2007-08-22, 01:55 | Link #102 |
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I think I am agnostic. But when I searched what is Agnostic I got " One who believes nothing which cannot be demonstrated by the senses. " The thing is I both believe in nothing and something. Does anyone understand what I am saying ? There can be a God and there also cannot be one. For every religion there is a specific type of God. And I cannot prove it, or can anyone can ? I cannot prove either if it exists or does not so how can I place judgment ? Anyway what do you call a person like me if there is a name ? Or like you don't have to find a name for me besides the name I was given when I was born !
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2007-08-22, 02:14 | Link #103 |
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I sorta get what you mean. So you believe in a higher being. Yes (maybe its the vibe I get). I guess people like you are called anything. Anyway, don't worry about i know tons of people who are like you, so its absolutely normal (in Australia anyway).
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2007-08-22, 06:28 | Link #104 |
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im a catholic, but thats what my parents are, basically i am one because of them, i dont mind anyway, i believe in myself and believe God stands more for hope rather than something that you pray to to make things happen, i pray once in a while but then just to get some hope in a situation, i believe in a heaven and hell and in rebirth, i believe in karma and that you must do things yourself to get somehting done instead of praying and hoping it would happen, i dont believe in fate but also that you go through struggles to get stronger :3 meow
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2007-08-22, 06:57 | Link #105 | |
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Atheism is firmly believing there is/are no God(s), while agnosticism is not being able to know/decide whether there is or not. From Wiki, "Agnostics claim either that it is not possible to have absolute or certain knowledge of the existence or nonexistence of God or gods; or, alternatively, that while individual certainty may be possible, they personally have no knowledge. Agnosticism in both cases involves some form of skepticism." Further reading if you so care: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agnosticism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theism The three main groups of thought. Best to know the terms properly to correctly explain your beliefs in discussions like this. ^^ |
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2007-08-22, 09:01 | Link #107 |
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The atheism/agnosticism distinction is not so clear (as one can easily see reading the wiki pages) and I don't find it very useful. There are some things I really, really, firmly believe in, for example that the sun will rise tomorrow again, at a certain place on the horizon, and at a certain time. And even here, 'firmly' means to 99.999999999 percent and not 100! I do believe in the non-existence of gods but not with that certainity. I also don't give this "belief" a central role I construct my whole philosophy of life around (something which a true believer does). And I would outright deny that believing in nonexistence of gods is a belief in the religious sense at all, as it is often claimed. Technically this might make me an agnosticist (or not, depending on the exact interpretation of the terms in question). Still, I prefer to call myself an atheist and not an agnosticist since the latter term sounds, at least in the watered-down folk meaning, to wishiwashi, as if a dose of scepticm and hanging the whole question a bit lower means that one does not or should not have a 'serious' opinion at all.
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2007-08-22, 09:25 | Link #108 | |
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I can easily call myself an agnostic, because I really don't care either way. If some religion is right in the end, great for them, if not, no loss for me. =p Wishy-washy is one way to put it, though. I'll argue the point that an agnostic can't have a serious opinion, though. I've studied a lot of religion and made my choice 'to sit on the fence' based on that, it's not a matter of not being informed enough to have a valid opinion, just not knowing enough of solid, believable truth to follow a religious path. (ie. devoting my life to a god that may not doesn't exist seems silly to me) however I respect all religions and their followers equally. Religion is a fascinating thing. One of the most interesting facets of humanity, due to the differing opinions, and the fact some people can be so devoted to something they have no tangible proof of is quite incredible to me. There has to be some kind of meaning behind it all, I think. Thus why I will patiently listen to all views offered. |
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2007-08-22, 11:07 | Link #109 |
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No religion, I've been atheist for the last 6 years or so. My parents were liberal christians and as such was raised with a liberal christian mindset. However, even when I used to believe in the general mythos of christianity I was never much a fan of organized religion. It took alot of time and study before I was able to call myself an atheist but it was a very liberating experience when I finally could. Life, the universe, etc, all seems much more wonderous and interesting to me when its seen with a free mind without a religious filter in place.
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2007-08-22, 13:35 | Link #111 |
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My parents are muslim, but I don't feel like one.
Instead I created my own religion.. =) Not that I want to be the new Jezus or something.. :P It's just that I believe that everybody should have his own beliefs and not what someone else tells you to have.. But it is a religion.. But it's too complex to explain it in 1 post, it involves a theory about the creation of God, and with that.. I created my own God.. =) Also.. My English is not very perfect, so it makes it kinda hard to explain.. =) |
2007-08-22, 14:13 | Link #112 | |
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2007-08-22, 18:57 | Link #113 |
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I don't really have a religion. I guess I'm an atheist, which really is odd, as both my parents were raised catholic, but did not raise me to any religion.
I guess really I belive that everything has a scientific explenation, and at times that can seem like a slightly irrational belief. |
2007-08-22, 19:02 | Link #114 | |
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2007-08-22, 19:03 | Link #115 | |
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2007-08-23, 00:38 | Link #117 | |
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*on topic* Um, spaghetti, as in, the church of fsm? =o. There's something that intrigues me, though: Is there such a religion that believes in the existence of (a) god, but at the same time accepts the existence of other gods from other religions, in the sense that their gods and those 'other gods' co-exist in accordance to this religion despite the possible conflict of belief (with the other religions)? gah; T_T what kind of words am I using... |
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2007-08-23, 01:20 | Link #119 |
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Pastafarian, at the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
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2007-08-23, 02:33 | Link #120 |
Just call me Ojisan
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Let's keep this thread relatively serious and on topic please. Any further mention of the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster (or other similar cults/religions) will just get the entire post deleted. If you have a problem with this then PM me, do not post about it here.
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