2010-06-20, 19:24 | Link #2121 | |
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I would suppose if you want a "definitive" proof, Nanoha, if I remember correctly, could break off roots (purely organic matters, unless the Jewel Seed somehow managed to make it non-organic -_-) from a mutant tree with her magic shots in Season 1. |
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2010-06-20, 19:43 | Link #2122 |
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There was no even single time of unprotected target. "It's magic" here better suited for barrier jackets, not attack spells. After all bullets nothing more than kinetic strike too - and with area of effect small enough and speed high enough magical attack with kinetic side effect would do damage as like bullet on the top of normal.
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2010-06-21, 00:36 | Link #2124 |
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And if you desire more evidence of magic being capable of causing damage to a living creature, Chrono's Stinger Blade Execution Shift managed to stab into Zafira's arm, piercing flesh. Just like Fate's attack on the sand worm did.
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2010-06-21, 06:57 | Link #2129 |
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MWUHAHAHAHAHA!!!! DIE NONLETHAL MAGIC BULLSHIT, DIE!!!!!!!!!!
To continue drawing stakes through it's chest - Ancient/Old Belka was time where you would prefer to kill opponent or if (s)he would withdraw, recover and be trouble again, yet there is whole arsenal of pure magic combat spells that Hayate have - Misteltein, Diabolic Emission, Ragnarok (Breaker), etc... PS. Actually to think of it Hayate could shun personal combat because she simply can't make her best spells nonlethal and if she is not combat-rated nobody would send her to arrest if it's not dire need and she wouldn't need to kill. On other side she is bad in control - so even if they had safe mode she couldn't do it anyway...
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2010-06-21, 10:19 | Link #2130 |
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Think of it this way:
Magic = Hand phasers Phasers fire beams, and have Stun or Kill settings. And even on Stun, hitting someone too many times or hitting a sensitive spot still Kills. So does magic. Ignore the rest of the concerns. It is irrelevant.
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2010-06-21, 18:59 | Link #2134 |
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Any conjectures on the TSAB's method of Faster-Than-Light (FTL) travel? It seems to possibly use portals of some sort... Do you think it's a type of hyperspace? Or maybe subspace or sliptream space (Slipspace)? Or something entirely different?
Second: To those of you who know of the Halo verse. Read up on Halopedia's entry on Slipstream Space, and tell me if you think the usage of slipspace, and the methods used by UNSC and Covenant ships to enter and exit the slipstream (noting that UNSC methods for entering slipspace are much more brutish/haphazard/violent than Covenant methods - butcher knife compared to scalpel, and all), would be classified as the "dimensional disturbances" that the TSAB are usually tasked with investigating and mending. And if so, what the TSAB would do in response. For that matter, how would the TSAB look upon / think about / respond to the practically-one-sided massacre that is the Human-Covenant War? Or the Flood? Or the titanic Lost Logia network that is the Halo Array and the Ark? |
2010-06-21, 23:41 | Link #2135 | |
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Of course, if you want to go deeper and argue about magical lethality, it's very doubtful that a magical transformation would replace an organic being entirely with inorganic materials. The tree would still be partly organic, and magic very effectively killed both magical and natural parts of that mutant. Besides, why would they need to destroy a "fully magical" being when, I don't know, they can deploy an anti-magic field or something? Last edited by PhoenixFlare; 2010-06-22 at 00:07. |
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2010-06-22, 09:36 | Link #2136 |
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My, I sure opened a can of worms with this one. OK, OK, you got the point, magic can be used to kill organics. ^^
Magic is a nifty energy source that doesn't require bulky accumulators or fuel tanks. That would justify its use anywhere. ^^ As for bloody wars, Ancient Belkans used mass-based weaponry which can very well hurt organics. AFAIK half the flashbacks in ViVid feature soldiers with very non-magical swords and armor. ^^
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2010-06-22, 13:09 | Link #2139 |
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Which is wrong because it's NOT thread for discussions and theories. There are other threads for that (Magic and Tech in this case). This thread is for facts. If you would talk with facts it would be fitting here, but all you had is "but they did NOT show that it's exactly so and then there is theories 1,2,3,...,10 that..."
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