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yezhanquan · 2008-07-06, 19:31

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Originally Posted by Vallen Chaos Valiant

Too dangerous. If Rollo know he is about to be Geassed (by noting Lulu removed his contacts), it would end badly.

I think by this stage, Lulu is done with being the nice guy. He won't wear the contact anymore. Anyway, the Geass sigil is only for our reference, or do characters actually see it too?

Vallen Chaos Valiant · 2008-07-06, 19:33

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Originally Posted by yezhanquan

I think by this stage, Lulu is done with being the nice guy. He won't wear the contact anymore. Anyway, the Geass sigil is only for our reference, or do characters actually see it too?

The contact isn't for being nice, but to keep Geass under control like a caged lion. He needed to wear to not Geass people randomly.

KrimzonStriker · 2008-07-06, 19:33

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So he deserves the chance to live his life even though he ended Shirley's chance to live her life and this is someone that considered him a friend. What do you think would happen if Lelouch recovered Nunnally its quite obvious ain't it he'd murder Nunnally too. There's really nothing he can do to make up for what he did because he'd do it again and again and again if he had too and he'd do it with absolutly no remorse.

No, I merely ask that he have a chance to die well is all in order to make-up for what happened. And once again, I still remain hopeful that Rolo has the qualities to grow beyond what happened in Turn 13 where he will make the decision to not do something like that again if he is responsible, develop a concise in time basically, and I'd like to give him the benefit of the doubt in order to prove our condemnation and assassination of his character wrong, that he was someone who had worth in life, before closing the book on him just yet.

yezhanquan · 2008-07-06, 19:34

Anyway, I think we need the autopsy. Heck, I think Lulu will demand to see it anyway.

DeotoxSlayer · 2008-07-06, 19:51

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Originally Posted by KrimzonStriker

No, I merely ask that he have a chance to die well is all in order to make-up for what happened. And once again, I still remain hopeful that Rolo has the qualities to grow beyond what happened in Turn 13 where he will make the decision to not do something like that again if he is responsible, develop a concise in time basically, and I'd like to give him the benefit of the doubt in order to prove our condemnation and assassination of his character wrong, that he was someone who had worth in life, before closing the book on him just yet.

The thing is that the only way he could die well is if Lelouch and him were on good ters, and anything that involves Lelouch forgiving Rollo(unless its a fake forgiveness thing which happens so Lelouch can use Rollo) would be a cop out and would be a disgrace to Shirley's death. It wouldn't be right for Lelouch to forgive rollo but the only way Rollo can have a good death is if Lelouch forgives Rollo.

KrimzonStriker · 2008-07-06, 19:56

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Originally Posted by DeotoxSlayer

The thing is that the only way he could die well is if Lelouch and him were on good ters, and anything that involves Lelouch forgiving Rollo(unless its a fake forgiveness thing which happens so Lelouch can use Rollo) would be a cop out and would be a disgrace to Shirley's death. It wouldn't be right for Lelouch to forgive rollo but the only way Rollo can have a good death is if Lelouch forgives Rollo.

How is that a disgrace to Shirley's death? Wasn't she the one going on and on about forgiveness and the like in her last moments? I feel he'd honor it if that happened, and giving Rolo a chance to do something with his own life for once sounds like a proper way to uphold that idea. >_>

yezhanquan · 2008-07-06, 19:57

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Originally Posted by Vallen Chaos Valiant

The contact isn't for being nice, but to keep Geass under control like a caged lion. He needed to wear to not Geass people randomly.

If he just watches his mouth properly, he will not Geass people randomly.

gabbytay · 2008-07-06, 20:00

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Originally Posted by yezhanquan

If he just watches his mouth properly, he will not Geass people randomly.

O'rly? i just want to say that

KrimzonStriker · 2008-07-06, 20:00

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Originally Posted by yezhanquan

If he just watches his mouth properly, he will not Geass people randomly.

I'd think they'd be standing around waiting on his orders that will never come if that was the case >_>

yezhanquan · 2008-07-06, 20:03

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Originally Posted by KrimzonStriker

I'd think they'd be standing around waiting on his orders that will never come if that was the case >_>

Rolo: Brother, that should cover everyone in the school.
Lelouch: Well done, Rolo. Jeremiah, commit the list to memory. Use the Canceller only when needed.
Jremiah: Yes, my lord.

gabbytay · 2008-07-06, 20:05

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Rolo: Brother, that should cover everyone in the school.
Lelouch: Well done, Rolo. Jeremiah, commit the list to memory. Use the Canceller only when needed.
Jremiah: Yes, my lord.

Then his geass activates to commit the list to memory order

Neux · 2008-07-06, 20:11

Shirley's death was suspicous, and right now it seems the only suspect is Rollo but there are reasons to suspect that it might not be him:

- Shirley's fatal wound looked like a bullet hole and does not seem to be caused by a knife, Rollo's primary weapon. Even by twisting the knife to create a hole, the hole should be larger and would be rough and jagged and not as perfectly round as the one the victim had

-Arguments that say Rollo used Shirley's own gun to kill her does not seem realistic considering Rollo's supposed mindset. Rollo's supposedly killed her because he snapped upon hearing Nunally's name. Now, upon snapping, Rollo should be quite unstable and the only thing on his mind should be to kill her right there and then and be based purely off impluse. His mind should not be clear enough in that state to think of a way to kill her and avoid suspician at the same time. Yes, Rollo had used Leleuch's gun against him once, but he was in a more stable state unlike in this supposed case. His supposed impulse to kill her and the way she died do not seem to fit well together.

-Some may also claim that Rollo killed Shirley because uttering Nunally's name means that Shirely has regained her memories and thus Rollo had to kill her so she doesn't reveal info she regained to others. But, then why was Shirley alive long enough to meet Lelouch. If Shirley was alive long enough to talk to Lelouch, she could have revealed what she knew to other in that time as well, like Suzaku who is in the mall somewhere, defeating the point of killing her and meaning Rollo didn't do a good job of killing her and he had plenty time to do so. This is uncharacteristic of a trained assassin who's killed countless victims before.

Jestersage · 2008-07-06, 20:19

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-Some may also claim that Rollo killed Shirley because uttering Nunally's name means that Shirely has regained her memories and thus Rollo had to kill her so she doesn't reveal info she regained to others. But, then why was Shirley alive long enough to meet Lelouch. If Shirley was alive long enough to talk to Lelouch, she could have revealed what she knew to other in that time as well, like Suzaku who is in the mall somewhere, defeating the point of killing her and meaning Rollo didn't do a good job of killing her and he had plenty time to do so. This is uncharacteristic of a trained assassin who's killed countless victims before.

One more hint is that with Rolo's geass, He can take his jolly time, taking the gun of someone, then point it to the other's head (which seems to be his way of doing things), and with no one around, take off his geass and shot them while they are in shock.

KrimzonStriker · 2008-07-06, 20:24

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One more hint is that with Rolo's geass, He can take his jolly time, taking the gun of someone, then point it to the other's head (which seems to be his way of doing things), and with no one around, take off his geass and shot them while they are in shock.

I think he's shot people even with his Geass on, he did so in front of an entire military academy in Turn 4 if I recall which left no opportunity for him to have taken it off at the time <_<

zalem · 2008-07-06, 20:31

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Originally Posted by Vallen Chaos Valiant

Too dangerous. If Rollo know he is about to be Geassed (by noting Lulu removed his contacts), it would end badly.

Not if he has Jeremiah by his side. Rolo is nothing once his geass is cancelled. He can hardly go up against a cyborg with that silly knife of his. But I don't think this is going to happen anyway....

TamaNeko · 2008-07-06, 20:31

It's only a matter of time now until Rolo does a Mao on Lelouch.

Spoiler:

Vallen Chaos Valiant · 2008-07-06, 20:32

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Not if he has Jeremiah by his side. Rolo is nothing once his geass is cancelled. He can hardly go up against a cyborg with that silly knife of his. But I don't think this is going to happen anyway....

Oh, I am sure Lulu could have Rollo killed if he wanted to. It's just that he has no proof that Rollo is guilty of anything, so he can't justify killing him. The only witness is us the audience.

KrimzonStriker · 2008-07-06, 20:35

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Oh, I am sure Lulu could have Rollo killed if he wanted to. It's just that he has no proof that Rollo is guilty of anything, so he can't justify killing him. The only witness is us the audience.

See, it is possible to frame Rolo, frame him in our eyes anyway

bbduece · 2008-07-06, 20:35

Rolo is too young to be an assassin that killed the mom unless he doesnt age like normal.

Can't wait to see if Lelouch will kill Rolo since Shirley is one of the few people Lelouch will go out of his way to protect.

JesseJamesRocket · 2008-07-06, 20:38

Bah at the idea that if Rolo did this he should die to pay for it. How many has Lelouche killed so far; and just as coldly if not more? I realize that some people really liked Shirley, but it is what it is. If Rolo did this, he's no more a monster than Lelouche is. In fact, Lelouche would be indirectly responsible in addition to the countless others he's killed, had killed in his name, as well as those who died as a result of his choices. Rolo is Lelouche's soldier/right hand man. If he did it, I think he did it because he thought it was necessary.

2008-07-06, 19:34	Link #704
yezhanquan Observer/Bookman wannabe Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Singapore Age: 38	Anyway, I think we need the autopsy. Heck, I think Lulu will demand to see it anyway. __________________

2008-07-06, 20:11	Link #712
Neux Member Join Date: Apr 2006	Shirley's death was suspicous, and right now it seems the only suspect is Rollo but there are reasons to suspect that it might not be him: - Shirley's fatal wound looked like a bullet hole and does not seem to be caused by a knife, Rollo's primary weapon. Even by twisting the knife to create a hole, the hole should be larger and would be rough and jagged and not as perfectly round as the one the victim had -Arguments that say Rollo used Shirley's own gun to kill her does not seem realistic considering Rollo's supposed mindset. Rollo's supposedly killed her because he snapped upon hearing Nunally's name. Now, upon snapping, Rollo should be quite unstable and the only thing on his mind should be to kill her right there and then and be based purely off impluse. His mind should not be clear enough in that state to think of a way to kill her and avoid suspician at the same time. Yes, Rollo had used Leleuch's gun against him once, but he was in a more stable state unlike in this supposed case. His supposed impulse to kill her and the way she died do not seem to fit well together. -Some may also claim that Rollo killed Shirley because uttering Nunally's name means that Shirely has regained her memories and thus Rollo had to kill her so she doesn't reveal info she regained to others. But, then why was Shirley alive long enough to meet Lelouch. If Shirley was alive long enough to talk to Lelouch, she could have revealed what she knew to other in that time as well, like Suzaku who is in the mall somewhere, defeating the point of killing her and meaning Rollo didn't do a good job of killing her and he had plenty time to do so. This is uncharacteristic of a trained assassin who's killed countless victims before.

2008-07-06, 20:31	Link #716
TamaNeko Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005	It's only a matter of time now until Rolo does a Mao on Lelouch. Spoiler:

2008-07-06, 20:35	Link #719
bbduece Ultimate Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: San Francisco	Rolo is too young to be an assassin that killed the mom unless he doesnt age like normal. Can't wait to see if Lelouch will kill Rolo since Shirley is one of the few people Lelouch will go out of his way to protect.

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JesseJamesRocket Maniacally loveable. Join Date: May 2008	Bah at the idea that if Rolo did this he should die to pay for it. How many has Lelouche killed so far; and just as coldly if not more? I realize that some people really liked Shirley, but it is what it is. If Rolo did this, he's no more a monster than Lelouche is. In fact, Lelouche would be indirectly responsible in addition to the countless others he's killed, had killed in his name, as well as those who died as a result of his choices. Rolo is Lelouche's soldier/right hand man. If he did it, I think he did it because he thought it was necessary.