2006-06-13, 16:07 | Link #41 | |
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But stop this WW2 crap. |
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2006-06-13, 16:13 | Link #42 | |
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The atomic attacks on Japan saved more lives than it took. Japan by this time had lost over a million people. A land invasion of Japan would've cost around 1mil American lives and countless more Japanese lives due to their no surrender policy. Also Hiroshima and Nagasaki were both high industrial plces for the Japanese military. Thus making those two cities military targets.
Also if the Japanese had the ability to reach the West Coast of the US do you really think they wouldn't have bombed the cities. The Japanese had showed no sign of caring about civilians for example like what they did in China. Quote:
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2006-06-13, 16:22 | Link #43 |
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Ack. What is this? the nationstates general forum?
Less WW2, more Gundam(Or at least something akin to it). And for Orbital platforms...more for commercial interests than for defence probably, I don't see much that orbital platforms could handle that a normal Satelitte couldn't right now. No need to put rail guns or whatever on them to fight insurgents We got enough crap in orbit as it is. Now, using them to get to the moon and do something creative would be a much better thing, there are quite a few rich people willing to pay for their own Las Vegas on the moon. Imagine the revenue!(And the horrible expenses!). |
2006-06-13, 16:25 | Link #44 | ||
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Japanese military in space? I doubt it for two reasons 1 - China, Korea, and Taiwan would be completely against any japanese military presence. 2 - Manpower, namely production. I don't think Japan has that. And of course the budget perhaps. Quote:
And production of Gundams? That's bull, it's a fantasy world, MS(By Gundam standards) are impractical. |
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2006-06-13, 16:48 | Link #45 | |
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2006-06-13, 17:02 | Link #46 |
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A military space in force is pretty pointless atm, there is no viable gain from having a military force in space atm. The only viable tactical option is a wepaons defense platform, like 'Star Wars' to shot down ICBM's. However the deployment of these may lead to a deployment of counter weopans and lead to unmaned vehicles fighting space, thats the closest thing to space warfare i can see.
Howvere when we have assets, colonies on the moon and eventually (hopefully) other planets countries may begin to deploy a space force. However if that happens i would hope that Earth is united much like Star Trek. I dont think Japan have any militaristic plans for space. But want to do what europe is doing in launching its own GPS satellite and weather probes. |
2006-06-13, 17:54 | Link #47 | |
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Some example of what Srb and others are refering to with our foreign policies. 1953: U.S. overthrows Prime Minister Mossadegh of Iran. U.S. installs the Shah as dictator. 1954: U.S. overthrows democratically elected President Arbenz of Guatemala. 200,000 civilians are killed. September 11, 1973: U.S. stages a military coup in Chile. Democratically elected president Salvador Allende assassinated. Dictator General Augusto Pinochet installed. 3,000 Chileans murdered. 1977: U.S. backs military rulers of El Salvador. 70,000 Salvadorans were killed. 1981: Reagan administration trains and funds Contras. 30,000 Nicaraguans die. 1982: U.S. provides billions in aid to Saddam Hussein for weapons to kill Iranians. 1983: The White House secretly gives Iran weapons to kill Iraqis. |
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2006-06-13, 18:20 | Link #48 | |
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Also, the bombings of Japan weren't just simply senseless dropping with no thought into where they fall. If it was, well, Kyoto wouldn't exist. |
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2006-06-13, 19:22 | Link #50 |
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To answer the original question, the Japanese has neither the money nor technical expertise to militarize space before the US and China.
The Soviets had done it much earlier via the Salyut/Almaz program and had deemed such exercise futile. And I still maintain that the F-2 is a failure. And to say that it outperforms Viper variants like the Block 60 AESA or the IDF 16I, WTF? |
2006-06-13, 19:27 | Link #51 | ||
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2006-06-13, 19:46 | Link #52 | |
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Without the large supply of arms and materials from America, starting with the lend-lease act, and throughout the war was very instrumental. Such as how the Sherman tanks beat back the Panzers, simply by having overwhelming numbers. The European allies couldn't have came up with that amount of tanks by themselves. Besides the Americans took the toughest beaches on D-day. Last edited by Sakaki; 2006-06-13 at 20:12. |
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2006-06-13, 20:09 | Link #53 | |
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2006-06-13, 20:49 | Link #54 | ||
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i think i heard that US dropped the nuke bomb to test it and see what the effects are and think also heard that they didnt bomb hiroshima and nagasaki just so they can check the strength of the bomb and was gonna drop another one somewhere and i dont think you would think that it was necessary after seeing the pictures and stuff of after the bombing (im not gonna describe it coz its sick) and knowing people affected by radiation and their son or daughter born with no arms or legs... a lot of the time i think US is a really screwed up country eg saying that what was that country's name? cant have the nuke tech but allowing other country "forgot name also" i just hope the US and china and any country with nukes doesnt send their military to space and also their nukes anyway if we keep saying bad stuff about a country it'll be like korea and china bringing up bad stuff that japan did during the war and stuff and not bringing up good things and make ppl in the country hate japan |
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2006-06-13, 21:19 | Link #55 | |
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Wow. I live in a family full of racist rednecks. I thought I've heard the most stupid and ignorant comments a man could make. But I'll be damned if that right there dosn't take the cake. Yes, omg, I want Japan 2 survive cuz eye cannut life wifout da anymayz! |
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2006-06-13, 23:03 | Link #56 | |
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Haha thats so typical of someone who is to high about himself, that being you of course, so many assumptions from just one post. You think you have figured out everything about me, seriously don't make me laugh kid. You think just because I support what we did to japan that I am blind to our foreign policies, im well aware of them so you should learn to control your tounge before you make such bold assumptions. Anh_Minh wars are not pretty, i firmly belive you do what must be done in order to win, if you must wipe out a city to acheve your goal then wipe it out. If you must use chemical weapons to strike fear into the enemy then you do it. Is it unfortunate that civillians were attacked with chem weapons yes, but in vietnam the north would dress as civillians and attack our solders, we couldnt trust them, it had to be done to save our troops lives. Last edited by Zechs Merquies; 2006-06-14 at 01:17. |
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2006-06-13, 23:35 | Link #57 |
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Rules of War IMHO is the biggest oxymoron there is...if civilians have to be killed, so be it. The Viet Cong never actually gave up on the war, and the US eventually pulled out of vietnam, and let S. Vietnam fall, and so the entire nation became communist. Well, I hope the north vietnamese are happy with their government, along with the biological problems and landmines still there. It wouldn't have happened if they gave up peacefully. So I think they're still getting some just desserts. If you can't win, at least slaughter as many as you can so it's a pyrrhic (sp?) victory at best.
As for the a-bombs...it doesn't sit well with me that so many civilians were killed...couldn't the abombs have been dropped somewhere to demonstrate that power, rather than straight on the cities? As for Japan's military in space...I don't like China at all. Communist government, cheap labor, huge population, growing economy predicted to overtake the US's? I don't like it, and I'd feel a lot safer if such a huge brute force nation was kept in check by a bustling Japanese military. And yes, I've heard the counterarguments...ZOMFG, LOOK AT WW2! JAPAN WAS TEH EVILZORZ! Well, I say get over it. No use crying over spilled milk. I don't hate germans because of the nazis, nor do I hate Italians either, even thoguh they too were axis. Japanese people are some of the nicest people I know. Every nation has its badniks. I'd certainly feel a lot safer if Japanese satellites were keeping the other Asian bloc nations in check (especially China). As for the technical know-how, the Japanese are on the cutting edge of technology...I'd think they'd have the know-how though not the funding. As for anime, it's a part of life, almost as much as oxygen and food are.
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2006-06-13, 23:37 | Link #58 | ||
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^^^^^^If you are an honorable person no. It may be a terrible thing but hey just because life sucks doesn't mean you should help in that cause. Also Vietnam and China aren't communist, they are sociailists. (barely) Atleast not as defined by how I define communism.
Demongod what you said about Japanese people being some of the nicest people you know and every nation having its badniks reminds me of a perfect quote for that. (Can be applied to alot of things actaully.) It was said by the famous argentinian author Jacobo Timerman, most likely from his jail cell. "It is very easy to hate the Nazi, a guardian in the Gulags. But the real danger is not them. It is decent people who compromise with evil." Quote:
Monstert your post reminds me of something I heard awhile ago. I forgot what was the source. Basically it said that if the world was ever invaded by aliens contrary to what the movies show us the Earth would not work together. All the Earth's militaries would be too busy trying to one up each other in an attempt to claim that they defeated the aliens. Ekirts more like the Command and Conquer Global Defense Initiative. Quote:
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If that doesn't clear it then I apologize for the blunt remark then but please give me a detailed explanation if you will. Quote:
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America will keep check with China, both are captialist, they trade tons of stuff with each other. What would happen if one or the other country suffered? One goes down, they take the other with him. Last edited by SoldierOfDarkness; 2006-06-14 at 00:48. |
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2006-06-14, 00:35 | Link #60 | |
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Wow, you don't know anything, sorry. If you think terrorists actually commit 9/11, you need to move out of Alabama and stop driving around with the confederate flag on your truck. Let me tell you somethin' bout what be goin' awn round these parts, sir. I'll give you an example my marine brother in law told me himself. There was an interview where a news crew was interviewing an Iranian soldier. What he was REALLY saying in Iranian was "We are just hoping for peace. We are hoping that the Americans will not try to govern our country." etc etc. What the United States interpreted it as, with subtitles was "We hate the Americans and we will do whatever it takes to stop them from entering our country". Iranians can't even READ English and they're holding English written banners saying "We Love America for getting rid of Saddam". HOw do they even know what they're saying? For all they know, the US soldiers could've handed them the banner, given them 20 bucks and said "Hold this out and cheer". |
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