2011-08-21, 21:37 | Link #15983 |
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Whatever it is not like I posted here trying to change your point of view. That never happens in a forum anyway. At least you have been given a new perspective on things, whether you try and do some research of your own or dismiss it all as BS it is your choice.
Besides, that is precisely why I jumped in the debate because I knew that most people don't like to be told to stop eating meat Edit: by the way, I love how life is, as I type this stuff I am watching the episode of Everybody Loves Raymond called: No fat. For the meat loves out there, this is for you: Last edited by Sugetsu; 2011-08-21 at 21:48. |
2011-08-21, 22:16 | Link #15984 |
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Hamas official: Gaza militants agree to cease-fire
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...08-21-21-23-05
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Such devices do in fact exist that help water deprived areas get water. But there's 2 problems: 1. You only get a trickle, enough to get drinking water, but not nearly enough for crops(most water is used in agriculture...) 2. In arid regions they don't work very well anyway as those areas are notoriously, well, dry. Quote:
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We've eliminated or ameliorated almost all the common causes of death. It's very uncommon for a person to die from Disease or malnutrition. Heart Disease can be treated with blood pressure meds. Malfunctioning organs can be replaced. But Cancer, it's hard. Also western populations also have higher rates of cancer due to the fact we're a lot more susceptible to skin cancer, because we're, well, white. |
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2011-08-21, 22:55 | Link #15986 | |
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2011-08-22, 00:40 | Link #15987 | |
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What's people's beef with homeopathic medicine? A homeophat is just a nutricionist. His focus is to give foods that will help you with your illness. Homeophaty focuses on boosting the immune system through nutricion that's all. if you suffer from depression he would tell you take vitamin c for example. Normal medicine has many advantages but it focuses too much on external factors to heal the body, when the body itself has incredible capabilities for self healing. It just comes down to proper nutrition. As for the machine that makes water, you are correct. It was just careless of my part to believe what the administrator of the Embassy of Sweden told me when I saw the machine and drank water from it. Last edited by Sugetsu; 2011-08-22 at 10:26. |
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2011-08-22, 04:43 | Link #15989 |
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The worse about homeopathy is than the medecine is supposed to be more efficient in smaller concentration, which is illogical (a fact than the user should overlook or ignore if he don't want to loose the placebo effect )
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2011-08-22, 06:17 | Link #15991 | |
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We do have a few biology grads and an apprentice of Eirin (Meo) here on the forums. Let's ask them.
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2011-08-22, 07:18 | Link #15992 |
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I've only studied a bit of Homeopathy in my pharmacy course but we all got the gist of it: it's bullshit. The problem with most alternative medicines is that there's very little quality control.
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2011-08-22, 08:09 | Link #15993 | |
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Alternative medecine is a hogwash. Some of the herbal remedies might work in certain circumstances, but the vast majority of it is snake oil. These Alternative medecines are usually just leftovers from the era prior to the advent of modern medecine, and medecine from then was as likely to kill you as cure you. No Alternative medecine these days is that dangerous, but it's more likely then not to do nothing. I can actually say the same thing about nutritionists. No qualifications are required to call yourself a nutritionist, it is not a professionally protected term (like Doctor, or Engineer). They have no legal responsibility to you. A lot of them are con artists looking to sell you suplements that do nothing, or foolish people with little grasp of how the body actually works. They can use any combinations of complicated words and most people will fall for it. If you want actual advice on your diet, see a dietitian. That is an actual profession, with legal controls. The medical establishment has it's share of flaws, for instance they try and push new expensive drugs when cheap old drugs do just as good a job. But the medical establishment won't ever prescribe you drugs that are completely ineffective. They are legally responsible for you while you are in their care (they owe you a "duty of care"). Their drugs have to go through an extensive approval process in the Food and Drugs Administration. But they don't sell snake oil, they'd get owned in court if they did that. In the end, the person you should really trust is your GP. Now admittedly some GPs have gaps in their knowledge(or are even negligent). When you have something is very serious you should always get a second (or even 3rd) opinion. But I can guarantee you that they know far more about what's going on then you could possibly. It's their job to. The only job homeopaths or Nutritionists have is to sell you their latest range of supplements. |
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Always go to your doctor first. And don't try and second guess him with stuff an ad told you on TV. If you are in doubt, get a second opinion. |
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2011-08-22, 11:33 | Link #15996 |
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The new leader of the official opposition of Canada, Jack Layton, has passed away after a second struggle with cancer.
Rest in peace, Jack.
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2011-08-22, 13:12 | Link #15997 |
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Chiropractic is also pretty much new-agey bullshit as well. It's heavily based on the idea of qi and power lines, which we know is best left to the realm of religion and spirituality, not medical science. It has about as much scientific substance as crystal healing does--which is to say none at all.
I've been to a chiropractor before, after a bad car accident--my insurance actually urged me to go, oddly enough--and what the chiropractor himself did was just pop my back. Sure, it felt good, but the massage therapist I saw afterwards (and paid for out of pocket) did far more actual good. The main reason it's the most accepted of the snake-oil quack medicines is that it isn't actively harmful (like alkaline water, et al) and it feels good, like a massage. So you get the soothing/relaxing feeling plus the placebo effect and people enjoy it. I personally don't see any issue with the act itself, honestly--my beef with chiropractic is all the bullshit claims they make about how it's a cure-all. That's dishonest and deceitful and shouldn't be tolerated by the FDA. I wish the whole "dietary supplement" type of gray area where quack medicine thrives and robs people of billions every year shouldn't exist. Some of these "supplements" are really, really bad for you. Medical science is not the big evil--while Big Pharma may be interested in making money, most doctors, pharmacologists, medical researchers are more interested in helping people than those who are after the profit alone. There are easier ways to make money than becoming a medical doctor.
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2011-08-22, 13:36 | Link #16000 |
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Some "quack" medicines are proven over time...but usually not for the reason the quack thinks it is. Usually it turns out to be a fungus or some other creature's chemical reaction with the human or virus system that causes a cure to some ailment. These can be pulled out by science and when they are, the quacks give way to real medicine.
The problem with the quacks in those cases (or shamen/old ritual healing methods) is that they didn't understand what the cure was, just that there was a cause and effect one or more times when they did something. Sometimes they didn't really know what thing is was that was the cure, so instead of filtering out parts of a ritual, they would just keep the whole ritual...just to be safe. Sometimes the ritual was kept, but the vital part was missing, because they didn't know that the first use of this was from a plant that has a specific mold on it, and just assumed it was the plant itself. Usually there is a reason for old timey medical practices to have worked and why shaman would be considered healers, but they either keep secrets (to hold their authority) or don't actually know the real reason whatever they do works...just that it does sometimes. Science is catching up with all sorts of things, but there are literally thousands of things we have yet to discover in the realm or the very small and the use of things we would normally kill (molds) or places we wouldn't normally look, but a wondering tribesmen would have looked. New-age crap, no...but after it has been processed through science...sure. Or course, a science cure for one person won't always work on another. We may be the same species, but we are all different in some ways. (Take Penicilian (from a mold) for example. The wonder drug of the 1940s and 1950s. Some Baby Boomers were overdosed on this as kids because people like Army doctors handed it out for everything and are now allergic to it.)
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