[Gundam 00F/P/V/I/N] Sidestory Discussion

[Rising Dragon]

Originally Posted by X207

thank you very much, you answered my question correctly. i'll go with the red stickers for my 1.5 gundam. i'll go with orange for the tau drive if the paint cooperates (its more runny). didnt the GNZ line in se2 use orange tau drives? what happened to the 1 gundam with the original gn drive?

It was defeated by the Sefer Rasiel, and the GN-Drive returned to Celestial Being sometime after, if I'm not mistaken. And yes, the GNZ series of mobile suits all used orange Tau Drives.

[SonicSP]

-All GNZ types use orange Tau Drives in S2. Actually everybody sort of did with the exception Arche and Drei.

-As for the actual 1 Gundam frame with the original Drive? The mech was defeated and CB recovered the Drive (this was pre-S1 so they'd pretty much have to), since that Drive long with two others were hijacked from therem to be used one the 1 Gundam and two GN Cannons by Beside in his "rebellion". CB defeated them and manage to recover the Drives, fortunately.

[X207]

Originally Posted by Rising Dragon

It was defeated by the Sefer Rasiel, and the GN-Drive returned to Celestial Being sometime after, if I'm not mistaken. And yes, the GNZ series of mobile suits all used orange Tau Drives.

Originally Posted by SonicSP

-All GNZ types use orange Tau Drives in S2. Actually everybody sort of did with the exception Arche and Drei.

-As for the actual 1 Gundam frame with the original Drive? The mech was defeated and CB recovered the Drive (this was pre-S1 so they'd pretty much have to), since that Drive long with two others were hijacked from therem to be used one the 1 Gundam and two GN Cannons by Beside in his "rebellion". CB defeated them and manage to recover the Drives, fortunately.

thank you sonicsp and rising dragon. im not very familiar with the countless gundam universe variations. i find the stories rather intersting but i cant always find the sources to read about the variations often. its usually third hand i hear about all the variations. it looks like my 3 GNZ kits i have all have wrong colour for the gn tau drive. i made them all red to match Drei, too late to bother with it now i guess.

[SonicSP]

Originally Posted by X207

thank you sonicsp and rising dragon. im not very familiar with the countless gundam universe variations. i find the stories rather intersting but i cant always find the sources to read about the variations often. its usually third hand i hear about all the variations. it looks like my 3 GNZ kits i have all have wrong colour for the gn tau drive. i made them all red to match Drei, too late to bother with it now i guess.

Not too bad actually. Its VERY VERY hard to replicate the real color of the orange Tau Drive in real life gunpla. The orange Drive when it apears in the anime colorwise the most complex I believe.

They sort of start of as orange-yellow at the Drive, as in the the glow is orange yellow but they sort of dissolve into red the further the particles move away from the emission source. They just appear to be orange at the glow near the Drive and when used as beams but each dot when further away appears to be more red-orange.

The way its depicted is also much more complex than the red Drives, which mostly just uses the red color with black hues in a more simplified animation pattern as the particles are released.

[mike_s_6]

Originally Posted by Gundam Meister

So what do you think 00A going to be about

I didn't save the photo but I suppose it's been posted here before too. I saw one photo in 4chan, and I remember it said that it's a comics version of the whole movie drawn by the group Kaishaku (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaishaku_%28manga_group%29).

I don't know what to think of it, but I'm pretty sure we'll get to see this before we get to see any video of the movie, so I'll take it!

EDIT: Oh, so Sonic posted about it in the previous page.

[SonicSP]

To put into context what mike just said.........00A is a manga version of the movie done by the group mike said.

So yea, maybe we will get to see the "movie" in some form. The TV manga adaptations are terrible but I'm sure a 2 hour movie would be easier to mangarize than a 50 episode TV series.

[LoweGear]

00 Qan[T] Full Saber



The GN Sword IV seems to be one large sword that has 3 smaller ones attached to it

[Gundam Meister]

Originally Posted by LoweGear

00 Qan[T] Full Saber



The GN Sword IV seems to be one large sword that has 3 smaller ones attached to it

That Looks Awesome it look better than the normal OO QAN [T]

[KaiDamien]

Damn the new sword looks awesome. It would better if the small sword is not hiding behind the big sword.

[GundamFan]

I'm loving the new sword.

[GN0010 Nosferatu]

I like it! Shame it's not in the movie, it completes the design quite well.

[solidvanz]

■機動戦士ガンダム00I
9/18発売の「ガンダム00エース」から新連載
「機動戦士ガンダム00I　2314」がスタート。
2314の主役CBに所属した「超兵」レナードと
その相棒・デルフィーヌ。

本編はP359から。
今月号は最終回。#I14「来るべき対話のために」
軌道エレベーターの崩壊を止めようとしてピラーシステムに介入する
ラーズを邪魔しようとする者がいた。レイヴがラーズのサポートに
ガンダムで出撃するがラーズ一人では巨大システムをコントロールしきれず
徐々にバランスは崩れ始める。
その時テリシラがブリュンを介してラーズをウェーダにアクセスさせることを
思いつく。そしてラーズがウェーダに意識を向けている間、レイヴがアイズガンダムで
ピラーを支えた。無事ラーズとウェーダのリンクが成立し、喜ぶレイヴ。
しかしその瞬間にビサイド・ペインの思考がレイヴを浸食して肉体を乗っ取った。
アイズガンダムで6人の監視者を殺そうと銃を向けるビサイド。
ところがその場にこの行動を予測していたフォン・スパークが介入した。
フォンのガンダムになぶられるアイズガンダム。
その行動を見てヒクサーが気づく。
フォンの意図はレイヴとビサイドの決着をつけさせることにあったのだと。
「お前がビサイドを自分で打ち破れ」テリシラがレイヴに呼びかける。
ビサイドとレイヴ。闘いの末、ビサイドの思考は打ち消された。

それを見計らったかのように現れたイノベイドと連邦軍。
ヒリングらは闘いの意思はないとフォン・レイヴに通達する。
ただしその代わりにアイズガンダムを要求すると。
フォンの助言にしたがってレイヴはアイズガンダムを連邦軍に引き渡した。

その後。
6人の監視者は人間社会に身を置いている。
そして新たな6人目は「人とマシンとイノベイドによる小さな三位一体」が
完成しているフォン・スパークをオブザーバーとして迎えることが提案された。
さらに時は流れラーズは個別の行動を選択し、レイヴもまた監視者として
正確なジャッジをするために世界を観る旅を続けている。
レイヴは語る。
「人は日々進化し続ける。来るべき対話のために」

It seems that Gundam 00I 2314 will be appeared next month (I think it will be the movie's side story) after the conclusion of Gundam 00I.

From 4chan:

00I last chapter #14
To complete the 6 companions after Regene got demoted, Fon Spark is chosen as an Observer.

今月はMISSON 010「インスペクション」
刹那専用ガンダムの開発が続けられていた。
ダブルオーに装備されていた太陽炉は両方とも破壊されたため
イアンが木星に技術スタッフを派遣し、2年間で新しく2基の太陽炉を作った
。
完成したドライヴが組み込まれるガンダムは「ツイン」を意味する「T」が
形式番号にも組み込まれ、GNT-0000ダブルオークアンタと名付けられた。

It is MISSION 010 "Inspection" this month.
The development of Setsuna's personal Gundam continued.
Ian sent the technical staff to the Jupiter because both of the solar furnace with which 00 was equipped were destroyed, and two solar furnaces were made newly in two years.
"T" that meant "Twin" was built into the style number, and Gundam into which the completed drive was built was named GNT-0000 00 Qan[T].

Update:

電撃ホビーマガジン

機動戦士ガンダム00N
P98-
PMCトラストという組織の解説。


■機動戦士ガンダム00P SPECIAL EDITION
P106-109
今月はFILE NO.S05「TYPE DARK」
6人の仲間集めをしていた時期かつアニューがツインドライヴの
設計データをイノベイド側に持ち帰った頃のストーリー。

ヴェーダとリンクしていたリボンズはビサイドがヴェーダに
アイズガンダムの量産化を進言していたデータを見つける。
ビサイドはリボンズと異なり、イノベイドでガンダムマイスターが
構成された時に備えて「アイズガンダム　タイプダーク」の量産を
進言していたのだ。
リボンズは自らのリボーンズガンダムの後ろにアイズガンダムタイプダークが
居並ぶ光景を想像する。

羽音たらくさんによるイノベイドたちの描きおろしイラストつき。

[SonicSP]

Sigh.........well I cant help it. One of my predictions was a retcon of some sort in the future soemhow since the accounts of the Drive Inventory dont add up (tot he default 5) but I didnt mention it very often because its in the lower end part of my probability table. I didnt know it would have come true and I was hoping it did not. I will be slightly skeptical for the moment because Kouryakukan HAS gotten the Drive destruction count wrong before. (they mentioned it for 00V Senki 1 once in their summary when that statement was not in the actual chapter. Thus when mike analysed 00V senki4 herself she found the one Drive gone thing some of us were shocked)

If this 2 Drive thing gone was true, I assume it was destroyed in the ensuing explosion during the 0 Gundam battle which frankly did not look that deadly. The BS definitely missed the cone unlike the GN Sword Kai but an explosion is an explosion as they say.

Still.........now that I think of it, the BS DID go through the torso and THAT is where Exia's Drive is. It happened last time too with the GN Flag but perhaps this time they were not so lucky.

Another possible alternative is that they lost the Drive sometime in the timeskip after Ian's mention of the one Drive lost in 00V Senki 4.......somehow.

[ZeddNL]

Or maybe the Drive left for 007Swords somehow got wrecked.

I mean we can't be sure yet.

[SonicSP]

From Homeless's initial translation, thats not the case for sure. "It happened during the fight with the Innovade who called themselves Innovators".

Aka it occured at the end of S2. I'm trying to get more verification on the translation.

[velocity7]

Sometimes sidestories aren't too great with keeping continuity/canon, but yes 00I's description there does say that specifically both of the GN drives were destroyed.

[Rising Dragon]

Is a little consistency too much to ask for? >.>

[GN0010 Nosferatu]

Why yes, yes it is.

[SonicSP]

Originally Posted by velocity7

Sometimes sidestories aren't too great with keeping continuity/canon, but yes 00I's description there does say that specifically both of the GN drives were destroyed.

Its 00V Senki by the way. Sorry I didnt mentioned it earlier.

While its true that they have been problems here and there.........they're usually small matters like model numbers......not Jovian semi perpetual hard to make solar furnaces.

Originally Posted by Rising Dragon

Is a little consistency too much to ask for? >.>

Originally Posted by GN0010 Nosferatu

Why yes, yes it is.

According to Homeless, the kouryakukan summry of senki 4 suggest that multiple Drives are destroyed. Although at the same time their summary of senki 1 (which has no Drive detruction in the actual chapter, as Deacon's scanlations go) , they infer that two Drives wer'e destroyed. (hence why some of us including myself went "whaaaa" nack when the chapter came out and mike did the direct translation for us).


mike may have gotten an error possibly or there's a retcon. mike returns to the gundam 00 fandom at the end of every month since thats when all the new stuff comes out. I'm hoping to ask her to do a second reading of 00VSenki4 to see whether she sticks to her previous reading or whether she finds a mistake.


If somebody wants to verify the line that says it though, I would appretiate it. unlike the last pic, this one does not pinpoint the line but if somebody feels like doing it, I'm not going to complain

Scans of 00V Senki Chapter 4:

Spoiler for sizewarning 00Vsenki4 pg1:

Spoiler for sizewarning 00Vsenki4 pg2:

Originally Posted by mike_s_6

...

They have lost one solar furnace in the Innovade battle. They considered several methods to cope up with it, and were actually implemented. One of these is the plan to start up the machine with a large type GN Condenser that is a large particle storage tank. As a substitute to the need for 00 to have two solar furnaces, they supposed it could sortie with one solar furnace plus a storage tank, or two storage tanks.

...

Though he dared not to say it, Ian had another concern. After the battle with the Innovades, it was said that many people in the world who have awoken as genuine Innovators like Setsuna seemed to appear. Although there is no positive proof of these people's existence, if they do exist, there is even a possibility that the GN particle's special state in Trans-am is experienced regardless of distance.

Even though Setsuna, the "real thing", is in front of their eyes, there are still many mysteries regarding Innovators. It is necessary to consider all these possibilities.

Because even the Earth Federation have machines that can Trans-am, even for a time they have experienced Trans-am. They can hope that they do not recognize it, but relying on luck for that is impossible to do.

Original link


Regardless.......this two Drive gone thing is fact....."for now".

[SonicSP]

Originally Posted by Arsarcana

Seems to be a retcon; the line in question is on the second image (which is actually the first page of the chapter) about halfway down the final column. 'In the battle with the Innovades, one precious solar furnace was lost'.

From mechatalk. So its looking more towards a retcon now it seems.