kind of revelation would be hilarious. xD

Nope, only time it's brought up is how the Abrahamic religious organizations and nations on Earth refusing to call the Gate gods and demi-gods "gods", while polytheistic culture like Japan has no problem.

(When you have eight million gods, adding a few more just ain't a big deal. )

[FRS]

I may have missed it but is the situation of souls post death explained in details or is it vague like if you died in battle you soul will be harvest by Emroy ?

[aohige]

The details of Emroy's afterlife world is unknown.
Hardy's afterlife we have some idea about, from her conversation with Rory.

Spoiler:

The souls Hardy harvest are kept in perpetual happiness.
Rory personally does not like it though, she feels like it's the same happiness as being high on drugs.

My guess of Emroy's realm is Valhalla, where warriors engage in eternal battles.

[FRS]

Thanks for the answers Aohige

[Vash1306]

I'm sure this has been asked before. But how much of the light novel was adapted in the first season. And how much will the second season adapt? How much has the manga adapted?

[aohige]

Originally Posted by Vash1306

I'm sure this has been asked before. But how much of the light novel was adapted in the first season. And how much will the second season adapt? How much has the manga adapted?

Anime episode 1-11 = Book 1 (book 1 & 2 of LN edition)
Anime episode 12-18 = Book 2 (book 3 & 4 of LN edition)
Anime episode 19-24 = Book 3 (book 5 & 6 of LN edition)

Manga = currently at the start of book 3, plus it just finished covering half of gaiden+ which chronologically takes place here. (the latter half of Gaiden+ is when Pina was a child, so they probably won't cover it in the manga)

By next month this time, the anime will be caught up with the manga.
And by the end of this season it'll be nearly a whole book ahead of the manga.

[RDNexus]

Erm... How do you know the adaption is gonna cover all of those Books/LNs? Wild guess or some sort of intel?
There's a Manga of sorts of when Pina was a child/teen. May it be related to that Gaiden+ story part?

[Village Idiot]

You can kind of tell based on where the anime is at atm.

Its episode 2 and they've just finished LN#3.

[RDNexus]

If the pacing really goes that way, may there be a chance for a cour3 with the remaning 2 Books/4 LNs of Season1? It'd be nice.

[tuckersister]

What is the relationship status as of Vol 4? I heard that war rabbit with Kouichirou got stuck in Japan with him when the Gate closed and for 4 years work as a waitress. I wonder they're still together.

[aohige]

Originally Posted by xrick

Erm... How do you know the adaption is gonna cover all of those Books/LNs? Wild guess or some sort of intel?
There's a Manga of sorts of when Pina was a child/teen. May it be related to that Gaiden+ story part?

The official webpage.
http://gate-anime.com/bd-dvd/index.html

Vol 6~9 is titled Flame Dragon
Vol 10~12 is titled Upheaval
Those are the same name as the corresponding books.

[RDNexus]

Oh, even better, then! I guess...

By the way, I've barely skimmed through the Manga's equivalent of these two episodes, but I got the feeling they kinda "softened" this episode's content... Am I right?

[The Magic Stuff]

Originally Posted by xrick

Oh, even better, then! I guess...

By the way, I've barely skimmed through the Manga's equivalent of these two episodes, but I got the feeling they kinda "softened" this episode's content... Am I right?

They did

[RDNexus]

As I thought... But how so?