Gundam mecha v/s Mecha from other series...

[gambit13]

I like the Gundam series...in general...and the mecha too...08Th MS team..Gundam Wing...the orginal series line..etc...in general....but I would like to compare the mecha design and capabilities to my fav mechs from Robotech...to me alll the gundam mecha carry a lot of fire power and armor but the robotech mecha posses greater manuverabilityand other advantages....so ur take fellow gundam and mecha geeks...

[Nagare Ryouma]

Well, we really can't compare both series towards each other.... The difference is just too wide. I am a Gundam fan, but let alone that Macross's Valkyries designs are awesome. I love the idea how a single mech could change into 3 different types of forms to match with the terrain.
Anyways, if your talking about abilities and being agile, Valkyries could be faster due to their size. However... If you get a pilot who is a NT, let's say.. Amuro Ray... Chances of making a big mecha like the RX-78-2 move beyond it's limits is possible. Near the end of the OYW series, there was a EP which showed the RX-78-2 joints overheating easily and couldn't follow up with Amuro's movements anymore... So the pilot can be a crucial factor towards pushing the mechs to it's limits.... (Remember, the RX-78-2 is not a MS specifically made for a NewType)

But... the Macross SDF when it becomes the Attack Mode is truly powerful. Always wanted to see the Ra Calium's hyper beam cannon or ZZ's hyper mega Beam cannon vs the SDF's cannons (which I have forgotten it's name..) That would be awesome....

[Daigo]

Don't valks carry reaction missles that are like nukes? Unless a gundam could shoot them down before it hits, I don't think a Gundam is much of a match. Valks are too fast with reaction weapons.

[Komataguri]

Valkyries could definately out manuver all but the most technologically advanced and powerful Mobile Suits.

Firepower, on the other hand, I am unsure off. All Valkyries have are gunpod rifle things, While Mobile Suits have Rifles, Gattling Guns, Vulcans, Beam Sabers/Heat Hawks, ect ect.

Of course, Firepower means nothing if you can't hit a Target.

Its a toss up, and would come down to the better pilot.

[sarcasteak]

Two words: BEAM SABERS.


"*gasp* *huff* Ped-lo...*huff* I'm your faaaaather!! *gasp*"

[EclipseZeta]

Originally Posted by Komataguri

Valkyries could definately out manuver all but the most technologically advanced and powerful Mobile Suits.

Firepower, on the other hand, I am unsure off. All Valkyries have are gunpod rifle things, While Mobile Suits have Rifles, Gattling Guns, Vulcans, Beam Sabers/Heat Hawks, ect ect.

Of course, Firepower means nothing if you can't hit a Target.

Its a toss up, and would come down to the better pilot.

Valkyries are more maneuverable, and far faster than mobile suits. The Zeta Plus A1, which is a Z Gundam modified for mass production and ground/air combat, would most likely be one of the better Gundams in an aerial combat. However, according to the Master Grade Z Plus model kit manual, the Z Plus Waverider still fails to be as fast as a conventional fighter jet. (I think they mentioned something like mach 2.) Just look at how fast the YF-19 and YF-21 were in Macross Plus. O_o The one distinct advantage that a mobile suit would hold over a fighter jet is the aiming capability that its humanoid form would it it... but then Valkyries have the Battloid form too.

As for armaments, it's a tough call. Newtype weapons like Funnels would probably frustrate a Valkyrie, even those with Reaction Missles. (Char shot down like 10 nukes in Char's Counterattack...) And I think Super Robot Wars has always rated the mobile suits' weapons with higher damage ratings, on the average, than a Valkyries'.

In my opinion though, an Orbital Frame like Jehuty from Zone of Enders would romp on both Valkyries and Gundams. =P

[Syn13]

Some series I remember that involve mechs other than Macross are:
Patlabor
Nadesico
Front Mission(not an anime series but good mention)
Evangelion(probably too advance)
Hmmmm...can't remember any other series those above are just some I remember.

Patlabors' technology seem a little outdated compared to the other series but should compare great against the Mechs in Front Mission.
From what I learnt from Super Robot Wars is that Valyrie's the armor is much weaker than Gundams but make up for their speed.

[Hanbok]

Originally Posted by Syn13

Some series I remember that involve mechs other than Macross are:
Patlabor
Nadesico
Front Mission(not an anime series but good mention)
Evangelion(probably too advance)
Hmmmm...can't remember any other series those above are just some I remember.

Patlabors' technology seem a little outdated compared to the other series but should compare great against the Mechs in Front Mission.
From what I learnt from Super Robot Wars is that Valyrie's the armor is much weaker than Gundams but make up for their speed.

Nadesico's suits kind of suck or they DO suck.

[JohnSilver]

GETTER BEAM!!!!!!!!!!

Even a gundam cannot defeat the utter power of the Getter Robo...

[Komataguri]

I tell you what would definately beat a gundam into the ground, SUMOMO [Chobits]


Sumomo would so pwn a Gundam.

[sarcasteak]

But no robot can defeat the ABSOLUTE TERROR FIELD!!

[Flying Dagger]

The Lambda driver in FMP rocks ^^
Too bad ASs can't fly.

[Daigo]

>>>>>In my opinion though, an Orbital Frame like Jehuty from Zone of Enders would romp on both Valkyries and Gundams. =P

Yea maybe.... Those homing missles are insane.

[srb]

Originally Posted by Flying Dagger

The Lambda driver in FMP rocks ^^
Too bad ASs can't fly.

Oh but they can - Mao's and Kurz' Gernsbacks were equipped with flight packs in a mission.

[Nagare Ryouma]

Originally Posted by EclipseZeta

In my opinion though, an Orbital Frame like Jehuty from Zone of Enders would romp on both Valkyries and Gundams. =P

LOL~ I totally agree with you... OF's are like RR's monsters....

[gambit13]

Originally Posted by Nagare Ryouma

LOL~ I totally agree with you... OF's are like RR's monsters....

true those things are monsters...i agree we can compare very few mecha to each other....ZOE mecha are of a different level....FMP mecha re cool but cant fly ...its true a the valkyres cant keep up with gundams probably but i think alphas, hovertanks can take on the gundams probably....and maybe couple of cyclones working together could take down a MS or gundam.... ..man i luv the cyclones..

[srb]

Originally Posted by gambit13

FMP mecha re cool but cant fly

Yes they can.

And in Battloid mode a Valkyrie is actually slower - a VF1 can run at ~160 km/h whilst the RX-78NT-1 Alex can run at 192km/h.

[Komataguri]

Originally Posted by srb

Yes they can.

And in Battloid mode a Valkyrie is actually slower - a VF1 can run at ~160 km/h whilst the RX-78NT-1 Alex can run at 192km/h.

But it dosn't need to be in Battloid.

It could be Gerwalk and use its jets to ZOOM.

[Mr_Paper]

Originally Posted by Syn13

Patlabors' technology seem a little outdated compared to the other series but should compare great against the Mechs in Front Mission.

Patlabor's technology and mecha were designed to be realistic given modern technology, Gundam type stuff is supposedly several hundred years in the future. ^^:

[srb]

And Patrol Labors are for police use, not military use.