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Old 2017-05-29, 11:25   Link #421
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I did like that Bakago did have respect for her and respect for his craft that he fought her on equal terms like he did.
I know the commentator made it seem like it with his analysis, but since Bakugo's perspective was silent I actually got the impression that Bakugo wasn't exactly seeing her during the match, because of his conversation with Deku afterward.

He was assuming that everything she did was Deku's plan; knowing they were close friends and after having fought Deku once before he had no choice but to respect whatever she was going to do and not let his guard down. So during the match it wasn't really Uraraka he was respecting, but Deku.

After he found out Deku had nothing to do with it, though, he was definitely acknowledging her.
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Old 2017-06-03, 05:49   Link #422
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Got everything I had expected from the fight between Deku and Todoroki. Actually, I think it exceeded my expectations with the added background of Todoroki and the emotions poured into the storytelling.

What an episode this week. Just wow.

The final few minutes were so great.
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Old 2017-06-03, 06:05   Link #423
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I know the commentator made it seem like it with his analysis, but since Bakugo's perspective was silent I actually got the impression that Bakugo wasn't exactly seeing her during the match, because of his conversation with Deku afterward.

He was assuming that everything she did was Deku's plan; knowing they were close friends and after having fought Deku once before he had no choice but to respect whatever she was going to do and not let his guard down. So during the match it wasn't really Uraraka he was respecting, but Deku.

After he found out Deku had nothing to do with it, though, he was definitely acknowledging her.
He wouldn't have called her by her name towards the end of the match and be genuinely heated up if all he saw of her was some goon following Deku's plan. He may have assumed she had help from Deku and was more cautious but in the end the persistence, guts and skill to carry out said plan was entirely hers, something he most definitely acknowledged and respected her for during the match.
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Old 2017-06-03, 06:28   Link #424
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Deku's real victory is in getting Todoroki, who has been blind to anyone but Endeavor, to look at and acknowledge the opponent in front of him.

He did great. Todoroki would likely have lost if he didn't acknowledge him.
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Old 2017-06-03, 06:39   Link #425
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dem animation at the end is insane!!! 10/10
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Old 2017-06-03, 07:02   Link #426
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It's no fun if Midoriya loses! He can't lose!

I was like the dad in mars attacks trying to change the channel when he saw his son die......"No, It aint happenin!"

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Old 2017-06-03, 07:34   Link #427
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I realised that my stance on this loss is slightly different from Uraraka's. So I tried to think about why this is. Maybe the difference here is that Deku wasn't being pragmatic at all? Making it feel like he wasn't in this to win? Even though he was? I don't know.

Maybe I'm just inspired by the fact that he ended up putting more value in saving Todoroki than in defeating him.
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Old 2017-06-03, 08:43   Link #428
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so much hype, evenmore so than the manga. Hell they added things that werent in the manga that im grateful for.

I felt so bad for my son Deku, but losing is how he gets more love

Truly a hero

Those last bits of animation were insane, Shouto looked like Gohan finishing off Cell with the one hand Kamehameha
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Old 2017-06-03, 08:48   Link #429
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Damn, I wonder where Todoroki's mom is right now. Getting "bullied" like that isn't cool, man.

That fight exceeded my expectations; it's easily the best fight so far. Not only was this my most anticipated match-up, but the animation and production value was so deserving. At this point, I don't even care if Deku lost. BUT, I'm surprised that Todoroki was able to stand after being hit by Deku's amped punches. He could've crushed his insides; I guess he was holding back since his whole arms weren't totally damaged after connecting those hits. He definitely would've done more damage if he hadn't missed his final attack on him as well.

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Old 2017-06-03, 09:09   Link #430
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Deku's real victory is in getting Todoroki, who has been blind to anyone but Endeavor, to look at and acknowledge the opponent in front of him.

He did great. Todoroki would likely have lost if he didn't acknowledge him.
Or he'd have won by just spamming ice attacks until Deku had jelly for bones.

That's what I don't like about Deku. It's one thing to sacrifice himself because lives are in danger. It's another to do so to win a mere school event. And think of the position it puts his opponents in.
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Old 2017-06-03, 09:30   Link #431
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cementoss and midnight interfered in the match, how is that fair?
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Old 2017-06-03, 09:47   Link #432
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The match was getting out of hand and either of them could of seriously got hurt

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Or he'd have won by just spamming ice attacks until Deku had jelly for bones.

That's what I don't like about Deku. It's one thing to sacrifice himself because lives are in danger. It's another to do so to win a mere school event. And think of the position it puts his opponents in.
Youre forgetting that Todoroki was also losing the endurance game because of his ice drawback ability having a negative effect on him.

This event is important to their careers as pro heroes. Which is what their dreams are to be. And of course the focus of the story. Not to mention he wanted to help Todoroki
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Old 2017-06-03, 10:07   Link #433
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I'm just happy that they don't do the usual intro about "how there are super power called 'quirk' and how people can become 'hero' ...etc..." yay
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Old 2017-06-03, 10:31   Link #434
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Holy shit that animation in the end!!! Bones, you trully are the greatest when it comes to these type of anime. I'm so glad Boku no Hero was blessed with such an amazing studio! My jaw is still dropped to this moment...omg!

The fight was awesome, the clashes insane and the ending totally unexpected. I totally though Deku would win. Actually he kinda won in a way by making Todoroki free of his insecurities and making him unleash his true potential. Just like in the UA test where Deku "wasted time" saving Uraraka despite having 0 points, he once again proves how heroic he can be by helping the ones in need. Even if he gets his whole body injured...lol
Also, Endeavor is really a scum. Treating both his son and Shoto's mother like garbage. Is he really an hero? He has a badass design but definitely no hero material there.

It was interesting seeing that Todoroki (and Bakugo too) also have limitations regarding their power even tho the one on Deku is far greater compared to them, at least for now. I also got the idea that when Todoroki activates his fire ability, it nulifies his limitation in using the ice. Does his fire have a weakness too tho?
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Old 2017-06-03, 10:40   Link #435
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Youre forgetting that Todoroki was also losing the endurance game because of his ice drawback ability having a negative effect on him.
Todoroki was getting cold and tired. Deku was breaking his bones a little more with every move. Deku only ever had a chance because Todoroki got hot headed. All he needed to do was go with weaker, more numerous ice attacks and focus on not letting Deku get close. Instead of charging himself like an idiot.

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This event is important to their careers as pro heroes. Which is what their dreams are to be. And of course the focus of the story. Not to mention he wanted to help Todoroki
It may be important, but it's not life and death. If nothing else, he has two more years. And "he wanted to help Todoroki" doesn't fly either if he has to destroy himself to that extent.
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Old 2017-06-03, 10:45   Link #436
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The episode went out of its way to explain that the endurance match would not be to Todoroki's advantage. But I guess it's better to just ignore facts to justify one's viewpoint.


By the way it occurred to me. Someone told me that if I knew more about the backstory, I'd feel more sympathetic towards Todoroki's mom. But I don't, I still don't care much for anyone who just pours boiling water over a child who reminds her of a bad man. Her one redeeming factor is that she herself acknowledged that she was unfit to take care of children.
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Old 2017-06-03, 10:52   Link #437
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It may be important, but it's not life and death. If nothing else, he has two more years. And "he wanted to help Todoroki" doesn't fly either if he has to destroy himself to that extent.
He definitely wasn't gonna walk off the bounds, forfeit, or let himself get it voluntarily by Todoroki, so there was no way he was gonna give it up like that. He wanted to win above all else.
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Old 2017-06-03, 10:53   Link #438
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The episode went out of its way to explain that the endurance match would not be to Todoroki's advantage. But I guess it's better to just ignore facts to justify one's viewpoint.
No, it went out of its way to explain even he has limits. It also showed Deku breaking his own bones again and again. You think that doesn't come at a cost? It also showed Todoroki not acting rationally because he was angry. Instead of throwing all those big attacks, he should have gone with smaller, less costly ones, using the big ones only once in a while to keep Deku on his toes.

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He definitely wasn't gonna walk off the bounds, forfeit, or let himself get it voluntarily by Todoroki, so there was no way he was gonna give it up like that. He wanted to win above all else.
Which I consider a character flaw.
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Old 2017-06-03, 10:54   Link #439
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I realised that my stance on this loss is slightly different from Uraraka's. So I tried to think about why this is. Maybe the difference here is that Deku wasn't being pragmatic at all? Making it feel like he wasn't in this to win? Even though he was? I don't know.

Maybe I'm just inspired by the fact that he ended up putting more value in saving Todoroki than in defeating him.
I would have thought more credible if Uraraka beat Bakugo than if Deku beat Todoroki, frankly. Deku's Quirk is completely imbalanced, right now. This episode was absolutely awesome, but in a way the fight itself stretched my suspension of disbelief more than Uraraka's.

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Or he'd have won by just spamming ice attacks until Deku had jelly for bones.

That's what I don't like about Deku. It's one thing to sacrifice himself because lives are in danger. It's another to do so to win a mere school event. And think of the position it puts his opponents in.

The thing that is even less understandable is actual adults endorsing this behaviour of his and not reprimanding him. Hell, in general, the way they encourage these kids to fight to near-death because they can be healed anyway and keep putting pressure on them makes it look like their concerns for their safety are only a facade. This is not supposed to be an SAS training camp, it's a high school, even if for superheroes. But yeah, obviously shonen logic applies. In many ways this would make more sense if these were all young, 18+ people but not kids.
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Old 2017-06-03, 11:00   Link #440
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well, despite being quite smart, Deku is actually not quite bright when it comes to himself. Times and times again, Deku has the tendency to only focus on what's in front of him without regard to the consequences or whatsoever, a "tunnel vision" mentality I'd even say.

And this is an issue that has been brought up over and over again by many people (Recovery Girl, Eraserhead), especially when Deku keeps destroying his body like that.
And All Might is also partly at fault here. IMO, despite being the no.1 hero that has inspire many people, All Might is a sh*tty teacher. Despite being aware of Deku's shortcomings when it comes to using One for All, All Might hasn't done much in term of guiding him, and instead kinda encouraged the kid to push beyond his limit, seriously like WTF:
"Young Midoriya, you go and get the number 1 place to become the next symbol of hero...even though I know you break your bones whenever you use One for All, but just do it!"

You guys see the issue here? Even we were fooled into going along with All Might's words. There was absolutely nothing wrong with what he actually said, but that was Deku he was talking to
Recovery Girl did call AM out for this but that ain't enough IMO.

For Todoroki though, I think he just wanted to show off his ice side, especially in front of the "Dad of the Year". In addition, we did know that it was very easy for him to get riled up whenever Endevour was involved, poor Sero had nothing to do with it but still got short end of the stick
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