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Homo Ludens
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2008-03-29, 18:03 | Link #6064 | |
Homo Ludens
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And Vol. 9 has a new character strongly hinted to be a slider, and possibly an alternate, older version of Kyon's Sister. |
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2008-03-29, 18:04 | Link #6066 | |
Word Moe
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Edit: As a note, I do admit that my own biases may be coloring my perspective. I like the multiple worlds interpretation. I like Haruhi. Sasaki's unchanging state rubs me the wrong way. |
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2008-03-29, 18:07 | Link #6067 | |
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I think the way time travel works in the Haruhi 'verse seems to only allow time travel in discrete units, I.E. I can travel back 2 years or 2.5 years but not 2.435 years. (of course, their units, or 'time planes' probably represent much smaller units of time.) Of course, a 'time plane's' size could depend on the nature of the events within that plane.... On the other hand, a 'time plane' could be a distinct, inalterable section of time. The events within a time plane cannot be altered, but you can change whats in them (Like a person, I.E. Time travel) or change which time plane they lead to. (I.E. when you have a a situation that could lead to to events, you end up with to possible 'time planes' to continue on to.)
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2008-03-29, 18:10 | Link #6068 | |
Homo Ludens
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From what I do get from reading the novels, is that Fujiwara's time travelers think that they CAN change the past, whereas Mikuru's time travelers know that they can't. And Jintor, the Haruverse time travel is based off of this trope with a dash of this one. Haruhi and her ilk alone are able to change time, which is why Kyon has to Set Right What Once Went Wrong in Vol. 4 using his Ripple Effect Proof Memory. That enough tropes for you? |
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2008-03-29, 18:12 | Link #6069 |
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@Dragon There isn't any limits, except that they can't go back further than 3 years; the time-quake as they call it. This may or may not be true at all actually. It's a complicated thing in itself, that should be left to heavy discussion by the people who've spent alot of time on this (Not me)
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2008-03-29, 18:13 | Link #6070 | |
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2008-03-29, 18:13 | Link #6071 | ||
Homo Ludens
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The presence of the rod on Tsuruya Hill in Vol. 7 proves that. Quote:
They want to be able to erase time travelers and time travel from existence, and for that, they need Haruhi. |
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2008-03-29, 18:15 | Link #6072 |
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The point is that if I can't understand the infodump at a glance, probably most readers who aren't versed in Time-Travel Theorums won't be able to either. And since Mitsuuru/Mikuru's infodump is crucial to Kyon's understanding, I need to editjob the whole infodump to try and make it more understandable. And to do that, I need to know what Mikuru/Mitsuuru's current knowledge of time-travel is.
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2008-03-29, 18:16 | Link #6073 | |
Homo Ludens
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2008-03-29, 18:17 | Link #6074 | |
Word Moe
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Premonition to a future where the time quake issue is resolved? |
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2008-03-29, 18:17 | Link #6075 |
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But it should be understandable.
It should at the very least make sense. You should be able to recognize that Mitsuuru is being lied to when the actual time travel comes into play later in the novels. And to be able to recognize that Mitsuuru was being lied to you need to understand wtf he was actually saying. |
2008-03-29, 18:19 | Link #6076 | |
Homo Ludens
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Remember, the fault in the timeline wasn't always there. |
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2008-03-29, 18:20 | Link #6077 | |
Word Moe
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2008-03-29, 18:21 | Link #6078 | |
Homo Ludens
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According to him, time is set up into "planes" (basically alternate universes) into which a traveler from another plane can "jump". Due to this, his presence has no effect on the "timeline" which really doesn't exist. Get it now? |
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2008-03-29, 18:21 | Link #6079 | |
Word Moe
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Really, we need a frame shot of Haruhi's private library to even guess at what's really sneaking around in the background. |
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