2010-04-07, 13:37 | Link #581 |
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Itachi feared that Madara might get to Sasuke after he was dead yes, but that says nothing about Itachi fearing Madara but only how he might influence Sasuke once he has died by Sasuke's hand as he planned. Judging from how Madara reflected that there was no one to stop him now and how took control over Akutsaki openly after Itachi's death, I'd say Madara feared Itachi.
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2010-04-07, 20:17 | Link #582 | |
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2010-04-08, 10:57 | Link #584 |
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strongest were Pain, then Itachi I'm pretty sure
Madara can avoid damage via hax no jutsu, that about it (so far) rest are weaker, though still quite strong .. weakest I'd put Hidan if someone is fighting Pein 1v1, Pein is 100% fresh and he's aiming to kill, not capture (very different) then I dare say Pein > Madara-prime/Shodai/Itachi/Jiraiya even (if they know about all bodies then that can be debatable .. but if not it's pretty much a 100% kill for Pein) and being second only to Rikudou Sennin
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2010-04-08, 22:28 | Link #589 |
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That is because Hidan is not dead. His head was simply removed from his body, but his special ability alows him to live on in the darkness of that hole in the forest.
There's a nice parody of that in the "ridiculous Naruto picture thread".
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2010-04-09, 00:08 | Link #591 |
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If Kishi had wanted to bring him back he could have. Hidan has to constantly kill people to maintain his immortality but there was never a time limit stated. The fact that Hidan wasn't brought back is just a testimony to how weak Hidan actually was.
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2010-04-09, 01:10 | Link #592 | |
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By the time Kyuubi disappeared, Pain was basically out of energy and Naruto was all refreshed and at full power with his 3rd sage clone. |
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2010-04-09, 01:15 | Link #593 |
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Pein had to capture naruto, not kill - if he wanted to kill - he'd have done it after impaling his hands and before hinata interfered .. + he JUST OWNED all of Konoha solo
+ naruto still had to rely on uncontrollable Kyuubi & his father just happened to have that last resort ready to stop 9-th tail from opening I believe Pein > anyone else still
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2010-04-09, 04:31 | Link #594 | |
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Like so many others, I feel Hidan is the weakest by far. He relied on taijutsu to draw blood of his opponent to do his one-shot ceremony, but his taijutsu skills were not so hot (he got outmaneuvered by Shichimaru, who poured some blood on his weapon as he tried to kill him) and he had only one jutsu. All in all, Hidan was very weak by Akatsuki standards since the only thing he had going for him was his immortality with ordinary Taijutsu, one ninjutsu and no genjutsu. Hidan aside, Sasori was also vastly unimpressive...I had high hopes for him when he was introduced but he was out-puppeted by his grandmother. So much for the puppeter prodigy. |
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2010-04-09, 10:00 | Link #595 | |
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And contrary to Sasuke, Kakashi already shown when he faced Deidara that the only jutsu he had that could work at this kind of range was Kamui, the problem being that it's too taxing of a jutsu to work more than a couple of time and still let Kakashi be battle ready. And that's not addressing the fact that Kakashi lacks the ability of flight or the armor provided by the Cursed Seal. Let's put it that way, Kakashi was completely spent after saving his team and team Gai from Deidara's explosive clone, now imagine that Deidara was fresh when they started to batle and thus neither clayless or armless. What could Kakashi had done against Deidara resuming the fight? Nothing. They would all have died there with the next explosion. Story-wise I think Sasori, Kakazu and Deidara were about the same level of overall power with completely different fighting styles which made them more or less suited to fight certain type of opponents. But realistically speaking Deidara was probably the most lethal character of the entire show. He was basically a strategic bomber in a world void of any real anti-aircraft warfare. Taka were never really Akatsuki members, they were much like Sasori's underlings sacrificed to slow down the Gaara's rescue team. They wore the cloak for a little time but that's it. |
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2010-04-09, 10:35 | Link #596 |
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I think the reason Hidan was accepted in Akatsuki was because of his capturing skills. After all, all he needed to do was get a small amount of blood, and with that he could injure a jinchuuriki to the point where he or she couldn't fight anymore. He was probably the most suited guy for that job.
Now that Akatsuki has been revived, it depends on if they retain their techniques. If Nagato still has the Rinnegan and the techniques that come with it (including mass ress), he's definitely the strongest now.
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2010-04-09, 10:41 | Link #597 |
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Lol, if Nagato has mass ress as a zombie, could he bring back his own body and that of all the akatsuki making them no longer zombies?
Afraid it doesn't work like that. If I'm not mistaken he could only bring back those who he recently killed himself (the souls that got ripped out all seemed to end up trapped in that strange summon). So unless he has some reason to bring back people he kills from now on, that mass ress tech is rather pointless now... assuming he can still do it at all as a zombie. |
2010-04-09, 13:55 | Link #600 |
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I don't know, it is just a resurrection technique after all. Is it actually confirmed somewhere that the people brought back to life have to obey the one who resurrected them? Perhaps Shodaime and Niidaime just did it because they felt it was morally correct... Or whatever... It sounded like they had quite an attitude, talking all like "this kid summoned us?".
Anyway, even if Kabuto owns them, I think he could "give" them to Madara, or tell them they're free or whatever. If they keep their personalities, I don't even see how Deidara for example is going to obey Kabuto. Or Sasori, who owned Kabuto first. Can you see the irony?
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