Da Capo

[EternalBlue]

Originally Posted by kj1980

I don't understand the concept of you people wanting to read the manga....it was serialized on Comptiq magazine, it was a poor adaptation of the original game, and the drawing sucks compared to the actual CG drawings done by genga-artist Nanao Naru from the original D.C. game.

If you want the real story, play the game.

It's kinda hard to play the game when you can't understand japanese :P. Anyway I still want to read the manga. Can someone please tell me the link to MangaONE. I'm so confused on where to go >_<

[Anlushac11]

Originally Posted by kj1980

Well,

Spoiler:

First of all, there was no Moe's episode. The series ended without even touching upon Moe's dead boyfriend.

Ep. 26, we see Miharu, true form, turning along with the rest of the crowd as Junichi runs to the school to meet up with....Nemu, all "cured" and in a new uniform.

On a side note, Miharu got into a flame war on Japan's most notorious BBS site, 2ch. And since this is Japan, we don't use EBay. Our main auction site is Yahoo! Auction on Yahoo! Japan's website.

Since you know a bit more than the show covers some questions please?

Spoiler:

Someone had mentioned something about Moe-Chan going to sleep alot so she could be with her dead boyfriend.

What happened to him? I take it by her actions tht she was deeply in love with him?

Also what is 2ch? you said it is a BBS site but what is it about?

I had no idea that Ebay hadnt wormed its way into every coner of the connected world yet.

[LBW]

http://www.gotwoot.net/torrents.php

*wonders what a panel edit is*

[Lord Raiden]

Spoiler:

I'm wondering, if Moe-chan had actually wished that she could be with her dead boyfriend, wouldn't he have come back to life in some form so she could be with him? I'm thinking that by falling asleap all the time it was her way of being with him without having to actually make a wish. Probubly more a form of denial than a real wish that he could come back. She's probubly fully aware that he's dead and knows that nothing can change that, so she resorts to the only way she knows how to bring him back and see him regularly, and that's by dreaming about him. So that's probubly why there's no moe-chan episode. Because what she's experiencing has nothing to do with the Sakura trees.

I may be wrong, but that's my two cents on the whole thing with Moe-chan. Speaking of which, I really liked her and her constant desire to make japanese casaroles.

[kj1980]

Originally Posted by Anlushac11

Since you know a bit more than the show covers some questions please?

Spoiler:

Someone had mentioned something about Moe-Chan going to sleep alot so she could be with her dead boyfriend.

What happened to him? I take it by her actions tht she was deeply in love with him?

Also what is 2ch? you said it is a BBS site but what is it about?

I had no idea that Ebay hadnt wormed its way into every coner of the connected world yet.

Moe's story overview (not written into anime plot)

Spoiler:

Moe has a childhood boyfriend who was the only person who treated her nice when they were children. She was ridiculed by her fellow classmates for being ditsy and always out-of-the-blue. When she was playing in the sandbox alone making a tunnel all by herself, a kid named Kei came along to make the tunnel with her.

All throughout her life, as a child, every kid ridiculed her. Kei-kun treated her like a friend. One day however, when Moe was being clutsy and tried to cross a street when the signal was red, Kei-kun jumped out in front of her to save her from an oncoming car....and died. Moe puts herself to blame, and refuses to believe that Kei-kun has died. She's constantly in sleepy-mode as she takes sleeping pills so she can be with Kei-kun in her dreams.

Things turn out worse once again when Junichi saves her from an oncoming car as well. She recalls this vivid memory of Kei-kun, and forces herself to go to sleep even moreso than before. Too bad Moe's storyline wasn't portrayed in the anime. Moe's story in the game was a real tear-breaker.

What is 2ch? -

http://www.2ch.net

It's a very notorious and infamous Japanese message board that deals with every issue you can think of, ranging from national politics to cooking.

Most message threads are good and peaceful...others are just...well let's just say they are isolationist and delusional freaks who sit in front of the computer all day and make AA (ascii arts) of the 2ch mascot - "mona- the cat" to bash people around on their comments.

2ch first attained notoriety back in 2000 when a middle school student put up a note in one of the message threads that he's going to hijack a bus later in the day. Though everyone thought he was kidding and most people started bashing him textually, he actually did hijack a bus with bottles of gasoline wrapped around him.

After that incident and the 2ch board being shown on nationally on TV, where 2ch message thread became sort of a message board for the masses.

It again came into media attention when someone put up a note that he will be showing a live killing of a kitten on the board. Granted, no one believed him, but the event actually took place. And a VERY GORY ONE at that as well (it is stated that he showed up to the second live broadcast feed of stabbing the kitten's eye and slowly breaking the kitten's neck with his hands, and finally slitting the kitten's throat). That is when the Japanese government began to start monitoring, and if necessary, shut down the 2ch website for such premonitions of heinous acts of crime.

But just when the Japanese government was about to step in and shut down the 2ch board - something that was unexpected in Japan occurred - A LAWSUIT FROM THE MESSAGE BOARD ADMINISTRATOR AGAINST THE JAPANESE GOVERNMENT FOR INFRINGING AGAINST FREEDOM OF SPEECH. In a country where the numbers of lawsuits are extremely low compared to other Western nations, it again received media attention - a regular common Japanese citizen standing up against the historically bureaucratic Japanese government.

But of course, the Japanese government thought "what can one little administrator do against a big government like ours?" Well, the 2ch phenomenon received so much media attention that the Japanese populace (known for being very apathetic to political issues) actually sided with the 2ch message board's appeal:

"I am only providing a social arena to discuss issues and events - what occurs on that message board is not my responsibility, rather it is the responsibility of the person who does the action. I have no issue with providing information (IP addresses) for people who have committed and/or under suspiscion in instigating a crime, but to shut down a board that has grown to such a size is against the right to assemble and freedom speech guaranteed by our Japanese Constitution of 1945."

Perhaps, people saw him as a lone warrior fighting against a corrupt and useless political machine that the majority of the populace has equated to the Japanese government. Perhaps, people were tired of bureaucrats controlling Japan, plunging Japan into a decade old recession. Perhaps, many were just dissatisfied with all the money laundering scandals and backdealing construction contracts that had plagued the Japanese National Diet. Whatever the case, the Japanese people sided with this single message board administrator as person who had the actually had the guts to stand up against the government.

And perhaps the government couldn't have chosen a worse time to instigate such a mess. A major upper house election for the National Diet was just a few months ahead, and the major party in Japan - the Liberal Democratic Party (LDP) needed the votes to retain its five-decade rule over national politics. And seeing the majority of Japanese citizens (crucially needed for LDP party votes for the Upper House elections) siding with the message board administrator, had no choice to back down from shutting down the message board.

Of course, more media attention poured into the 2ch message board system. "The little kid (a lone Japanese citizen) finally beats bigger brother (the strong Japanese bureaucracy)" said one newspaper article headline. "Popular victory! A step toward true democracy!" read a left-wing magazine article. Whatever.

Be as it might, 2ch became notorious, but ended up lucky. It gained free national attention, first bashed by the media for having threads and topics that showed (perhaps even lead) such heinous acts of crime, but ended up being the banner of "popular masses over government intervention."

So, the 2ch message board still exists today. Granted, some privacy had to be compromised (the 2ch administrator agreed in the first place anyway - he was only against shutting his message board down) but it still symbolizes a new era of Japanese citizen rights - freedome to assemble and speech...whether those speeches are good (latest stock forecasts, a citizen's review of the latest computer equipment, and new cooking recipes) or bad (degrading remarks against Koreans and Chinese people living in Japan "rotting the country" and pro-9/11-terrorist remarks for "finally putting dirt onto America"), it doesn't matter.
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Ebay doesn't have the capability to search and post in Shift-JIS Japanese letters.

Therefore, we use something that can - Yahoo! Auction.

[relentlessflame]

Wow, kj1980, you are a veritable fountain of knowledge. The story of the 2ch message board is very interesting!

And also, believe me when I say that if I could understand enough Japanese, not only would I have already purchased the Da Capo game, I would have already beaten it many times over, I'm sure. It's just that, for many reasons, nobody seems willing or interested in translating these types of games. It's really a shame. Perhaps that will change some day.

[Lord Raiden]

Well, even if the anime can't be totally true to the game, I still love this series. Definate sleeper hit.

[PocariSweat]

Anyone else notice Da Capo's story has a lot in common with the old 1950's Sci-Fi move "Forbidden Planet" (which itself was sort of based on Shakespeare's "The Tempest")?

Ancient movie spoiler

Spoiler:

In the move a party from Earth discovers a planet with only two people living on it - a scientist and his daughter (and their robot). Seems they are the lone survivors from a previous expedition who discovered the remains of a long dead alien race - including a vast underground machine which can read minds and turn one's thoughts into reality.

After the scientist used the machine, people around him start to die mysteriously. First the original expedition, then the new arrivals. No one knows why at first, but it turns out to be the same thing that killed the aliens thousands of years before - the machine created "monsters from the ID" - their subconscious desires and hatreds made real.

Not altogether unlike Sakura and her tree eh?

Of course, it didn't have any cat girls (had a cat and a girl though) and unlike Da Capo's resident robo, "Robby" didn't get so wiggly over bananas.

[stingray]

just watched eps24. damn....

hmm...didn't know about the moe-chan backstory (not that i would have). interesting....

[kj1980]

Originally Posted by PocariSweat

Anyone else notice Da Capo's story has a lot in common with the old 1950's Sci-Fi move "Forbidden Planet" (which itself was sort of based on Shakespeare's "The Tempest")?

Actually, the game maker got the idea from a hyakunin-isshu poetry written in the late 6th century Japan.

[Lord Raiden]

EDIT: Nevermind. Either I'm blind or my searching skills suck.

[Anlushac11]

Originally Posted by kj1980

Spoiler:

Too bad Moe's storyline wasn't portrayed in the anime. Moe's story in the game was a real tear-breaker.

Im sorry may I lask one last question?

Spoiler:

What is the final outcome for Moe-chan in the game, does she die? have a breakdown? OD on sleeping pills?

Since I will most likely never be able to play the game curiosity is killing me. Sorry.

[kj1980]

Originally Posted by Anlushac11

Im sorry may I lask one last question?

Spoiler:

What is the final outcome for Moe-chan in the game, does she die? have a breakdown? OD on sleeping pills?

Since I will most likely never be able to play the game curiosity is killing me. Sorry.

Spoiler:

she realizes that she can't go on dreaming, and "wakes up" to the reality that Kei-kun is dead.

Junichi tells her, that Kei-kun died for her, and that though he may never be as someone like Kei-kun (since a person that is dead is more stronger in imagination than someone that is alive - read Takahashi Rumiko's "Maison Ikkoku" for more info) but that Kei-kun would not have wanted to see Moe-senpai in such a state...and that would mean Kei-kun died for nothing.

Moe-senpai becomes much more strong-willed, and it is great to see her in such a healthy state...all smiling with full of energy towards Junichi.

[Mistwrath]

Finally caught episode 24 of Da Capo. Well Miharu's stuff is kinda touching in my opinion, and yet foolish. Sigh

Kinda roughly know what's going to go on in episode 25 and 26 by reading those spoilers at D.C official website.

Nothing much is touched on Suginami either in the anime. Mako is still very much normal compared to her sister.

Let me replay D.C 1 more time to get refresh on some of those endings

[WeeJie354]

Hi everyone I'm new here!, so i don't know how to use this forum yet.so....

May i ask something...... Will there be Da Capo Season 2 or the Whole Anime End

After eps26?

[vio5555]

Originally Posted by WeeJie354

Hi everyone I'm new here!, so i don't know how to use this forum yet.so....

May i ask something...... Will there be Da Capo Season 2 or the Whole Anime End

After eps26?

After 26 its over.

[Lord Raiden]

WAH!!! ;_; J/K ^_^

Yeah, since the game ends where EP26 ends, then yeah, there's no second season. Although if the game makers wanted to make a sequel, heck, I'm all for it.

[golthin]

Originally Posted by kj1980

Spending the night in line at Comike 65, I was watching D.C. Episode 26 on my Sony VAIO where I recorded the TV on to its HD so I have something to do (and get warmed up) while waiting for the doors to open, as I wait since 4AM, battering zero-degree centigrade temperatures.

I am writing this post from the local wireless hotspot inside Ariake Big Sight as I take a rest from doujinshi shopping...

Spoiler:

Honestly, it could've been better. But at least Sakura realized that it wasn't her hate for Junichi, but her fear of being rejected by Junichi that was causing the sakura tree to re-grow. And Nemu walks toward the tree...

Hmm...quite different from Nemu's ending in the D.C. game, but it still was okay. She should've gone to the school, but went to the sakura tree instead. I guess then that the story followed Sakura's ending. But then, Nemu should've...ahh, who cares. An ending is an ending. Director Miyazaki Nagisa made a quite a good adaptation to the game, I would give it an overall 90 points.

The ending...

Murasaki Izumiko speaks! But where is Ms. Kuwatani Natsuko's credit in the ending!?

Tomochan and Mikkun shows their faces!! M...moe~...

and...Misawa Yoriko-san!! You must be the favorite character of the seisaku-staff members ^^ I mean, who would want a cat-eared maid-san....me too...

And, Nemu-chan. Welcome back, welcome to honkou. New uniforms are so moe~...

NOOOOOOOO! NOOOOOO! NOOOOO! IS this the end?

Spoiler:

So Sakura end with Jyuchini?

[golthin]

Originally Posted by kj1980

Well,

Spoiler:

First of all, there was no Moe's episode. The series ended without even touching upon Moe's dead boyfriend.

Ep. 26, we see Miharu, true form, turning along with the rest of the crowd as Junichi runs to the school to meet up with....Nemu, all "cured" and in a new uniform.

On a side note, Miharu got into a flame war on Japan's most notorious BBS site, 2ch. And since this is Japan, we don't use EBay. Our main auction site is Yahoo! Auction on Yahoo! Japan's website.

I need to know the end! which girl did he end with in episode 26?

Spoiler:

Did Nemu lose her memory? Are they still a couple?

[golthin]

Originally Posted by kj1980

Well,

Spoiler:

First of all, there was no Moe's episode. The series ended without even touching upon Moe's dead boyfriend.

Ep. 26, we see Miharu, true form, turning along with the rest of the crowd as Junichi runs to the school to meet up with....Nemu, all "cured" and in a new uniform.

On a side note, Miharu got into a flame war on Japan's most notorious BBS site, 2ch. And since this is Japan, we don't use EBay. Our main auction site is Yahoo! Auction on Yahoo! Japan's website.

Please spell it out for me .

Spoiler:

Does Jyunichi end with
Sakura or Nemu! I am hoping it is nemu, I am going crazy.
Please let it be nemu!

Is there a place where i can find episode 25 and 26 raw?