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hi no ken Jebus · 2006-06-20, 15:52

Again kind of late but oh well.

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Please do not discuss anything past episode 86, or else you risk a ban. Don't even post future episode titles. Even tags are no defense.

XYKE · 2006-06-20, 17:17

No ichigo action? letdown

XYKE · 2006-06-20, 17:58

Notice the questionmark? It's just a filler arc, nothing will happen right now.

Scarlet · 2006-06-20, 18:57

Obviouslly no vice captains will die. This holds true even if it's not a filler because no one dies! ^_^

They can still be slapped around though

Thewanderer · 2006-06-20, 19:17

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Originally Posted by Scarlet

Obviouslly no vice captains will die. This holds true even if it's not a filler because no one dies! ^_^

They can still be slapped around though

They CAN die too. Haven't you ever heard of resurrecting? *coughDragonBallscough*

Deathkillz · 2006-06-20, 19:25

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Originally Posted by Thewanderer

They CAN die too. Haven't you ever heard of resurrecting? *coughDragonBallscough*

resurrect how?? and no dragonball jokes...so they cnt die...

Thewanderer · 2006-06-20, 19:35

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Originally Posted by Deathkillz

resurrect how?? and no dragonball jokes...so they cnt die...

I'm sure they'd find a way. And the dragonball thing WAS only just a joke

XYKE · 2006-06-20, 20:26

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Originally Posted by Thewanderer

They CAN die too. Haven't you ever heard of resurrecting? *coughDragonBallscough*

If that actually happens, I'm dropping bleach anime completely

Scarlet · 2006-06-20, 20:34

Maybe if they collected all the bountou dolls...

They could summon a giant doll will grant them one wish

Now the real question is, if a shinigami was revived would he retain his power.

KanaKaishou · 2006-06-20, 21:22

I'm pretty sure they could kill a no-name VC (that nameless? 1st division VC) in such a manner so it wouldn't be an issue...

NoSanninWa · 2006-06-21, 00:01

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Originally Posted by Scarlet

Obviouslly no vice captains will die. This holds true even if it's not a filler because no one dies! ^_^

They can still be slapped around though

Actually, everyone is overlooking one simple albeit unusual fact. Kubo Tite outlined this "filler." (As well as having done the character designs.) In other words, he could have told them to kill off anyone.

You'd be best to stop thinking of this as filler. While Kubo Tite didn't write the episodes, he did create the outline for the plot and left room in the manga for the time it takes. That means that things CAN change. Anyone that you haven't seen is still alive in the manga, might have died during this arc. Since we haven't yet seen all the VCs still alive in the next story arc, some might have already died during the Boundt story. (Please don't start listing the ones we've seen, since naming names would be spoilers.)

As much as I hate to repeat things that Thewanderer has said, this arc is part of the official story of Bleach and fits into the overall story, despite not having been in the manga. He's quite right. This is a rare case where you have to watch the anime in order to see the whole story.

Thewanderer · 2006-06-21, 00:08

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Originally Posted by NoSanninWa

As much as I hate to repeat things that Thewanderer has said

WTF? Why am I so bad now? I thought that my opinion is what made me hated here, but you're hating me just because? That's pretty rude out of you.

PhantomX · 2006-06-21, 00:31

I understood it to mean that he hates repeating things already said (in this instance by you), not that he hates repeating what you say in general.

NoSanninWa · 2006-06-21, 00:31

Sorry, it's not that you're bad or wrong. I just don't like repetitiveness. I'm sorry you thought that I was insulting you as that was not my intent.

Edit: Beaten to the post by PhantomX.

He's exactly right.

Thewanderer · 2006-06-21, 00:38

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Originally Posted by NoSanninWa

Sorry, it's not that you're bad or wrong. I just don't like repetitiveness. I'm sorry you thought that I was insulting you as that was not my intent.

Edit: Beaten to the post by PhantomX.

He's exactly right.

Oh, okay. I guess I need to work on socializing better...

Anyway, was there a new ED in this ep? I haven't watched it yet.

(((edit: just saw the first poster's pic

)))

nst_silver · 2006-06-21, 02:13

i thought this filler ep was actually pretty good. good pace, definitely not lagging like the last one.

brightredglow · 2006-06-21, 02:18

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Originally Posted by NoSanninWa

You'd be best to stop thinking of this as filler. While Kubo Tite didn't write the episodes, he did create the outline for the plot and left room in the manga for the time it takes. That means that things CAN change. Anyone that you haven't seen is still alive in the manga, might have died during this arc. Since we haven't yet seen all the VCs still alive in the next story arc, some might have already died during the Boundt story. (Please don't start listing the ones we've seen, since naming names would be spoilers.)

As much as I hate to repeat things that Thewanderer has said, this arc is part of the official story of Bleach and fits into the overall story, despite not having been in the manga. He's quite right. This is a rare case where you have to watch the anime in order to see the whole story.

Just out of curiosity, where is it said that Kubo did the outline? Is it in VIBES?

I'm pretty surprised to read that Kubo did the outline because it seems like the manga's timeline, if anything, has gotten a lot narrower and tighter in scope, almost aggressively so, whereas the anime lengthened the timeline. I'm trying to figure out where they could fit the anime arc in the manga timeline. There just doesn't seem to be a lot of wiggle room in the manga between the end of the SS arc and the current manga arc.

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I have to disagree. I've not seen the most recent episodes yet, however in the episodes I've seen, there were already some discrepancies, which make it impossible to fit together with the manga.
Either the author has given the anime crew to many liberties, or he didn't see the thngs himself, but the fact remains, that it doesn't fit completely.

I have to agree with Small One. There are detail discrepancies between the manga and the anime so they won't completely match up. Even if Kubo did a timeline and some character designs for the anime, he left a lot up to the anime team to fashion the story.

BTW, the above shouldn't be considered a criticism against the anime because I'm not exactly jumping up and down for joy for the manga's current story direction.

Thewanderer · 2006-06-21, 02:40

I have to say, the part where Nova used his powers was pretty cool, and it was great to finally see at least a little bit of what Rangiku's sword can do. The preview for the next ep looks like they might be finishing the fight on it.

Jingjong · 2006-06-21, 04:12

This was better than hi ken no jebus' summary made it sound like it would be.

I was suprised Rangiku used her zanpakutou at all, since before we've only seen her release it once, and really no description at all of what it did.

The end was pretty good as well, the close ups of the old man's face were pretty intense heh.

Is there really no episode next week? It's just not a one affiliate thing like before?

Deathkillz · 2006-06-21, 10:00

i kinda enjoyed this eps...but is it me or does Rangiku seem a bit weak?? for a vice captain her powers are way inferior...but it was funny the way she used her spirit force to shut chad up

i found nova extremely cool ^^ the strong silent type...and when he blushes and shuts his hood to hide his face its extremely cute...

2006-06-20, 15:52	Link #1
hi no ken Jebus Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2004	Episode 86 Discussion Thread Again kind of late but oh well. Spoiler: Rangiku arrives on earth she is trying to find the others. She runs into chad, nova, ururu, and the old man. She introduces herself to nova and co while ignoring the old man after chad tells her that he's a bount she gets serious. The old man summons his doll and attacks. Rangiku calls SS and tells them to freeze the surrounding area to avoid harming the souls in the vicinity. They can't harm the doll's skin and Rangiku can't use her zanpakutoh because it'll get swallowed into another dimensional thing similar to nova's powers. They escape to come up with a plan, the old man surprises them and Ururu sacrifices herself. Chad feels responsible and wonders about his powers and who they can protect. After Chad's useless flashback of SS with scenes he wasn't even in, Nova comes up with a plan. They trap the doll and old man in Nova's dimensional space but the old man gets out and has enough of their shenanigans and gets serious ending the episode. Next one airs 7/4. Please do not discuss anything past episode 86, or else you risk a ban. Don't even post future episode titles. Even tags are no defense.

2006-06-21, 00:31	Link #14
NoSanninWa Weapon of Mass Discussion Fansubber Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: New York, USA	Sorry, it's not that you're bad or wrong. I just don't like repetitiveness. I'm sorry you thought that I was insulting you as that was not my intent. Edit: Beaten to the post by PhantomX. He's exactly right. __________________ There's not that fine a line between willing suspension of disbelief and something just being stupid.

2006-06-21, 02:40	Link #18
Thewanderer Hiyori Fanboy Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Columbus, Ohio Age: 42	I have to say, the part where Nova used his powers was pretty cool, and it was great to finally see at least a little bit of what Rangiku's sword can do. The preview for the next ep looks like they might be finishing the fight on it. __________________

2006-06-21, 10:00	Link #20
Deathkillz ~ You're dead ^__^* ~ Graphic Designer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: uk, England Age: 34	i kinda enjoyed this eps...but is it me or does Rangiku seem a bit weak?? for a vice captain her powers are way inferior...but it was funny the way she used her spirit force to shut chad up i found nova extremely cool ^^ the strong silent type...and when he blushes and shuts his hood to hide his face its extremely cute... __________________ Siggy: hohohohoho~ \| AnimeHistory welcome to our blog ~ \| Summer2009 early review Under the radar series Summer2009: Kanamemo, GA Geijutsuka Art, NEEDLESS

2006-06-20, 17:17	Link #2
XYKE Super-Middle weight! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: sadasd	No ichigo action? letdown

2006-06-20, 17:58	Link #3
XYKE Super-Middle weight! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: sadasd	Notice the questionmark? It's just a filler arc, nothing will happen right now.

2006-06-20, 18:57	Link #4
Scarlet Member Join Date: Dec 2005	Obviouslly no vice captains will die. This holds true even if it's not a filler because no one dies! ^_^ They can still be slapped around though

2006-06-20, 20:34	Link #9
Scarlet Member Join Date: Dec 2005	Maybe if they collected all the bountou dolls... They could summon a giant doll will grant them one wish Now the real question is, if a shinigami was revived would he retain his power.

2006-06-20, 21:22	Link #10
KanaKaishou Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005	I'm pretty sure they could kill a no-name VC (that nameless? 1st division VC) in such a manner so it wouldn't be an issue...

2006-06-21, 00:31	Link #13
PhantomX Tsuruya's Lover Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: In Rider's Arms Age: 36	I understood it to mean that he hates repeating things already said (in this instance by you), not that he hates repeating what you say in general.

2006-06-21, 02:13	Link #16
nst_silver The 1000th summer Join Date: Jun 2006	i thought this filler ep was actually pretty good. good pace, definitely not lagging like the last one.

2006-06-21, 04:12	Link #19
Jingjong Member Join Date: Feb 2006	This was better than hi ken no jebus' summary made it sound like it would be. I was suprised Rangiku used her zanpakutou at all, since before we've only seen her release it once, and really no description at all of what it did. The end was pretty good as well, the close ups of the old man's face were pretty intense heh. Is there really no episode next week? It's just not a one affiliate thing like before?