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Madara | 104 | 32.91% | |
Madara’s Son | 14 | 4.43% | |
Madara’s Clone | 30 | 9.49% | |
Madara’s Ghost/Soul/Poltergeist given shape... | 33 | 10.44% | |
Obito | 59 | 18.67% | |
Obito’s Body, but not really Obito... | 55 | 17.41% | |
Someone else’s body (not Obito’s)... | 21 | 6.65% | |
Zetsu’s Love Child... | 23 | 7.28% | |
Tobirama/Sarutobi/or anyone with a 'tobi' in their name... | 16 | 5.06% | |
Bruce Wayne or other… | 69 | 21.84% | |
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2011-01-18, 17:21 | Link #361 |
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Obito did that.
I won't bother thinking about it for long. Sasuke himself would've recognized his father by an instant and why should Itachi support his father and protect Sasuke from him at the same time? Letting himself be killed in front of Sasuke's eyes? Clever. In fact, Fugaku looks quite different. When anyone can be considered to be related to Madara, then it's Sasuke's mother. You could expect her to be a descendant of Uchiha Madara and you could expect her to have a brother - Sasuke's and Itachi's uncle so to say.
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2011-01-18, 18:22 | Link #362 | |
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BTW did you ever think that Tobi could be Madara's brother? I was also thinking that Tobi might be someone from the Uzumaki clan, but i dropped that idea because when Tobi talks about Madara and the Uchiha clan it is way too personal to be from someone who is not an Uchiha. I haven't read any theories yet about the changes in appearance. We have seen Tobi with 2 different masks with short hair, but when he is controlling the mizukage he had long hair like the old Madara. The only thing that came to my mind was that maybe Tobi is not one person but multiple persons, but i can't think of any reason why would that be the case. Also it was made clear that Zetsu is under Tobi's orders, so there's no way that these different Tobis would be Zetsu's puppets. One thing is for sure, if Kishimoto fails to explain why Tobi was wearing a mask with just one hole for one eye than this whole matter will become much more ridiculous than intriguing Last edited by Ero-Senn1n; 2011-01-19 at 14:27. |
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2011-01-18, 20:10 | Link #363 | |
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2011-02-01, 07:21 | Link #366 | |
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My guess sasuke has plot bandages or madara just wants to keep him in his lair till he needs him.... Last edited by mrShady; 2011-02-01 at 07:37. |
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2011-02-02, 09:53 | Link #368 | |
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Well tobi in the beginning only showed his right eye, yet madara (including the statue) only showed his left he almost always has a lock of hair in front of his right eye. And I know he has both eyes I'm just puzzled why we hardly ever see his right eye yet tobi (until recently) only showed his right eye. |
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2011-02-10, 03:17 | Link #370 |
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its known now that Tobi is Madara but i got some doubts of how Madara is still alive though, and added to the doubt is how Kabuto shocked him when he show some zombie to Madara that made Madara take Kabuto as an Ally, im curious on that
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2011-02-11, 17:40 | Link #372 | |
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I'm sure there's a trick behind Madara.
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2011-02-16, 12:41 | Link #373 | |
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in kisames flashback, we see the real madara…long hair, sharingan, bandaged bodied that creeps up behind the third mizukage. also, there seemed to be some significance to kisame mentioning "that eye…shining in the darkness" (which i will mention again). in the fight with konan, tobi practically screams that he is madara…paraphrased: i fought the first hokage, i lost but the fight was for the future…i stole his cells so now i can use izanagi. when tobis mask cracks during that fight, something looks off…it looks like the actual "body" is some sort of vessel and that black shaded part reminded me of "that eye…shining in the darkness". i think madara is using some sort of shell (either another uchiha or a zestu clone, though im leaning toward mind control of another uchiha) to move about. this makes sense to me for a couple of reasons: when it became clear that madara was looking to implant the rinnegan, i thought, if this is his body, he'll replace both eyes but if this is some sort of vessel, he will only replace one eye… it is not unbelievable to me considering his vast collection of sharingans, that madara possessed another uchiha, uses the right eye for offense/defense, and uses the left for izanagi(now for the rinnegan). ps. tobi was pretty pissed nagato used the rebirth jutsu on konoha. his soul is in this dimension and powered down because of his injuries…he'll become fully powered again soon and based on revelations from this last chapter, we have "tools" to defeat an immortal…
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2011-02-19, 07:59 | Link #374 |
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There is a major hint that this Tobi is not Uchiha Madara. Just look how he addressed Minato during his Kyuubi Attack on Konoha.
The moment he appeared he said "Fourth Hokage... Minato[...]" He called the 4th Hokage by his first name. There are various examples that distant people, even if they know each other, always address each other with the full name... "Uzumaki Naruto, you are truly..." "Uchiha Sasuke..." "Momochi Zabusa, the Demon from the Village Hidden in the Mist" "Hatake Kakashi... the Copy Ninja" "Hoshikage Kisame..." whenever people meet, even if they know each other from previous fights or bingo books, they never address each other with the first name. They only do that when there's a close relation which was even explained at some point in the manga, especially the thing with dropping the -san -chan -kun -sensei thing... And it would have been too much of a hint if he had addressed Minato with Minato-sensei...
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2011-02-20, 11:53 | Link #375 | |
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2011-02-24, 08:45 | Link #376 |
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If Tobi/Madara has a storage place full of eyes, what's to say he doesn't have a storage place full of bodies?
I'm really not sure... but he could be Obito's body, used by Madara. But it doesn't make sense that he would used a crushed body... I personally think the one eye hole is just to throw people off the scent, why else would an Uchiha with many eyes in storage only have one eye, and later we were shown he does in fact have two sharingan eyes, before he replaced it with the rinnengan. Also, does anyone else think that he may already have a third eye, or at least a third eye socket? His forehead is covered and his mask has a third eye, which is probably the place for his third eye once he gets it (If he doesn't have it already). |
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his dimensional transfer jutsu and phase in/phase out ability is pretty formidable. i think the stash of eyes is for izanagi...for when he is stuck in 10 min long explosion with no way out [ie. he fights the hokage, takes his cells, then uses the uchiha massacre as an opportunity to collect for the jutsu]
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2011-02-24, 21:44 | Link #379 | |
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2011-02-26, 21:36 | Link #380 |
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I think I solved the riddle behind Madara's body. It's actually pretty obvious.
Check Chapter 487/Page 14 Let's say Madara stole the 1st Hokage's DNA in battle. He created Zetsu. Zetsu created new bodies for Madara in order to make him survive a whole century without aging. The only answer to that way of surviving the decades is a mind transfer technique like Orochimaru's. Nothing impossible so far.
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