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2009-03-09, 07:43 | Link #42 |
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Not exactly. Its actually when and where Layfon did those things. He's in Zuellni and not Grendan anymore, Nina's basically complaining for the action what Layfon already did in the past and been punished for it, which was exile by the queen. So far Layfon in Zuellni is being a good kid and didn't make a fuss. Now when she finally knew about his past where its actually beyond her comprehention, being a spoiled runaway girl who likes to play wargame and idealistic, instead of trying to understand what Layfon's motives really were and how much pressure did a HB had back then, she tried to lecture Layfon to use her ideals intead. What if she were in the same situations as Layfon, she'd probably say otherwise. She's too rash into things without thinking cool first.
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I do think it was unfair of Nina too soo quickly judge Layfon without hearing the whole story. Also its obvious that the Student council president knew about Layfon´s past, all of it and tried to help him get over it by putting Layfon on the same side as the annoying big brute and the cat girl.
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But yeah, Nina is too rash and rushes into things. She needs to slow down and think a bit more.
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2009-03-10, 22:07 | Link #45 |
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Shes irrational, however contains a (Saber) noble personality if she changes by being more understanding instead of being reckless and seeing the things Layfon has seen it might be more different never less if she develops correctly then she might be my fav heroine for regios in Fon Fon's harem XD
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First impressions mean a hell of a lot in real life. They can make or break you, whether it's in jobs, friendships, or relationships, and there's a good chance you can't ever break out of that first impression.
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2009-03-11, 05:15 | Link #47 |
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@justinstrife: Let me just butt in and say that not all characters need to be likable, or even sympathetic. Not that Nina isn't likable to me, because she is, really. It's obvious to me that no one here can change your mind, and that's fine. Doesn't seem like you have anything more constructive to say, so moving on.
What do people here think of the Layfon/Nina development in episode 9? I saw a lot of uproar over Nina's decision on the other thread, but was I the only who thought the escalating tension between them so very... delish? Haha, sorry. Seriously though, I think it was Crisis who mentioned it before, those two are undergoing one of the most interesting and meaningful developments in this show. It even made Layfon interesting for the first time! I love his sudden doubt on his philosophy, and hope we get to see more internal struggles like this. |
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Anyway, how is my argument lame? I'm trying to convey my message by using Layfon as an example so you got the idea but you still call it lame? Quote:
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2009-03-11, 05:49 | Link #49 | |
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And surely i prefer someone that clashing with his personality and way of thinking than someone that only because love him take his side, because it means only a lack of personality
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2009-03-11, 06:22 | Link #50 | |
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Beside, if you simply take someone side because you love them, is that really love or is that more of an infatuation? If you really do love them, I believe that you still think whether what they did is right or wrong because you want the best for them. Overall though, Nina and Layfon clashes because of how they were brought up differently. Leerin on the other hand grew up a similar situation so she understands him. Felli on the other hand I'm still a but confused. Is is because they share similar strong powers? Or simply she does not care too much about his ideals? I guess I need more time to think about that.
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2009-03-11, 06:52 | Link #51 | |
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For Leerin, many people think that she is someone who understands Layfon, surely she know layfon because is her childhood friend, but if you see her face when he cut Gaharn's arm, i don't think that she accept everthing that he do, contrary to what she says, probably she side with layfon only because she love him and no one else had taken his side after that incident (except the Queen and some HB, but this she probably don't know).
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2009-03-11, 07:36 | Link #54 | |
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The other point is that we don't know who lived at the orphanage, but this makes me think that except for Layfon and Leerin the other were all children or persons with whom she had not then this great relationship if she leave them, but for this we need to see all the past of layfon to the orphanage. Surely what i started to think is that if anyone had done the same thing for the orphanage, she certainly didn't take his side, this isn't probably a bad thing but i don't like this behavior, take side with someone only because you love him. Well, probably i missed some point but i'm pretty tired too xDD
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2009-03-11, 10:33 | Link #55 | |
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I prefer my thought processes and how I think just fine. As you obviously feel the same about yours so we'll just have to agree to disagree forever on this subject. Some people just can never, ever, see eye to eye on certain issues, and this is one of them.
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2009-04-08, 06:49 | Link #58 |
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Well, I don't think it really was like that ^^; It's just because she can't come up with Layfon in a better way because the difference of their idealism. You know, when people had a different opinion, they tend to avoid each other so that they wouldn't have a fight. It's a different matter when they manage to talk to each other, because it can result to a fight. And it's not like she doesn't care about Layfon. Just look at her reaction during the deserted city arc
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2009-04-08, 16:43 | Link #60 |
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She's far from Tsundere...more like Nakamadere
The Tsunderes are hurting the other(physicaly or emotionaly) with their denial. Nina has no problem being close to Layfon but she constantly denies her feelings and she tries hard to think about him as "just" a comrade. |
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