2004-09-07, 11:53 | Link #241 |
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The character book is kinda stupid. One can not resolve the differences between it and the manga in a reasonable fashion. This is especially true in regards to the Haku saga. It says Haku's speed in the ice mirrors is comparable to Lee's speed. However, it is stated that one needs to sharingan to be able to see Haku, and that that is the only way to defeat the jutsu. However, one doesn't need the sharingan to see Lee's speed (without the weights.) So you see it's kinda worthless.
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2004-09-07, 13:45 | Link #242 | |
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And where does it say that the sharingan is needed to defeat it? I thought that Sasuke simply couldn't see Haku without it because he was too slow. |
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2004-09-07, 13:54 | Link #243 | |
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Also during the Lee vs Gaara fight, The Genins were having a hard time following Lee without the weights, and Gaara's sand couldn't keep up with him. No other Genin could 'outrun the sand' except Sasuke after his training w/ Kakashi. Also I'd liek to mention w/ Gates opened, NOBODY could follow Lee except for the Jounins. I'd say that the POTENTIAL of the Genins speed and power is probably equal to Kakashi or some of the other Elite Jounins, however the experience is what they lack, which MAKES them Genins. Also the lack of Jutsu which the other Jounins have at their disposal. There are many things that make a Jounin, and raw strength isnt the only requirement... Hope i didn't rample off subject! |
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2004-09-07, 15:51 | Link #245 |
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As Sasuke was acquiring the sharingan, he was starting to be able to see Haku's movement. It is the sharingan that finally allowed him to track Haku. It was implied heavily that the sharingan was needed to defeat it. Otherwise, why would it be able to defeat Zabuza, as was implied by Zabuza himself? If Haku speed=Lee speed=Kakashi speed, how was Zabuza able to see Kakashi's movements if not Haku's? If Zabuza could see Haku in the demonic ice mirrors, why would he say it could defeat Kakashi? And this is just one issue.
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2004-09-07, 20:53 | Link #246 | |
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Anyways, did Zabuza ever say he won't be able to see Haku once the mirrors are up? Either way, it doesn't matter if you can see it if you can't react. |
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2004-09-07, 21:12 | Link #247 |
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I alway tough that sharingan could see speed when the guy who speed himself use "speed boost jutsu". Since Lee speed was trained he couldnt see him.
Anyway it only my tough and my theory need a bit of work out but i guess you see what i mean a bit. Actually im not sure it have sense at all hehe |
2004-09-07, 21:21 | Link #248 | |
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2004-09-07, 22:12 | Link #249 |
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well i'm sure there's a way, with pure chakra control, you could increase your speed. if i remember right, sakura was doing that during her ino fight. i don't see why you couldn't be able to when you can focus it to jump super high(ie, sasuke leaping into the air when fighting haku, or when against oro).
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2004-09-08, 00:34 | Link #252 |
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Erm, Sasake was able to see Lee's speed just fine. The problem was that he wasn't able to do anything about it. That's why Lee made that speech about how with taijutsu, sharingan isn't as much of an advantage as with ninjutsu and genjutsu since if your body isn't able to keep up, it won't matter if you see it coming.
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2004-09-08, 02:07 | Link #253 | |
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2004-09-08, 10:19 | Link #254 | |
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2004-09-08, 10:41 | Link #255 |
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what the hell are you ppl talking about??
this is the MANGA 229 DISCUSSION THREAD, not a haku speed sharingan lee speed, kakashi, blablablablablabla my question in the end of the manga, sasuke has his hands in his pocket while standing up, he does something in his pocket with this hands... but what??? does he have something in his pocket?? then he throws his arms back behin his head, and Wham 3-dot-sharingan, wtf did he just do?? |
2004-09-08, 10:47 | Link #256 | |
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2004-09-08, 16:02 | Link #257 | |
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2004-09-09, 01:27 | Link #259 | |
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maybe i mistook your meaning, i meant by releasing chakra from parts of yourr body you can increase speed and power by adding to your own force. not a specific jutsu. |
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