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Old 2010-10-06, 05:37   Link #1521
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What type of minority problems are you referring to? I've heard about the problems the Ainu have faced, which saddens me since they are a particularly interesting ethnic group (I'm especially intrigued by the theory that they have connection to Amerindians... you can certainly see the cultural similarities). They even have genetic similarities to the Andaman islanders, who are thought to represent the first migration of humans out of Africa.

Edit: Actually I found some short videos about the topic if anyone is interested in the Ainu's struggles in Japan. The second one even comes with some Engrish reporting, lol.
Well the connection with Amerindians is not that surprising, for if we consider the Bering Land bridge migration theory and a map, given the history of population in these areas, there's a clear continuum with Siberian peoples.


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And don't forget burakumin, which are a sizeable minority of native outcast.

Regarding the video, it was meh...

First we had the usual stereotypes regarding Japanese peoples and culture. I admit the eye enlarging function made me smile.

I really facepalmed when the fact on food and water strayed to heavy and out of place moralizing... (Bluefin tuna on the other hand is a classic).

Regarding suicide and prosperity... well it's also a quite common knowledge, and Japan is not that unique in this regard (South Koreans, Finns and Swiss would know about that).

And what the heck was that conclusion???
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Old 2010-10-09, 20:28   Link #1522
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The Shinsengumi seems to be quite prevalent in Japanese media, any particular reason why they are like that?
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Old 2010-10-10, 05:15   Link #1523
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The Shinsengumi seems to be quite prevalent in Japanese media, any particular reason why they are like that?
The end of the Edo period is said to be the dawn of the new era where Japan ushers into the western world from the east. This was not without resistance and bloodshed where terrorism clashes with the conservative Edo shogunate duels it out.
On one side we see Saigo, Katsura and Sakamoto wanting create a new democratic government with the Emperor as a symbol while the conservative Edo bureaucrats wanted to maintain the status quo.
Shinsengumi was the police force in the brutal Kyoto district where most terror cells operated, seen now as a symbol of the fading era of samurais and Katana clashing duels.
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Old 2010-10-10, 17:14   Link #1524
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The end of the Edo period is said to be the dawn of the new era where Japan ushers into the western world from the east. This was not without resistance and bloodshed where terrorism clashes with the conservative Edo shogunate duels it out.
On one side we see Saigo, Katsura and Sakamoto wanting create a new democratic government with the Emperor as a symbol while the conservative Edo bureaucrats wanted to maintain the status quo.
Shinsengumi was the police force in the brutal Kyoto district where most terror cells operated, seen now as a symbol of the fading era of samurais and Katana clashing duels.
So it would be safe to say that they are the last romanticism aspect of Japan?
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Old 2010-10-10, 17:45   Link #1525
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So it would be safe to say that they are the last romanticism aspect of Japan?
Yeah I think you can say that.
To the Japanese they are the last symbol of the samurai age with all the katana wielding glories.
It's interesting since between Miyamoto Musashi and the Shinsengumi there are not many notable samurais. I guess it shows how peaceful the Edo period was.
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Old 2010-10-24, 19:50   Link #1526
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Hey, does anyone know what the Japanese find scary in terms of death or being killed?

For Halloween, I'm dressing up as a dead geisha and I want to be culturally coordinated in terms of what is considered to be frightening because sometimes, especially in movies, we focus more on what we fear more than what that culture truly fears.
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Old 2010-10-25, 01:52   Link #1527
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Hey, does anyone know what the Japanese find scary in terms of death or being killed?


I swear, if anyone comes trick or treating at my door in a Sadako costume,
I'll hammer her first and ask questions later. o_o


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For Halloween, I'm dressing up as a dead geisha and I want to be culturally coordinated in terms of what is considered to be frightening because sometimes, especially in movies, we focus more on what we fear more than what that culture truly fears.
Check out the short-lived Yokai thread, especially the link to Japanese urban myths that milan kyuubi provided.
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Old 2010-10-25, 06:26   Link #1528
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I swear, if anyone comes trick or treating at my door in a Sadako costume,
I'll hammer her first and ask questions later. o_o


hahahaha my hubby is 1/2 Japanese and has that thick straight black hair (down to his waist); I tease him EVERY year about either dressing up as Sadako, or letting me toss elf ears on him...

hasn't worked in 14 years though, but I'll keep trying!

I have to say I've never seen someone dressed as sadako though...
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Old 2010-10-29, 21:10   Link #1529
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One possible reason the samurai did some of the numbnut things that history records them doing:
samurai-kids-lead-poisoning-cosmetics
http://content.usatoday.com/communit...ng-cosmetics/1
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Old 2010-10-31, 18:16   Link #1530
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Does Japan have a Halloween equivalent?
The reason I'm wondering is since they are already a pretty westernized country, and Christianity is moderately popular there, I was thinking that maybe they developed there own version of Halloween.
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Old 2010-11-01, 07:00   Link #1531
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Does Japan have a Halloween equivalent?
The reason I'm wondering is since they are already a pretty westernized country, and Christianity is moderately popular there, I was thinking that maybe they developed there own version of Halloween.
Christianity's values and rules are virtually unknown.
However commericalised Christian holidays from America (it being their main influence) is a must.
They celebrate Halloween as they do Christian weddings, Christmas and Valentine's Day, with all the glitz and glamour without having a clue about its origins (nor do I think they care, they just take the fun).
Then again, I doubt many in the West are aware that Nov 1st is "All Hallows Day" either... :\

Mid Sep is the time for department stores to get their Halloween displays up (as of today, it's all changed to Christmas now), October is the month where Disneyland go Halloween crazy and school kids design their calanders to themes of halloween.
It's just something to mark October by methinks, but as it is with the West, Halloween = open cosplay day.
This year it was on a Saturday, so lots of parties in clubs and so on and many coplayers in the streets of Shibuya and Harajuku when I walked past last weekend

Now onto lovers day or wedding proposal day!
*cough*
I mean Japanese "Christmas".
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Old 2010-11-01, 07:38   Link #1532
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Now onto lovers day or wedding proposal day!
*cough*
I mean Japanese "Christmas".
Can festivals be counted as lovers' day too?
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Old 2010-11-01, 08:00   Link #1533
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But then how many Christians really understand the meaning of said to be Christian holidays/celebrations?
For example Christmas, said to be the birthday of Christ but actually an adopted ritual of pagan origin celebrating the winter equinox to endorse pagans to convert to Christianity devised by the Roman Catholics.
Christ's birthday is now speculated by scholars to be sometime in mid April studying the biblical account comparing them with meteorological data and customs.
Halloween is also I believe a pagan celebration to celebrate year's harvest.
Exchange of rings is a Roman custom before Christianity set in.
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Old 2010-11-01, 18:57   Link #1534
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Does Japan have a Halloween equivalent?
The reason I'm wondering is since they are already a pretty westernized country, and Christianity is moderately popular there, I was thinking that maybe they developed there own version of Halloween.
Historically... Oban (in August) would come closer to "commemorating the dead and they might visit" ... a period when the veil between the supernatural and the natural is thinner. After all, that's the original tune of Samhain/Halloween (the Celt New Year).

As for the modern variant - kids have taken up the costume and trick'r'treat at least in the cities but it goes no deeper than that.

Christianity is not "popular" in Japan -- it barely shows up on the percentages. Some of the *holidays* (e.g. the commercial secular with a bit of pagan version of Christmas, Valentine's Day, etc) are popular.
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Old 2010-11-01, 19:44   Link #1535
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Another candidate would be new years day in some region where Namahage roams from house to house seeking bad children, another would be Setsubun on February 3rd celebrating the coming of Spring festival, throwing roasted soybeans to ward off the Oni out of the home. In cleaning up as part of bringing luck in, it is customary to eat roasted soybeans, one for each year of one's life, and in some areas, one for each year of one's life plus one more for bringing good luck for the year to come.
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Old 2010-11-02, 18:02   Link #1536
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If you mean by kids getting free candy, treats and toys, probably こどもの日 (kids day) or 七五三 (toddler's day).
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Old 2010-11-12, 18:32   Link #1537
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Robot plays her part in a Japanese play in a typecasting-of-the-good-kind

http://www.reuters.com/news/video/st...eoChannel=2602

(video article)
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Old 2010-11-20, 17:18   Link #1538
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Any region in Japan that uses word from other country? (except English). I saw one Korean show and in Jeju island some folks were speaking Korean with mixes of little Japanese word. So I am curious if there is a region that uses word from other country, mostly China and Korea, as a result of things like immigrants and the location.
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Old 2010-11-21, 08:07   Link #1539
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Any region in Japan that uses word from other country? (except English). I saw one Korean show and in Jeju island some folks were speaking Korean with mixes of little Japanese word. So I am curious if there is a region that uses word from other country, mostly China and Korea, as a result of things like immigrants and the location.
Gairaigo (外来語) is not only English. Don't forget baito/arubaito from German arbeit, abekku from French avec (albet with a different meaning), gomu from French gomme (eraser), etc. etc.

Not to mention the hundreds of thousands of kanji-based terms imported from China over a thousand years ago.

That said, I kind of get what you mean: a region with an especially high prevalence of more recent borrowings from Chinese and Korean due to immigration, trade and suchlike. I'm curious too

(Little known fact: just found out recently "ramen" is apparently a relatively recent loanward from Chinese! Of course I was always aware that we have the same word in Chinese, but I thought that both countries had been using the same word independently for a long time since Japanese ramen and Chinese lamian are nothing like each other.)
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Old 2010-11-21, 12:18   Link #1540
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Hm, I always thought "lamian" and "ramen" were the same thing?
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