Tales of Symphonia: Knight of Ratatosk Game Discussion

[HayashiTakara]

Originally Posted by Sterling01

I've already played it, beaten it, and hated its ending. For me, it's old news.
Also what novels?

Good for you, hope you know that there are 3 primary endings.

Anyway, theres not much to say about the novel, some author got a hold of the license. Its only based on the first game though. Its not done yet as far as I know. I stopped reading it when I couldn't stand the butchering of the characters anymore.

[Sterling01]

Originally Posted by HayashiTakara

Good for you, hope you know that there are 3 primary endings.

Yeah I know, I personally liked the...

Spoiler for :

one where Emil kills himself after thinking he killed Marta the best

[Chaos2Frozen]

Originally Posted by HayashiTakara

I'm disappointed... wheres the enthusiasm? the game is coming out this Tuesday!!!

Unfortunately, I don't have the Wii so I couldn't get it even when I wanted to...

Shame really, just when I was getting into the Tales series from Vesperia and Abyss... Emil and Marta's character designs adds to the bonus for me.

[HayashiTakara]

I'm avoiding spoilers like the plague! >_<

Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

Unfortunately, I don't have the Wii so I couldn't get it even when I wanted to...

Shame really, just when I was getting into the Tales series from Vesperia and Abyss... Emil and Marta's character designs adds to the bonus for me.

It is a shame, a damn shame! Also Rie (VA for Shana) is Marta's VA. well in the japanese version...

I really want to see the relationship scenes for Sheena and Presea its my main motivation for this game XD

[frubam]

Yeah, I'm all over this, though I'm not to enthused about the VA changes, esp Lloyd. Scott Menville was excellent as Lloyd. And I'm tired of hearing Bosch in leading roles >.>.

Originally Posted by Hayataka

I really want to see the relationship scenes for Sheena and Presea its my main motivation for this game XD

Yeah, they were my favs too . I doubt I'll get to see some Genis/Presea or Lloyd/Sheena love-love, but I'm still looking forward to seeing what they are up to after the events of the original game.

[HayashiTakara]

Originally Posted by frubam

Yeah, I'm all over this, though I'm not to enthused about the VA changes, esp Lloyd. Scott Menville was excellent as Lloyd. And I'm tired of hearing Bosch in leading roles >.>.

Yeah, they were my favs too . I doubt I'll get to see some Genis/Presea or Lloyd/Sheena love-love, but I'm still looking forward to seeing what they are up to after the events of the original game.

From my understanding theres no GenisxPresea. But we do get LloydxPresea and LloydxSheena. So, I'm a happy man

[serenade_beta]

Originally Posted by HayashiTakara

The story is butchered and completely reinterpretated.

Ah~, then that's okay. Ratatosk's story isn't all that interesting, anyways. And if I want to know the original (as in, how the game portrayed it) story, I can just watch the play videos. Saves money and time. And it's in the original JP.

Originally Posted by Sterling01

Also what novels?

Ratatosk novels:
Volume 1
Volume 2

Originally Posted by HayashiTakara

From my understanding theres no GenisxPresea. But we do get LloydxPresea and LloydxSheena. So, I'm a happy man

There is Genius x Presea, one-way though.

[HayashiTakara]

Originally Posted by serenade_beta

Ah~, then that's okay. Ratatosk's story isn't all that interesting, anyways. And if I want to know the original (as in, how the game portrayed it) story, I can just watch the play videos. Saves money and time. And it's in the original JP.



Ratatosk novels:
Volume 1
Volume 2



There is Genius x Presea, one-way though.

lol, of course theres always ways to get something you want XD

I never liked the idea of GenisxPresea... Presea is still 28 well 30 mentally and chronologically. And will always view Genis as a little kid. Having Presea like Genis is like saying she's a shotacon.

Oh and I never knew about those... hmm interesting...

[frubam]

Originally Posted by HayashiTakara

I never liked the idea of GenisxPresea... Presea is still 28 well 30 mentally and chronologically. And will always view Genis as a little kid. Having Presea like Genis is like saying she's a shotacon.
...

You lack the love to truly understand. You thought they were perfect for each other, then the moment the true age thing pops up, all of a sudden it's wrong. Age has no factor when it comes to love. Plus, she's a loli and he's a shota. It's a perfect match!

[HayashiTakara]

Originally Posted by frubam

You lack the love to truly understand. You thought they were perfect for each other, then the moment the true age thing pops up, all of a sudden it's wrong. Age has no factor when it comes to love. Plus, she's a loli and he's a shota. It's a perfect match!

You're one of those Aesthetics people huh? I prefer chemistry and theres zero chemistry between those two.

This has got to be my most favorite conversation between Lloyd and Presea.

Presea: ...It's such a good feeling to be able to move by my own will.

Lloyd: Yeah. I know what you mean. That's how it should be, but Cruxis Crystals and Exspheres make possible what should be impossible.

Presea: Because they're sad, they attach onto someone and fuse with them. A lifeless being is...always lonely.

Lloyd: Lonely?

Presea: Because, when they fuse with their host, the two become one. And then it becomes sad and lonely again.

Lloyd: When you put it that way, I guess you're right.

Presea: They are just like me...always alone.

Lloyd: You have me, right?

Presea: ...What?...

Lloyd: I promised I wouldn't leave you behind.

Presea: ...Yes.

Lloyd: We'll always be together, the two of us. And since there's two of us, we'll never be lonely, right?

Presea*smiling! An actual, huge, smile!*:

[Benoit]

Originally Posted by HayashiTakara

I really want to see the relationship scenes for Sheena and Presea its my main motivation for this game XD

Huh? Where did this come from?

[HayashiTakara]

Originally Posted by Benoit

Huh? Where did this come from?

You get to choose Lloyd's soul mate again in this game. So you get treated to extra scenes.

[serenade_beta]

Originally Posted by HayashiTakara

You get to choose Lloyd's soul mate again in this game. So you get treated to extra scenes.

Hah?! Seriously? 'Cause I haven't seen any scenes like that. You don't even get to use Lloyd for most of the game... (-_-)...


It's amusingly strange... Genius's Hi-ougi has been reduced to a puny Indignation, but he still can use a basic chanting spell called Indignation...

[HayashiTakara]

Originally Posted by serenade_beta

Hah?! Seriously? 'Cause I haven't seen any scenes like that. You don't even get to use Lloyd for most of the game... (-_-)...


It's amusingly strange... Genius's Hi-ougi has been reduced to a puny Indignation, but he still can use a basic chanting spell called Indignation...

Yup you get to choose Lloyd's soul mate again, and its Flanoir again!

Indignation still looks cool, at least from the videos I've seen. I'll judge for myself after getting the game.

[Sterling01]

Originally Posted by HayashiTakara

Yup you get to choose Lloyd's soul mate again, and its Flanoir again!

God damn it... I'm going to have play this game again.
I wonder if you can make Marta fall for him

[frubam]

Originally Posted by Hayataka

You're one of those Aesthetics people huh? I prefer chemistry and theres zero chemistry between those two.

This has got to be my most favorite conversation between Lloyd and Presea.

Spoiler for condense convo:

Presea: ...It's such a good feeling to be able to move by my own will.

Lloyd: Yeah. I know what you mean. That's how it should be, but Cruxis Crystals and Exspheres make possible what should be impossible.

Presea: Because they're sad, they attach onto someone and fuse with them. A lifeless being is...always lonely.

Lloyd: Lonely?

Presea: Because, when they fuse with their host, the two become one. And then it becomes sad and lonely again.

Lloyd: When you put it that way, I guess you're right.

Presea: They are just like me...always alone.

Lloyd: You have me, right?

Presea: ...What?...

Lloyd: I promised I wouldn't leave you behind.

Presea: ...Yes.

Lloyd: We'll always be together, the two of us. And since there's two of us, we'll never be lonely, right?

Presea*smiling! An actual, huge, smile!*:

But, I mean, people always pair the Tales of casts to pairs within their own group, and I shall name all I know for my own amusement: Cless/Mint, Chester/Arche, Reid/Farah, Melody/Keele, Lloyd/Colette, Kratos/Raine, Genis/Presea, Sheena/Zelos, Luke/Tear, Guy/Natalia/Asch, Anise/Jade. ToV it's all questionable with all the yuri undertones, but that's a different story. It's customary. Oh, i guess that means I am a man of aesthetics, huh ?

Originally Posted by serebe

It's amusingly strange... Genius's Hi-ougi has been reduced to a puny Indignation, but he still can use a basic chanting spell called Indignation...

Isn't that good? I mean, Indignation is like the best spell ever to grace the Tales of series(or at least the most popular, even if it's because of the GBA ToP dub >.>), and he can cast it in TWO DIFFERENT WAYS!?!? Maybe I'm just a fanboy >,<.

On an entirely different note, I was thinking of trying to get through the game w/o the monsters in the party, if possible, even if I'm depriving myself of an good piece of the game. Well, I'll see how it is when I actually get the game.

[HayashiTakara]

Originally Posted by Sterling01

God damn it... I'm going to have play this game again.
I wonder if you can make Marta fall for him

Unfortunately no Marta is Emil's.

Originally Posted by frubam

But, I mean, people always pair the Tales of casts to pairs within their own group, and I shall name all I know for my own amusement: Cless/Mint, Chester/Arche, Reid/Farah, Melody/Keele, Lloyd/Colette, Kratos/Raine, Genis/Presea, Sheena/Zelos, Luke/Tear, Guy/Natalia/Asch, Anise/Jade. ToV it's all questionable, but that's a different story. It's customary. Oh, i guess that means I am a man of aesthetics, huh ?

Isn't that good? I mean, Indignation is like the best spell ever to grace the Tales of series(or at least the most popular, even if it's because of the GBA ToP dub >.>), and he can cast it in TWO DIFFERENT WAYS!?!? Maybe I'm just a fanboy >,<.

On an entirely different note, I was thinking of trying to get through the game w/o the monsters in the party, if possible, even if I'm depriving myself of an good piece of the game. Well, I'll see how it is when I actually get the game.

Cless x Mint and Chester x Arche are canon btw...

[frubam]

Originally Posted by Hayataka

Cless x Mint and Chester x Arche are canon btw...

LIES!! The LOVE was THERE!!! It was there even in the anime version(though greatly condensed). I know Arche was rather loose, but that stuff with Chester was def love-love by the end. I even remember Arche saying she'd meet him in a hundred years. Are you telling me that's just her being fickle? I can't remember Cless's and Mints that much though, since Cless was a pretty straight-forward guy, he wasn't as memorable char-wise.

[HayashiTakara]

Originally Posted by frubam

LIES!! The LOVE was THERE!!! It was there even in the anime version(though greatly condensed). I know Arche was rather loose, but that stuff with Chester was def love-love by the end. I even remember Arche saying she'd meet him in a hundred years. Are you telling me that's just her being fickle? I can't remember Cless's and Mints that much though, since Cless was a pretty straight-forward guy, he wasn't as memorable char-wise.

Er... don't you know what "Canon" mean? It means that they are actual couples that can't be disputed... your response confused the crap out of me... >_>

[frubam]

Originally Posted by Hayataka

Er... don't you know what "Canon" mean? It means that they are actual couples that can't be disputed... your response confused the crap out of me... >_>

OMG, I never knew ! Honestly, I've never looked up the definition of it, just went by the context of the sentence and always thought it meant "it's there only for the sake of the plot", which would mean that there was no reason given to them to love each other. My bad .