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kujoe · 2011-05-04, 16:15

After what seems like a rushed Dragon Age 2, yes... please take your time on Mass Effect 3, Bioware.

FlareKnight · 2011-05-04, 16:15

Yeah considering how Bioware has done lately actually taking their time is actually comforting.

On the Tali debate, I'm probably as mixed as anyone. Really do want to see under the mask, but definitely the expectations would be so high it'd be tough. Curious to see what they end up doing.

Riga92 · 2011-05-04, 16:16

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Originally Posted by -KarumA-

News:

Mass Effect 3 is delayed untill the Q1 2012

http://www.joystiq.com/2011/05/04/ma...ect-3-delayed/

If only it were because EA learned something from the mess Bioware had been making the last year.

I actually find this good news. Seeing as Skyrim is coming out November, I now don't have to worry about playing between Skyrim or Mass Effect. I can now play Skyrim for the rest of 2011 with no worries

And more development time for games is always a plus.

Kyero Fox · 2011-05-04, 17:14

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Originally Posted by Riga92

I actually find this good news. Seeing as Skyrim is coming out November, I now don't have to worry about playing between Skyrim or Mass Effect. I can now play Skyrim for the rest of 2011 with no worries

And more development time for games is always a plus.

exactly how i felt when i heard the news XD "yay skyrim for the rest of 2011" instead of switching back and forth.

-KarumA- · 2011-05-04, 18:37

I think they did it because of this years releases. Bioware is hungering for the goty as always. A better way to avoid the competition is by settings everything on delay for at least a year.

This will give them more time to properly finish the game, though we've already seen much better content now than we had done in DA2. EA better whip Bioware back into shape.

Also I tri-agree, Skyrim yaaay

Keroko · 2011-05-04, 18:41

There's also the release of the Old Republic to think about. Releasing two sci-fi RPG's close to one another can only result in a loss of sales.

Who · 2011-05-04, 20:15

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Originally Posted by -KarumA-

I think they did it because of this years releases. Bioware is hungering for the goty as always. A better way to avoid the competition is by settings everything on delay for at least a year.

This will give them more time to properly finish the game, though we've already seen much better content now than we had done in DA2. EA better whip Bioware back into shape.

Also I tri-agree, Skyrim yaaay

I thought EA was a part of the reason why Bioware didn't do so great with DA2? Pushing the release date to be within 1-2 years...

synaesthetic · 2011-05-04, 21:04

Sad news for me. Skyrim won't keep my interest unless it's got more Fallout New Vegas soul and less Oblivion.

Sadly, TES hasn't even been very interesting since Daggerfall.

Kyral · 2011-05-05, 04:45

Well.. maybe this helps a tiny little bit with the "OMG! Thier going to rush ME3 like they did DA2 and now it will suck hardcore!" posts we can find all over the internet.

And with SWTOR and Skyrim underway, I can wait. ^-^

TigerII · 2011-05-05, 11:12

I don't care about the delay, but I do care that EA is changing it. They said they are going to make it appeal to a wider market. EA said Shooter meets RPG, meaning a shooter with RPG elements.

I hate EA so much. They are dumbing down gaming to appeal to the shooter crowd.

Kyero Fox · 2011-05-05, 11:23

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Originally Posted by TigerII

I don't care about the delay, but I do care that EA is changing it. They said they are going to make it appeal to a wider market. EA said Shooter meets RPG, meaning a shooter with RPG elements.

I hate EA so much. They are dumbing down gaming to appeal to the shooter crowd.

you sure they dont mean their changing so all the crew are Bisexual

(Suddenly!)

Cub-Sama · 2011-05-05, 12:43

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Originally Posted by TigerII

I don't care about the delay, but I do care that EA is changing it. They said they are going to make it appeal to a wider market. EA said Shooter meets RPG, meaning a shooter with RPG elements.

I hate EA so much. They are dumbing down gaming to appeal to the shooter crowd.

Its not so much dumbing the game down, having 10000 different options is a very niche crowd, whilst people love to have choices with too many choices it becomes either arbitrary or boring. A system from ME1 a bit more streamlined for ability and armour choices with an improved combat from ME2 with a bigger universe like ME1 would make me a happy bunny.

Kyral · 2011-05-05, 14:22

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Originally Posted by TigerII

EA said Shooter meets RPG, meaning a shooter with RPG elements.

Wait a second, wasn't the first game like this?

Keroko · 2011-05-05, 14:49

Both ME games have been like this. Hell, ME2's ammo system already moved it closer to the shooter branch and arguably made it even more difficult because of it.

From what we've heard of ME3, I have seen no clue whatsoever of it being dumbed down.

Riga92 · 2011-05-05, 15:06

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Originally Posted by TigerII

I don't care about the delay, but I do care that EA is changing it. They said they are going to make it appeal to a wider market. EA said Shooter meets RPG, meaning a shooter with RPG elements.

I hate EA so much. They are dumbing down gaming to appeal to the shooter crowd.

The way I see it in regard to the combat system, ME1 was an RPG with Shooter elements while ME2 was a Shooter with RPG elements. Bioware said they were adding in more RPG elements such as deeper skill trees and weapon modding to ME3 while retaining the combat elements from ME2, so it seems like ME3 will be more equal and could be called RPG/Shooter hybrid. So yea, I don't think they are dumbing down ME3 like they dumbed down DA2. They are making it deeper and more customizable on the contrary.

kujoe · 2011-05-05, 16:00

Apparently, part of the reason for the delay is due to the mechanics of ME3 is being adjusted for "larger market opportunity". My reaction that is, "Didn't they do that for ME2 already? What else can they do?"

What I've heard of the game sounds good on paper, but this recent statement has gotten others to speculate on possible multiplayer and even further 'dumbed down' gameplay for ME3.

joystiq

Riga92 · 2011-05-05, 16:09

^ It's already been confirmed in the Game Informer article that there is no multiplayer in ME3. And so far, Bioware is re-adding some RPG elements to ME3 so it doesn't seem like its gonna be dumbed down. As for the "larger market opportunity," I think they're trying to balance the game so it appeals to the hardcore RPG fans while at the same time doesn't leave out casual fans. Whether this is true or will happen remains to be seen.

Here's a forum thread containing all the confirmed features and dev promises in ME3: Mass Effect 3 Confirmed Features

kujoe · 2011-05-05, 16:19

I already know that Bioware has come out stating that there will be no multiplayer in ME3.

I'm not exactly sure about the nature of the relationship between the two, but if EA is seriously aiming for multiplayer, can Bioware still say no?

Riga92 · 2011-05-05, 16:44

I'm not sure but since Bioware is subsidiary of EA, if EA wants multiplayer, they probably could force Bioware to implement multiplayer.

Keroko · 2011-05-05, 17:18

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Originally Posted by kujoe

Apparently, part of the reason for the delay is due to the mechanics of ME3 is being adjusted for "larger market opportunity". My reaction that is, "Didn't they do that for ME2 already? What else can they do?"

The addition of a more detailed melee combat, from the looks of things.

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FlareKnight User of the "Fast Draw" Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Canada	Yeah considering how Bioware has done lately actually taking their time is actually comforting. On the Tali debate, I'm probably as mixed as anyone. Really do want to see under the mask, but definitely the expectations would be so high it'd be tough. Curious to see what they end up doing. __________________ Anime-Evo

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synaesthetic blinded by blood Author Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Oakland, CA Age: 39	Sad news for me. Skyrim won't keep my interest unless it's got more Fallout New Vegas soul and less Oblivion. Sadly, TES hasn't even been very interesting since Daggerfall. __________________ Indie science fiction author and all-around weirdo: Check out my original fiction here! Read an excerpt from my sci-fi novel Binary System!

2011-05-05, 04:45	Link #269
Kyral OC Belka Scriptor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Germany Age: 40	Well.. maybe this helps a tiny little bit with the "OMG! Thier going to rush ME3 like they did DA2 and now it will suck hardcore!" posts we can find all over the internet. And with SWTOR and Skyrim underway, I can wait. ^-^ __________________

2011-05-05, 16:09	Link #277
Riga92 The Spear of Destiny Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: A place where the stars cross. Age: 31	^ It's already been confirmed in the Game Informer article that there is no multiplayer in ME3. And so far, Bioware is re-adding some RPG elements to ME3 so it doesn't seem like its gonna be dumbed down. As for the "larger market opportunity," I think they're trying to balance the game so it appeals to the hardcore RPG fans while at the same time doesn't leave out casual fans. Whether this is true or will happen remains to be seen. Here's a forum thread containing all the confirmed features and dev promises in ME3: Mass Effect 3 Confirmed Features __________________

2011-05-05, 16:44	Link #279
Riga92 The Spear of Destiny Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: A place where the stars cross. Age: 31	I'm not sure but since Bioware is subsidiary of EA, if EA wants multiplayer, they probably could force Bioware to implement multiplayer. __________________

2011-05-04, 16:15	Link #261
kujoe from head to heel Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Vancouver, Canada Age: 42	After what seems like a rushed Dragon Age 2, yes... please take your time on Mass Effect 3, Bioware.

2011-05-04, 18:37	Link #265
-KarumA- (｡☉౪ ⊙｡) Author Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: In Maya world, where all is 3D and everything crashes Age: 36	I think they did it because of this years releases. Bioware is hungering for the goty as always. A better way to avoid the competition is by settings everything on delay for at least a year. This will give them more time to properly finish the game, though we've already seen much better content now than we had done in DA2. EA better whip Bioware back into shape. Also I tri-agree, Skyrim yaaay

2011-05-04, 18:41	Link #266
Keroko Adeptus Animus Author Join Date: Jan 2007 Age: 36	There's also the release of the Old Republic to think about. Releasing two sci-fi RPG's close to one another can only result in a loss of sales.

2011-05-05, 11:12	Link #270
TigerII Pilot in Training Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Earth	I don't care about the delay, but I do care that EA is changing it. They said they are going to make it appeal to a wider market. EA said Shooter meets RPG, meaning a shooter with RPG elements. I hate EA so much. They are dumbing down gaming to appeal to the shooter crowd.

2011-05-05, 14:49	Link #274
Keroko Adeptus Animus Author Join Date: Jan 2007 Age: 36	Both ME games have been like this. Hell, ME2's ammo system already moved it closer to the shooter branch and arguably made it even more difficult because of it. From what we've heard of ME3, I have seen no clue whatsoever of it being dumbed down.

2011-05-05, 16:00	Link #276
kujoe from head to heel Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Vancouver, Canada Age: 42	Apparently, part of the reason for the delay is due to the mechanics of ME3 is being adjusted for "larger market opportunity". My reaction that is, "Didn't they do that for ME2 already? What else can they do?" What I've heard of the game sounds good on paper, but this recent statement has gotten others to speculate on possible multiplayer and even further 'dumbed down' gameplay for ME3. joystiq

2011-05-05, 16:19	Link #278
kujoe from head to heel Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Vancouver, Canada Age: 42	I already know that Bioware has come out stating that there will be no multiplayer in ME3. I'm not exactly sure about the nature of the relationship between the two, but if EA is seriously aiming for multiplayer, can Bioware still say no?