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2011-01-02, 12:40
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2011-01-02, 12:57
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Seitokai no Ichizon was galaxies ahead of Yakuindomo in terms of subtlety, plotting and character development - for me, Yakuindomo was a mediocre echo of Ichizon. Just goes to show how personal tastes vary when it comes to comedy especially.
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I don't quite buy the notion that it's too soon either, as there have been many examples to the contrary. Of course it could just be a matter of sucking a little more life out of the S1 DVD/BD sales, but at 15+ plus per volume, most studios would already kill for those numbers. I still think a second season is an inevitability but I'd love to see it happen in 2011.
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2011-01-02, 13:22
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An anime based on a light novel has better plotting, character development and to boot is more subtle than an anime based on a 4koma? Goodness who would've expected that.... I prefer Yakuindomo because I like the characters better and it's more enjoyable to me.
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2011-01-02, 13:37
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2011-01-02, 13:51
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Well, I have no issue with dirty jokes (not being an acolyte of Ishihara). My issue with Yakuindomo was that it was basically the same dirty joke in about 200 incrementally different variations. But obviously I wan in the minority on that one, so I chalk it up to personal tastes - and it did grow on me enough to make it through the entire series.
Sorry to drag this off-topic into a Seitoaki debate. To bring it back, let me offer a New Year's wish that both series get sequels and make their fans happy...
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2011-01-03, 21:30
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Sales for the week of 12/20-12/26
Meh, no use posting in that thread I made when this suffices just fine.
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* = DVD numbers not ranked 1. Mobile Suit Gundam 00 The Movie -A wakening of the Trailblazer- = 95,284 [BD+DVD] 2. Angel Beats! 7 = 29,797 [BD+DVD] 3. ONE PIECE Log Collection “CHOPPER” = 25,994 [DVD] 4. ONE PIECE Log Collection “GRAND LINE” = 24,322 [DVD] 5. Ore no Imouto ga Konnani Kawaii wake ga nai Vol 1 = 23,178 [BD+DVD] 6. Laputa: Castle in the Sky = 15,501 [BD] 7. Strike Witches 2 Vol. 4 = 12,493 [BD+DVD] 8. Durarara!! 11 = 10,767 [DVD] 7. Hetalia World Series Vol.4 = 9271 [DVD] 9. Kuroshitsuji II IV = 6,733 [DVD] 10. Ookiku Furikabutte ~Natsu no Taikai-hen~ 7 = 6,539 [BD+DVD] 11. Motto To LOVE-Ru -Trouble- Vol. 2 = 6,231 [BD+DVD] 12. Shinrykau! Ika Musume 1 = 6,181 [BD]* 13. Yosuga no Sora Blu-ray 1 = 5,852 [BD]* 14. Tamayura Vol. 2 = 4,148 [BD]* 15. Highschool of the Dead 4 = 4,045 [BD]* 16. G-Selection Mobile Suit Gundam X = 3,755 [DVD] 17. "Bungaku Shoujo" Memoire III ~Koi Suru Otome no Rhapsody~ = 3,374 [DVD] 18. Hyakka Ryouran Samurai Girls Vol. 2 = 3,368 [BD]* 19. Sekirei ~Pure Engagement!~ 5 = 3,229 [BD]* 20. Nurarihyon no Mago Vol. 4 = 3,229 [DVD] 21. EMOTION the Best = 3,166 [DVD] 22. Prince of Tennis TV Anime Edition Pre-pair DVD 8 = 2,973 [DVD] 23. Prince of Tennis TV Anime Edition Pre-pair DVD 7 = 2,686 [DVD] 24. Sora no Otoshimono Forte Blu-ray Vol. 1 = 2,767 [BD]* 25. Mokei Senshi Gunpla Builders Beginning G = 2,219 [BD]* 26. Panty&Stocking with Garterbelt Vol. 1 = 2,127 [BD]* 27. Asobi ni Iku yo! contact,4 = 2,021 [BD]* 28. Soredemo Machi wa Mawatteiru 1 = 1,718 [BD]* 29. OVA ToHeart2 adnext Vol. 2 = 1,691 [BD]* 30. Fortune Arterial: Akai Yakusoku Vol. 1 = 1,601 [BD]* 31. Sekimatsu Occult Gakuin Vol. 4 = 1,481 [BD]* It's a bit surprising how many of the DVDs didn't rank this week, I guess the barrier of entry for DVDs was just too high this week with all the series coming out and the rankings stopping at 2,218. I'm guessing that a lot of the ones that didn't rank were just below the entry level, particularly Ika Musume and YnS, which both probably had around 2,000 DVDs sold. Same with a lot of the other higher ranked BDs. Although when you get down to the BDs that sold around 2,000, the DVDs are probably only in the high hundreds, if that. I feel like PSG is over 3,000 sold with DVD numbers though. Anyway, as expected, Oreimo dominates this season, even outpacing my expectations in both DVD and BDs, although I wasn't far off. I thought it would sale around the high 3,000s-low 4,000s, and the BDs to be in the high 16,000s-low 17,000s. And sales continue to drop off for Kuroshitsuji, although that's usual for it. The DVD will still probably cross 10,000 over the next few weeks. Same deal with DRRR!!, although it has more wiggle room. And lol SoraOto, that's a big drop off from first season sales, and the DVDs are at best only in the low 1,000s. I haven't caught up with the second season myself, but I'm guessing it must have been pretty disappointing for this to happen. Not even the announcement of a movie for it had an effect on sales. Hell, the idea for a movie adaptation of this is laughable in itself. And finally, congratulations to both Ika-chan and YnS, two series which were both kind of black horses this season and turned it around to become probably the 4th and 5th best selling series this season, respectively. With DVDs added in both would probably be around the mid 8,000 area. And going off of pre-order data, the Sora arc of YnS will be even higher in sales than this first volume was.
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2011-01-04, 06:13
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Having noticed this trend before, and with the info that Suzuku had posted, it looks like the shift from DVD's to BD's has been mostly complete, at least for the Japanese Anime consumers. I do wonder if the break even point for DVD's (3000~5000 units) is the same for Blu-ray's?
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2011-01-04, 18:16
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2011-01-13, 08:40
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Sales for the week of 12/27-01/02
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2011-01-13, 09:54
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Sales for the week of 01/03-01/09
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* = DVD numbers not ranked 1. Sengoku BASARA Two Volume IV = 8,799 [DVD] 2. OVA BLACK LAGOON Roberta's Blood Trail 003 = 5,309 [BD+DVD] 3. Shin Koihime Musou ~Otome Tairan~ VI = 999 [BD]* 4. B Gata H Kei 6 = 878 [BD]* Updates: Gintama: Shinyaku Benizakura-Hen = 130,579 [DVD] (4th week) The Disappearance of Haruhi Suzumiya = 128,519 [BD+DVD] (4th week) Mobile Suit Gundam 00 The Movie -A wakening of the Trailblazer- = 122,421 [BD+DVD] (3rd week) K-ON!! 6 = 36,399 [BD+DVD] (4th week) Angel Beats! 7 = 33,524 [BD+DVD] (3rd week) Ore no Imouto ga Konnani Kawaii wake ga nai Vol 1 = 25,980 [BD+DVD] (3rd week) Shinryaku! Ika Musume Vol 1 = 7,598 [BD]* (3rd week)
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2011-01-13, 15:19
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Oh, there was a >100 DVD list for 12/20-12/26, so we can get an estimate for the DVDs that didn't rank (>100 lists don't include exact numbers).
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2011-01-21, 20:09
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Sales for the week of 01/10-01/16
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1. Katanagatari Vol 10 = 6,077 [BD+DVD] 2. Arakawa under the Bridge × Bridge Vol. 1 = 2,557 [BD+DVD] Updates: -Gintama: Shinyaku Benizakura-Hen = 131,914 [DVD] (5th week) -The Disappearance of Haruhi Suzumiya = 129,678 [BD+DVD] (5th week) -Mobile Suit Gundam 00 The Movie -A wakening of the Trailblazer- = 126,910 [BD+DVD] (4th week) -Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha The MOVIE 1st = 103,608 [BD+DVD] (8th week) -Angel Beats! 7 = 33,896 [BD+DVD] (4th week) -Ore no Imouto ga Konnani Kawaii wake ga nai Vol 1 = 26,543 [BD+DVD] (4th week) -Sengoku BASARA Two Vol 4 = 11,179 [DVD] (2nd week) -OVA BLACK LAGOON Roberta's Blood Trail 003 = 6,077 [BD+DVD] (2nd week)
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2011-01-24, 18:29
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How many DVDs does it take to break even for producing the anime, and what is considered a good number? Does the higher price of DVDs in Japan factor into lower numbers? I'm used to millions of units sold for things like video games or blockbuster movies so my expectations are a bit unrealistic. Something like Naruto would still cost $150k an episode right?
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2011-01-24, 20:15
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DVDs and BDs for anime in Japan generally cost about ￥6,500-9,000 ($79-110), with Amazon discounting around 28% of the upfront cost. Generally, 3,000-4,000 BD/DVD copies sold is the excepted number of sales for an anime to break even. And yes, the insane prices have an effect. You're spending upwards of $100 per volume (with most series being 6-8 vols long) for two or three episodes of a series. Contrast this to America, where you can buy an entire season of a show for around $20, although this is due to most shows airing during prime time and thus having very high ratings, whereas most anime air late at night.
Also, Naruto (and other such kid's anime) DVD pricing is about half of what late night anime pricing is, as the show relies on ratings and merchandising (games, T-Shirts, manga volume sales, etc) for revenue rather than DVD sales. You know, the traditional way. In addition, DVD sales for Naruto (and again, other kid's anime) are not high due to the above (they sale like 1,500 copies per volume). Of course, very popular late night anime series such as Kimi ni Todoke, Index/Railgun, K-ON!, or Oreimo enjoy very high BD/DVD sales as well as merchandising sales (primarily manga/novel volumes, but games as well).
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