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cyberdemon · 2011-07-10, 18:10

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Originally Posted by crossguy

In Ch 7,(p16) Tama tells Nagi the Cape Maidens are sacrifices, to give their bodies to the gods.
But Karin in Ch12(p7) says " It's been hundreds of years, why did he show up now!" That tends to beat up the idea that there is direct generational linage- Bob was a DG, so his boy Billy Bob's
one too. That just doesn't seem to happen. There's a whole lot of back story in this tale that cries out to be explained. Ooba's relationship with Karin and Rinne. How did Nagi's Dad meet his Mom. Was Ooba the former chief maiden, did the love of the Dragon God for an Island maiden REQUIRE an actual human sacrifice... Yeah, You guys get it too. Lots of don't know.

how exactly does that beat up the idea of direct generational lineage?

The Sandman · 2011-07-10, 22:00

Calling it: Shizuku and Soyogi both interrupt. It turns into a four-way. Everybody wins, especially the readers.

Fran~ · 2011-07-10, 22:47

the readers???.... especially Nagi!!!

crossguy · 2011-07-10, 23:25

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Originally Posted by cyberdemon

how exactly does that beat up the idea of direct generational lineage?

Because it implys that the Dragon God has been gone for more than one generation.
and even if folks on a small fishing/farming island have longer lives, the thought is there that the DG isn't someones' great gram-pa. Karin's thoughts imply a long time between appearances. Of course, that still doesn't answer the OTHER questions.
Is Nagi's dad even from the Island? Etc....

cyberdemon · 2011-07-11, 00:13

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Originally Posted by crossguy

Because it implys that the Dragon God has been gone for more than one generation.
and even if folks on a small fishing/farming island have longer lives, the thought is there that the DG isn't someones' great gram-pa. Karin's thoughts imply a long time between appearances. Of course, that still doesn't answer the OTHER questions.
Is Nagi's dad even from the Island? Etc....

i see nothing there saying it can't be possible. So far it shows that each of the current maidens are in some way related to older ones. so it give some hint at it being handed down in families. Soyogi and Karin with their grandmother, Shizuku with her mother. Not to mention it is said that maiden only give birth to girls with the exception of when the DG is born. so it makes sense that those girls go on to become the next maidens. And since the maidens are required to have sex with the DG it came be implied that children with the previous ones are possible and so the line from there continues for several generations normally after that until the next DG appears.

so it is quite possible.

GrrDraxin · 2011-07-12, 19:37

There is also the line that Ooba once said to Nagi that how they knew HE was the next DG was because the previous one died the same day Nagi was born. So one could say that it skips a few generations and all the maidens are born until one bears a male child that is born the same day the last dies.

It could be coincidence, or it's just that to have a series of events play out in perfect alignment with legend probably deduced Nagi as the DG. I doubt the Dragon God is a thing that happens every few hundred years, but is passed down through the Cape maiden's bloodlines, or there are other more specific qualifications to it that have yet to be said of. In any case, Nagi might want to snoop around those legends and learn just what it MEANS to be the Dragon God. I bet there might be a little training he may have to do to fit better into the role, unless his humble nature is all that's required.

In my opinion, Nagi isn't suspicious enough of the island traditions to even question them at the moment, but I'm sure once he hears and/or suspects some foul threads in those legends and traditions, he might take some initiative and investigate them much more closely. That teacher of theirs could come in handy if she plants the right seed of doubt in Nagi. There has to be more to the Maidens and the Dragon God than Ooba is letting on.

I would hope "favor" isn't what Nagi and Karin are heading into at this moment, because that makes Karin the winner by semi-foul tactics before letting the other 2 get their turns with him. If there is another means, like a marriage proposal, then that would be different, and that would give the others a few more shots to claim the prize.

cyberdemon · 2011-07-12, 19:53

if i was the author i would've had Soyogi go first. she as it is has the least chance of being end girl outside a harem route so there would be less issues with having her go first

crossguy · 2011-07-12, 23:54

The Best part of Forum is the amount of thought in the postings.

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Originally Posted by cyberdemon

i see nothing there saying it can't be possible.

Ya know, I hadn't looked at it that way, but your point was well made. Ch 52 is the pivotal point in what happens in the series. And there is an interesting preamble in the first chapter, BOTH about reincarnation/being reborn. The author has a way of slipping all manner of points past me. I still agree that nobody but Ooba knows what the heck is going to happen.
I also thought about the intro's quote "and those gods are overflowing with love." since the Maidens are also local deities, this could get interesting....
I still still think the author will take the high road morally, but.

crossguy · 2011-08-12, 23:24

I still have 3 quotes that bug me in this tale. There has to be some reconciliation to them.
1. Karin in Ch12(p7) says " It's been hundreds of years, why did he show up now!"
2. Rinne in Ch 9(p20) says" You don't really have to do anything."
3. Rinne in Ch 52(p13) says" NiiNii, Might you also..." (In fact, her extended dialog starting with her asking Nagi what he thought of the ceremony still gives me the willies.)
Any thoughts about ties?

MAX_COLA_POWER! · 2011-08-12, 23:26

Has it been...2 months yet...@.@, did they score?

Johnny · 2011-08-24, 15:41

Spoiler for ch 85:

MAX_COLA_POWER! · 2011-08-24, 16:13

Spoiler for ch 85:

Khalil · 2011-08-24, 17:46

Pictures speak louder than words.

Spoiler for ch.85:

Lexxus · 2011-08-24, 18:15

haha lmao

aliasxn · 2011-08-24, 18:31

Spoiler for :

MAX_COLA_POWER! · 2011-08-24, 19:43

Spoiler for Karin fans' reactions:

Thank you^^.

ZODDGUTS · 2011-08-24, 20:59

Well that's one way to cop-out of this situation. Would have preferred the "accidentally jizz myself before I got to do anything" scene.

MAX_COLA_POWER! · 2011-08-24, 21:05

Looks like the Dragon God's cherry, rather than popped (sunglasses) is still on top, YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!

cedec0 · 2011-08-25, 00:09

Where did the spoiler image come from? I don't quite get what is going on... (well I get what is going on but I don't understand WHY it is going on).

I would really like to see the rest of the chapter...

Aesthetic Shampoo · 2011-08-25, 00:38

Damn. So much for the first harem to have sex with development.

2011-07-10, 22:47	Link #1303
Fran~ floating away... Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Beyond World's End	the readers???.... especially Nagi!!! __________________ Improving my english ^^

2011-07-12, 19:37	Link #1306
GrrDraxin Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Empire of Lolitannia (as Ambassador) Age: 45	There is also the line that Ooba once said to Nagi that how they knew HE was the next DG was because the previous one died the same day Nagi was born. So one could say that it skips a few generations and all the maidens are born until one bears a male child that is born the same day the last dies. It could be coincidence, or it's just that to have a series of events play out in perfect alignment with legend probably deduced Nagi as the DG. I doubt the Dragon God is a thing that happens every few hundred years, but is passed down through the Cape maiden's bloodlines, or there are other more specific qualifications to it that have yet to be said of. In any case, Nagi might want to snoop around those legends and learn just what it MEANS to be the Dragon God. I bet there might be a little training he may have to do to fit better into the role, unless his humble nature is all that's required. In my opinion, Nagi isn't suspicious enough of the island traditions to even question them at the moment, but I'm sure once he hears and/or suspects some foul threads in those legends and traditions, he might take some initiative and investigate them much more closely. That teacher of theirs could come in handy if she plants the right seed of doubt in Nagi. There has to be more to the Maidens and the Dragon God than Ooba is letting on. I would hope "favor" isn't what Nagi and Karin are heading into at this moment, because that makes Karin the winner by semi-foul tactics before letting the other 2 get their turns with him. If there is another means, like a marriage proposal, then that would be different, and that would give the others a few more shots to claim the prize. __________________

2011-08-24, 15:41	Link #1311
Johnny Working the bags... Join Date: Mar 2009	Spoiler for ch 85: Nagi gets cockblocked by.......himself...

2011-08-24, 16:13	Link #1312
MAX_COLA_POWER! Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Puerto Rico	Spoiler for ch 85: What's wrong? Did KLGChaos' morale cross the 4th wall and suddenly get into Nagi's head and say, if you do this, you're a womanizer!, YOU SHOULD PICK SHIZUKU! YOU'LL BE A PLAYER AND I'LL CURSE YOU FOREVER! WHOOOOOOO!

2011-08-24, 18:31	Link #1315
aliasxn Eye for an Eye Join Date: Apr 2008	Spoiler for : ROLF this was embarrassing. __________________

2011-07-10, 22:00	Link #1302
The Sandman Member Join Date: Feb 2006	Calling it: Shizuku and Soyogi both interrupt. It turns into a four-way. Everybody wins, especially the readers.

2011-07-12, 19:53	Link #1307
cyberdemon Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007	if i was the author i would've had Soyogi go first. she as it is has the least chance of being end girl outside a harem route so there would be less issues with having her go first

2011-08-12, 23:24	Link #1309
crossguy Confused. As usual. Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Flatlander.	I still have 3 quotes that bug me in this tale. There has to be some reconciliation to them. 1. Karin in Ch12(p7) says " It's been hundreds of years, why did he show up now!" 2. Rinne in Ch 9(p20) says" You don't really have to do anything." 3. Rinne in Ch 52(p13) says" NiiNii, Might you also..." (In fact, her extended dialog starting with her asking Nagi what he thought of the ceremony still gives me the willies.) Any thoughts about ties?

2011-08-12, 23:26	Link #1310
MAX_COLA_POWER! Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Puerto Rico	Has it been...2 months yet...@.@, did they score?

2011-08-24, 17:46	Link #1313
Khalil Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2011	Pictures speak louder than words. Spoiler for ch.85:

2011-08-24, 18:15	Link #1314
Lexxus YES! Hahahaha Join Date: Jul 2011 Age: 34	haha lmao

2011-08-24, 19:43	Link #1316
MAX_COLA_POWER! Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Puerto Rico	Spoiler for Karin fans' reactions: iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiimPOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOTEEEEE EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEENCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!shakes fist in the air Thank you^^.

2011-08-24, 20:59	Link #1317
ZODDGUTS Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005	Well that's one way to cop-out of this situation. Would have preferred the "accidentally jizz myself before I got to do anything" scene.

2011-08-24, 21:05	Link #1318
MAX_COLA_POWER! Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Puerto Rico	Looks like the Dragon God's cherry, rather than popped (sunglasses) is still on top, YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!

2011-08-25, 00:09	Link #1319
cedec0 Member Join Date: Jun 2008	Where did the spoiler image come from? I don't quite get what is going on... (well I get what is going on but I don't understand WHY it is going on). I would really like to see the rest of the chapter...

2011-08-25, 00:38	Link #1320
Aesthetic Shampoo Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Age: 30	Damn. So much for the first harem to have sex with development.