(L) Kazumi Magica - The Innocent Malice (Spinoff manga series)

[AuraTwilight]

Originally Posted by Shadow5YA

Spoiler for too late:

Kazumi's story begins a bit too late for her to become Walpurgisnacht. The witch is legendary to experienced Puella Magi. If Mami and Kyouko are aware of it, then there's no way Walpurgis can be a new phenomenon created by Kazumi.

And no, there hasn't been any hint that Walpurgisnacht can time travel. Just throwing that out there just in case.

Spoiler for Counterpoint:

However, Walpurgisnacht is treated more as an EVENT rather than a BEING; there could have been multiple Walpurgisnachts throughout Puella Magi history, and it's more of a category of exceptional, Bonus Boss-level witches, rather than the same witch causing a crisis throughout history.

Especially since...well...why would Walpurgisnacht stop destroying the world unless it were defeated?

[ndqanh_vn]

Well, I am still one of the people who clings to the theory that the origin of Walpurgisnacht should be related to Homura. It will made a nice thematic endless cycle of hope and despair, and works well with the whole series, at least in my opinion.

About the manga Kazumi...well, because it is not actually written by Gen, I found it hard to think of it as being canon. The story is not as well written either, and somehow I am supiscious that the author pretty much makes up things along the way while he's writing. But maybe it's just me. But the newest chapter really did not sell itself very well for me. I felt it hard to get what the characters are doing, why are they doing this, and why should I care what happen to them.

That's being said, I think the author might really try to build up a mass-corruption of Soul Gems. Maybe it will bring Walpurgisnatch, maybe not. But all the girl would probably become witches in later chapter. Satomi is the biggest candidate now.

[Witched]

Nah, i doubt that they're going to produce Walpurgisnacht after all this.

After all, think about the witches' minions!

[AuraTwilight]

About the manga Kazumi...well, because it is not actually written by Gen, I found it hard to think of it as being canon. The story is not as well written either, and somehow I am supiscious that the author pretty much makes up things along the way while he's writing. But maybe it's just me. But the newest chapter really did not sell itself very well for me. I felt it hard to get what the characters are doing, why are they doing this, and why should I care what happen to them.

It's written with Gen Urobuchi's supervision, though.

Nah, i doubt that they're going to produce Walpurgisnacht after all this.

After all, think about the witches' minions!

What about them?

[Sageblink]

Originally Posted by Witched

Nah, i doubt that they're going to produce Walpurgisnacht after all this.

After all, think about the witches' minions!

You mean this -walpurgisnacht- witch's shadow things that look like previous Puella magi ?

[Witched]

Originally Posted by Sageblink

You mean this -walpurgisnacht- witch's shadow things that look like previous Puella magi ?

Yeah. They strangely look like the original form of Puella Magis. Also, the Minions' forms and roles/duties were based on the Witches' desire, so I doubt that Kazumi had certain desires...

Though the only thoughts that can make me agree that Kazumi could turn into Walpurgisnacht is the fact that she can 'devour' the other clones. Also, this, because majority of her memories are 'fake' and don't belong to her. Then there's the fact that Kazumi has 'everyone's' abilities, so she'd be able to withstand most and certain attacks.

[AuraTwilight]

Yeah. They strangely look like the original form of Puella Magis. Also, the Minions' forms and roles/duties were based on the Witches' desire, so I doubt that Kazumi had certain desires...

I'm not exactly seeing the problem here. All of Kazumi's friends are Puella Magi, of course she'd like to be surrounded by her 'friends'.

Bear in mind that the Witch is a reflection of the person at the time of their changing into a Witch, so in Walpurgis' case, we can't judge whether Kazumi's mindset matches up until the moment she hypothetically becomes Walpurgis.

And we'd have to weigh in the psychological influences of everyone merging into Walpurgisnacht too.

[Witched]

Originally Posted by AuraTwilight

I'm not exactly seeing the problem here. All of Kazumi's friends are Puella Magi, of course she'd like to be surrounded by her 'friends'.

Bear in mind that the Witch is a reflection of the person at the time of their changing into a Witch, so in Walpurgis' case, we can't judge whether Kazumi's mindset matches up until the moment she hypothetically becomes Walpurgis.

And we'd have to weigh in the psychological influences of everyone merging into Walpurgisnacht too.

Doubt that everyone's going to turn into witches at the same time (Especially with Satomi) (Yet).

Though it's probably understandable that other Soul Gems in the museum might either turn into Witches/Grief Seeds (through unknown means) or get destroyed along the process (of Walpurgisnacht).

Thinking about witches, there barely any description on Michiru Kazusa's witch form. And the beginning of Chapter 14 makes it look like that Michiru had regretted getting the Pleiades to contract, for a moment.

Spoiler for Random Prediction on What's Next:

NOTE: This prediction might create further confusion and unintentional spoilers, as the idea how the story will roll out is created by my own ideas and how everything is so far. Readers are advised to not complain after realizing how it could possibly make sense, though it may be all false. Gotta wait for a month or so to disprove all this, eh?

Spoiler for This Idea:

Kazumi's obviously going to survive this, either by devouring the corpse in front of her or having Mirai jumping in and helping her out, though Satomi will be all like "Saki loves Michiru" to make her feel jealous. She'll end up helping her out because "she won't be forgiven by Saki" if she doesn't do it.

Then later on..

The other members of Pleiades are trying to heal/restore Kazumi/Saki and starts discussing things about the future. When Kazumi wakes up, she probably will be given an explanation, then learns the truth of everything.

Kazumi feels betrayed by everyone else for lying and not telling the truth about the whole thing to her, then probably goes solo to hunt down Satomi, who went solo as well.

Then, Kazumi finds Satomi and tries to kill her (while on a rampage), but the other Pleaides will come in and try to get the two to stop fighting each other, though Kazumi will most likely overpower the whole group. Eventually, most of their Soul Gems would most likely be almost 100% corrupted, then Kazumi will stop after starting to mourn over her own errors and such. Then there goes more talking, tears and regrets, then everyone's Soul Gem would then transform into Grief Seeds and evolve into Witches. Kazumi will fall into despair as well, though she'll have to destroy every single one of the Witches made by the Pleaides or absorb their Witch forms and become Walpurgisnacht.

In an alternative case, Kazumi would probably try absorbing their grief/bodies while they're still Puella Magi by transferring those thoughts/memories to herself and become Walpurgisnacht right there.

And then another thought, would be that they all turn into Witches at the same time, though Kazumi's despair overpowers the others and ends up 'absorbing' them by getting them into her barrier, then they all be mixed together then.. There's Walpurgisnacht.

[AuraTwilight]

Doubt that everyone's going to turn into witches at the same time

Do they HAVE to?

[Diveman]

Originally Posted by AuraTwilight

Do they HAVE to?

they will eventually, that's the destiny of every magical girl except Madoka.

[AuraTwilight]

I mean, do they have to turn at the same time in order to be part of Walpurgis.

[Shadow5YA]

Originally Posted by Diveman

they will eventually, that's the destiny of every magical girl except Madoka.

and Homura.

Also, they don't have to turn into witches. They can make sure they die before that happens, either by accident (Mami), by suicide (Kyouko vs Oktavia), or by assisted suicide.

That's why I have some hope that Kazumi comes to terms with what she is and somehow sacrifices herself before she loses control.

[Diveman]

The worst thing is, Im 99,9% sure we wont get a happy ending off this.

[Sageblink]

Originally Posted by Diveman

The worst thing is, Im 99,9% sure we wont get a happy ending off this.

Well... It only depends of Madoka. If she come and erase Kazumi before she turns into a witch, then the whole story is erased / changed. And the whole manga would become pointless.

So i'm hoping for a conclusion to this story before Godoka starts messing up with fate.

[Diveman]

That's what I mean, im pretty sure Gen won't allow for a sugar and rainbows ending.

[Shadow5YA]

It can still be bittersweet, like Kyouko's kamikaze on Sayaka. Just because there is no Godoka yet doesn't mean Witch end is a certainty. As I've said before, they can go out in a blaze of glory before that happens.

[shanazumi01]

Theory:I think Satomi will end up as Insane Mami.She will be killed i think.
Or
Maybe Satomi is being brainwashed by someone maybe Oriko(lol).I think she is dead.She was the Witch Yuuri.Maybe Yuuri transfer her soul to her body.Then she can control Satomi's body and will use it to calculate the Pleaides' actions

[deadsea]

Hi!
Some pics

Spoiler for OMG:

I can't understand was going on!!

[AuraTwilight]

Spoiler for Welp:

Satomi goes Witch, to the surprise of NO ONE.

[Dark Wing]

But why? Was there any reason given? Did she just give up hope?