2013-05-03, 07:58 | Link #641 |
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One thing I forgot to mention, what I didn't like is apparently the head of JP is only 17.
Um what? It's not enough that your main characters are in High School, you need the head guy to be a teenager too? And he doesn't even look like a teen, so this just seems silly to me.
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For Yamato's case, he inherited the position from his family. |
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2013-05-03, 08:16 | Link #643 | |
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None of them are main characters! Maybe Ronaldo will have an important role but I can't see this with the others. The problem isn't just the age they gave him, but the fact that he acts nothing like a 17 year old, who to me is still a kid. And the thing is even if he was in his mid-twenties, that would still make him extremely young for the position he holds, so making him 17 for the hell of it seems pretty silly. And going back to Hibiki I mentioned that one of his flaws is he tries to do everything himself and doesn't rely on anyone. Another major flaw is he is letting himself be used by both JP and Ronaldo. I don't think either of these are really the best option.
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Yamato acting older than he looks is the point of his character. He's responsible for running a secret government organization that's has been functioning for generations. He never had a normal upbringing, yet with his age and actions you can also see that he has his flaws. In this case it would actually be even more jarring if he was in his 30s or 40s. You would then have a leader who is actively seeking out a teenager (Hibiki) for help. Then in the case that the protagonist outperforms him or shows him up, you would have a teenager being even more of a Gary Stu as he corrects a fully grown adult who should have known better. Quote:
It's also important from a storytelling perspective to see both "sides" before Hibiki and friends decide what they want to do in the end. |
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2013-05-03, 08:37 | Link #645 |
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Well, at 17 Yamato is actually younger than our main trio... Also, this is anime where you have fifteen-year-olds piloting highly dangerous weapons and stuff.
I find Yamato increasingly funny, I just noticed that in his character sheet in ep 2 he answers the "what's your hobby?" question with a mini rant about hobbies being pointless diversions. |
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Yamato doesn't. He doesn't look 17, he doesn't act 17. There is nothing about him that says he is 17 except words. So the only reason to make him 17 is its "cool" to have a young character be the head of JP (which I wouldn't mind if we were shown he was 17, not just told) Why not make him I don't know act like a kid. Maybe if he acted tough but we saw under the exterior he wasn't or didn't have all the answers even though he thought he did.... Even if there was a scene where he acted different by himself compared to when he was with everyone else. Right now they are telling me not showing me that he is 17. Quote:
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Now granted this might change at the end, but I still don't expect it to be because he is a teenager in over his head. Quote:
It's just not believable to me that this character is a kid. And I am not talking about his "role" in the story but how he acts.
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The story can tell me whatever it wants, whether I buy it or if it works for me is a different story.
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and really, there are a lots of 17 year old in real life who matured fast and act like if not more mature than your average adult too.
you can't apply normal people mental grow to a genius who have strict upbringing you know?
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I will agree with this, however. The anime original flashback was a bit much. |
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2013-05-03, 09:19 | Link #654 | |
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The only reason it seems they made Yamato 17, is because it is cool for the audience to have a young character in charge. @Shadow5YA I don't have a problem that he acting older than 17 because he is charge and had a strict upbringing but there still needs to be something for me to latch on that hey this character is really 17 and there just isn't. And sure you can have a sheltered adult. If you were raised a certain way as a kid it will manifest in you as an adult.
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2013-05-03, 09:24 | Link #656 | |
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I don't think that's "acting like a kid", though. Any adult could have doubts or act tough when he really isn't. If Yamato was like that, he would be a different character. (And who knows, perhaps we'll see a breakdown from him later on, characters like him are just asking for it.) |
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The difference is the wisdom and experience that are expected to come with age. There are immature adults and mature teens. It still doesn't change the fact that certain qualities (like being spoiled or sheltered) are more closely tied to children than adults. |
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2013-05-03, 09:46 | Link #658 | ||
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I thought he was in his 30's just by his look. When the girl was shocked her superior was so young, I was too but for a very different reason than her. Quote:
And sure other anime characters might look and act older but this is extreme for me, especially when compared to the other characters within the same show he is in. In fact besides having completely different philosophies he seems more similar to Ronaldo who is like 10 years older than him.
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Some comedy scenes would help you see Yamato act his age, but since the anime is omitting most of them and replacing them with Daichi being a joke in battle, I guess I'm going to have to echo the studio and Atlus' message to play the game |
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