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blitz1/2 · 2013-04-10, 22:29

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Perhaps what saved him was whatever protected Kira from the self destruction of the Aegis

Who knows? They cut off his helmet scene right? It could be that he was sent drifting after the suit exploded, but his oxygen is intact?

Rising Dragon · 2013-04-10, 22:34

It was cut, so chances are he did get sent drifting, which isn't much better. The Lohengrin positron cannon essentially works on the principles of antimatter, there was no way in hell he should've survived.

Skye629 · 2013-04-10, 22:40

All evidence points to the Strike having godlike pilot safety installed XD

Destined_Fate · 2013-04-11, 09:27

Or Mwu surviving was a retcon and he was supposed to die like Andrew Waltfeld but they changed it after the fact because they got cold feet.

Literally no way Andrew Waltfeld could have survived his death scene. Especially since when it happened he was hugging Aisha. They can't even go with her body shielding him because of how much smaller she was than him and the fact that he took the brunt of the explosion with her.

Sure while Kira living and than appearing in space(A big WTF moment if you don't read Astray) was BS it wasn't anywhere near as BS as was Andrew and Mwu's survivals.

S.Freedom · 2013-04-11, 11:41

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Originally Posted by FlareKnight

Yet interestingly enough the Lacus dust decided against reviving Flay

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Lacus may seem innocent, be she is a woman. And her women's intuition told her Flay was a threat to her where Kira was concerned. Simply put she didn't want any competition for his feelings.(let the wild speculation begin)

To be honest though. I'd have preferred Flay survive than Mwu. His death was epic and they ruined it with a retcon.

blitz1/2 · 2013-04-11, 11:58

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Originally Posted by S.Freedom

Lacus may be seem innocent, be she is a woman. And her women's intuition told her Flay was a threat to her where Kira was concerned. Simply put she didn't want any competition for his feelings.(let the wild speculation begin)

To be honest though. I'd have preferred Flay survive than Mwu. His death was epic and they ruined it with a retcon.

But Flay in a way, haunted Kira for the years to come.

FlareKnight · 2013-04-11, 15:49

Gundam Seed was all about the BS survival. Makes those that actually died go "hey!?"

Maybe Death was said "whoa I can't take good guys like Andrew Waltfeld and Mwu. Back you go!"

Guess one can say the Strike was really good at keeping its pilot alive. That and Kira somewhat pulled a Shinn except at least he killed half the inhabitants in Waltfeld's suit.

The American Average · 2013-04-11, 16:04

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Originally Posted by Destined_Fate

Literally no way Andrew Waltfeld could have survived his death scene. Especially since when it happened he was hugging Aisha. They can't even go with her body shielding him because of how much smaller she was than him and the fact that he took the brunt of the explosion with her.

Well at least with Waltfeld he lost an arm and an eye. unlike Mwu's strike which got disintegrated and he left with a couple of scars.

Shinhwa · 2013-04-11, 18:36

Next thing Sunrise should do after REMASTER is to actually make the movie that has been delayed for like 6 years...

GN0010 Nosferatu · 2013-04-11, 19:13

I'm somewhat confident that just may happen. The SEED remaster was a huge success wasn't it? Reigniting intereset in the Cosmic Era. Destiny is sure to do so as well. With these two remasters, the SEED franchise will be fresh in people's mind, making it more appropriate to start the movie. IMO of course.

Rising Dragon · 2013-04-11, 19:14

Now, see, that kind of thinking implies that keeping SEED Destiny fresh in people's minds would be a good thing, Nos. :V This is not so.

The American Average · 2013-04-11, 19:15

do we really need a movie? don't like all the voice actors hate there time with the seed destiny anime. why would they want to come back for more abuse/getting their character butchered even more? We all know if there's going to be a movie it'll just be Kira and Lacus with cameos of athrun and shinn.

Skye629 · 2013-04-11, 20:28

How about a Highschool drama movie starring all of the characters of SEED? -sarcasm-

monster · 2013-04-11, 21:55

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Originally Posted by Rising Dragon

Now, see, that kind of thinking implies that keeping SEED Destiny fresh in people's minds would be a good thing

It is. From what I've read over the years, people (including me) tend to forget things and just need to be reminded of what actually happened in Destiny and not what they thought happened.

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do we really need a movie?

We don't need anything. It's entertainment, purely optional. But some people would love to have a movie.

Washu-Chan · 2013-04-11, 22:01

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Originally Posted by blitz1/2

But Flay in a way, haunted Kira for the years to come.

Much like how Lalah continued to haunt Amuro and Char, until it came ahead in CCA?

Why not bring up a new character, one who claims to be related to both Kira and Fllay (think Beltorchika's Children)?

Of course, that wouldn't go over with the Kira/Lacus fanbase.

blitz1/2 · 2013-04-11, 23:04

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Originally Posted by Washu-Chan

Much like how Lalah continued to haunt Amuro and Char, until it came ahead in CCA?

Why not bring up a new character, one who claims to be related to both Kira and Fllay (think Beltorchika's Children)?

Of course, that wouldn't go over with the Kira/Lacus fanbase.

More like we may get a return or some form of Stellar, because wasn't she supposed to "appear" in future franchises?

monster · 2013-04-11, 23:49

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Originally Posted by Washu-Chan

Why not bring up a new character, one who claims to be related to both Kira and Fllay (think Beltorchika's Children)?

Why would anyone want to claim to be related to both Kira and Flay? Also, can you explain the Beltorchika's Children reference?

S.Freedom · 2013-04-11, 23:53

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Originally Posted by blitz1/2

But Flay in a way, haunted Kira for the years to come.

Only because Rau didn't give them a chance to have a heart to heart about the screwed up relationship they had. Just think what could've happened if they'd managed to talk through their issues. It surely would've helped Kira's mental health loads. And it would've completed Flay's redemption if you ask me.

Though I'll admit to having a soft spot for redheads so I may not be entirely unbiased where Flay is concerned.

The only way someone could claim to be related to both Kira and Flay is if Flay was preggers with Kira's kid and somehow gave birth while with Rau. Not unless it's somehow revealed that they where third cousins or something.

quagmire · 2013-04-11, 23:57

No goodies in the latest episode..... So far the Destiny remaster is just making everything in HD...... Just like with the original versions, Seed's remaster is shaping up to be better.....

Washu-Chan · 2013-04-12, 00:07

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Also, can you explain the Beltorchika's Children reference?

It's the novel adaptation of Char's Counterattack, and I believe that it was supposed to be one of the earlier drafts for CCA, and is known for introducing the Hi-Nu Gundam (a more compete version of the Nu Gundam).

AFAIK, in the novel, Amuro and Beltorchika had a child.

Supposedly, Tomino planned to have Beltorchika in CCA, but after he was denied by Sunrise, she was replaced by Chan Agi.

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Rising Dragon Goat Herder Author Join Date: Jun 2008 Age: 36	It was cut, so chances are he did get sent drifting, which isn't much better. The Lohengrin positron cannon essentially works on the principles of antimatter, there was no way in hell he should've survived. __________________

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FlareKnight User of the "Fast Draw" Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Canada	Gundam Seed was all about the BS survival. Makes those that actually died go "hey!?" Maybe Death was said "whoa I can't take good guys like Andrew Waltfeld and Mwu. Back you go!" Guess one can say the Strike was really good at keeping its pilot alive. That and Kira somewhat pulled a Shinn except at least he killed half the inhabitants in Waltfeld's suit. __________________ Anime-Evo

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Rising Dragon Goat Herder Author Join Date: Jun 2008 Age: 36	Now, see, that kind of thinking implies that keeping SEED Destiny fresh in people's minds would be a good thing, Nos. :V This is not so. __________________

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The American Average 2LMES Join Date: May 2012 Location: a comet that goes zooom!!!	do we really need a movie? don't like all the voice actors hate there time with the seed destiny anime. why would they want to come back for more abuse/getting their character butchered even more? We all know if there's going to be a movie it'll just be Kira and Lacus with cameos of athrun and shinn. __________________

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Skye629 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	All evidence points to the Strike having godlike pilot safety installed XD

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Destined_Fate Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: "Sacrifice one to appease the few."	Or Mwu surviving was a retcon and he was supposed to die like Andrew Waltfeld but they changed it after the fact because they got cold feet. Literally no way Andrew Waltfeld could have survived his death scene. Especially since when it happened he was hugging Aisha. They can't even go with her body shielding him because of how much smaller she was than him and the fact that he took the brunt of the explosion with her. Sure while Kira living and than appearing in space(A big WTF moment if you don't read Astray) was BS it wasn't anywhere near as BS as was Andrew and Mwu's survivals.

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Shinhwa Banned Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Toronto, ON, Canada Age: 33	Next thing Sunrise should do after REMASTER is to actually make the movie that has been delayed for like 6 years...

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GN0010 Nosferatu Where's the monoeye? Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Hargenteen Age: 35	I'm somewhat confident that just may happen. The SEED remaster was a huge success wasn't it? Reigniting intereset in the Cosmic Era. Destiny is sure to do so as well. With these two remasters, the SEED franchise will be fresh in people's mind, making it more appropriate to start the movie. IMO of course.

2013-04-11, 20:28	Link #6253
Skye629 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	How about a Highschool drama movie starring all of the characters of SEED? -sarcasm-

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quagmire Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2010	No goodies in the latest episode..... So far the Destiny remaster is just making everything in HD...... Just like with the original versions, Seed's remaster is shaping up to be better.....