2009-05-02, 14:38 | Link #2441 |
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I have never been bullied physically, and I had enough friendly aquaintances in the higher level of popularity food chain in school to where I was never really messed with, despite never being there myself. However, I do know that if I had ever been bullied and had gone to a teacher with it, I would have been labelled a snitch and I would been made into even more of a target by more bullies, so that option was a big no-no.
Hell, my own mother told me that if a bully ever put his hands on me, I had permission to defend myself and fight back. She would deal with the consequences herself. It depends on where you're from and how you've been raised, me thinks. Also note that if you're going to fight a bully, especially during school, don't have a track record of disciplinary problems. If you've been considered a good, respectful student by your teachers, you definately be let off. You're chances would be better than the bully, that's for sure. If an alternative for fighting is wanted, the best option to me would be the 'avoiding' option. Make yourself scarce, it works more than one might think. Last edited by Dilla; 2009-05-02 at 14:55. |
2009-05-02, 15:39 | Link #2442 |
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Sometimes bullies will back down if you tell an adult, but many times there is no alternative solution except to fight back.
I have personal experience with bullying, and I have a friend who got bullied. One time my friend was waiting to cross a very busy street on the outside of my school, when a bully pushed him and he fell into the street. Luckily there no cars there that coould have possibly ended his life that today. He immediately got up, and socked the bully in the face. Later he would find out that a parent called, and he and the bully ended up getting suspended for 3 days because of a "zero tolerance" policy. Obviously my school made a retarded decision. In my own experience, I kept getting bullied in my class in 10th grade by some jerk who get shoving me or turning my desk, sometimes spitting on me, and calling me whatever name he could figure out. What did I do to him to get this attention? Nothing. I soon told my teacher about the situation and he was reprimanded. However, this did not stop him and actually encouraged both him and his friends to bully me out of class. I finally got tired and beat the sh*t out this kid (He was smaller than me). This was away from the school's attention, so nothing happened to me. But I could have likely got expelled if they found out. He was pretty bruised up, and he stopped bullying me afterwards, though to this day we are not on friendly terms by any stretch of the imagination. We ignore each other's existences. Well to be on the topic, I hope the ultimate decision on the kid in this story resolves in a positive manner for him and his family. There was an interesting anime episode in Shigofumi about the topic of bullying if people want to gain some insight into this issue...
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2009-05-02, 21:04 | Link #2443 |
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I had experienced 3 years of constant bulling (not physically) by some jerks in high school and it wasn't pretty... The problem is that when I reported it, the school administration do little to fix the problem, mainly because of my nationality... After graduating, of course the burden went away and I don't remember it much which made myself able to perform better in college than high school.
The problem with US schools is that they don't enforce their anti-bulling policy... which in the end causes problems for the victim of bulling...
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2009-05-02, 21:42 | Link #2444 |
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K-12 anti-bullying policy is, for the most part, an unmitigated disaster. It punishes the victim, it encourages people to *report* victims (since they might shoot up the school, so the thinking goes), it teaches fanciful responses to bullies (e.g. "just walk away" ... and when you turn around, they smack you in the back of the head -- brilliant).
It is a rare day when I see a policy that attempts to make the bully responsible for their antics or to eliminate the conditions that encourage such nonsense. Gods forbid that we hold a student *responsible* for being a bully.... :P
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2009-05-02, 22:31 | Link #2445 |
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Hmm bullying eh? Ya that stuff really got to me in junior high, when high school started I said no more and some kids that had bothered me before started ganging up on me during gym class I kind of lost it. I started talking back to them, one of them ( I guess he'd be the so called 'ringleader') got in my face and I grabbed him by the back of the head with both hands, pulled him towards me, and proceeded to shatter his nose as I headbutted him with everything I had. One of the others grabbed me but he was kind of a little fella and I was raging so I shoved him and wouldn't you know (wtf ) there was a small 3 foot or so embankment that led to the soccer field behind him...down he went. The last guy came running and for some reason ( I think i was watching to much wrestling or something) i choke slammed him onto the ground and started shoving pine needles in his mouth.
That's pretty much when the Gym teacher showed up, the end. I got suspended for a week, came back to school and for the next 4 years I never had another problem with anyone verbally or physically. In fact I actually developed pretty cordial relations with most of the delinquents. I don't condone hurting other people.....but sometimes it can get results. I lived in a pretty small town though, so it might be a little different in big cities where there are gangs and some seriously dangerous individuals.
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Here's what's realyl going on in Canada right now with regard to politics. The Liberal party leader Michael Ignatieff has made his acceptance speech and the Liberal's are currently gaining popularity in the polls. Enough to pull ahead of the conservatives, but not for Ignatieff to beat out Harper in the leadership question polls. As for the Olympics, all I've heard is that Harper hopes that enough Euphoria and Canadian pride will be channelled through them to reflect back on the Conservatives and allow them to slide through to the next election. Quote:
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My foot it's going to work. Seriously, wtf is up with the world?
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2009-05-03, 07:58 | Link #2450 | |
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but then again... if the victim were to fight against the bully, the victim will still get punished...
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2009-05-03, 08:29 | Link #2451 | |
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In other words, the good never get their just rewards, but it is always the evil that gets away with it. On one hand, i've recently been given a job at a small university (it's not even on Honshu for the record) as a part-time lecturer on Modern Visual Culture, targeted at foreign students. It's an all-English course. LOLZ Meanwhile, I'm letting go of my social worker position to pursue such a post. Given that lodging is provided with my new job, I think that's not such a worry. I think it's understandable that the church had to let me go due to the crisis. On the other hand, since I'm moving southwards to an off-shore island, it means I get more sun! So thus, I can't give any much more on this topic regarding my views... but still...
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2009-05-03, 12:08 | Link #2452 |
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He was appointed by people who thought he was going to be a "big government conservative"... he turned out to actually read the constitution a lot of the time (unlike a few other justices ). There's more than one kind of conservative... just as there's more than one kind of liberal. The two terms (and the political linear graph) are really inadequate to describe anyone.
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2009-05-03, 12:28 | Link #2453 | |
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All these anecdotal situations used as evidence as methods to solve bullying do not help people being bullied, making aware the adverse affects of bullying and its harm to those who suffer from it is the only way to really find a possible solution. Just posting a sob story on the tele or the internet does nothing but raise out cry at that moment, but once that moment passes, we seem to forget the pain that bullying causes, we don't need suicides and mass murder to galvanize a movement of treating people with respect, respect doesn't mean you have to like someone, but treating them like a human just seems to be too much to ask for these days. Last edited by Nosauz; 2009-05-03 at 12:43. |
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http://www.google.com/#hl=en&q=colum...fp=OlAWEoQSgPM It really all comes back to the school trying to protect its own image with little regard to what happens under the hood. As long as there's no shooting, they're fine. Since victimized people shoot, as long as there are no victimized people, they're fine. Since they can't be bothered to find out who the victims and victimizers are, as long as they deal with depressed people, it's close enough. The message I'm really getting is this: "We don't care what's going on, as long as there's no violence." Everything harebrained is built upon this. Ain't life grand? I'm glad I left the public school system. |
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2009-05-03, 12:59 | Link #2455 | |
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2009-05-03, 13:12 | Link #2456 | |
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2009-05-03, 13:19 | Link #2458 | |
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2009-05-03, 13:19 | Link #2459 |
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Berlusconi's wife to divorce him.
Berlusconi 'pained' amid divorce reports. Ha! Serves him right for being an egotistic playboy.
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2009-05-03, 13:32 | Link #2460 | |
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But then again, in college, I never had to put up with this bullying crap because most of the bullies never get their foot in a good college in most cases.
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