Why don't fansubbers want to restrain themselves with DRM?

[Starks]

Originally Posted by Quarkboy

Nope, I don't think that's the reason. I think that it's more fansub market forces that force the price to _0_. If one group decided to start charging for its releases, not only would they be shunned by most people, another group would just pop up in its place that distos for free. Whether or not getting money for the stuff is legal or illegal doesn't really factor into most group's decision, I think.

It's bad enough distroing licensed fansubs for free... The thought of paying for fansubs is even more wrong. It's simply unfathomable and goes angainst a core principal of fansubbing. Back in the day of VHS subbers, groups only charged buyers for shipping, the fansub itself was free.

[Coderjoe]

Originally Posted by Starks

It's bad enough distroing licensed fansubs for free... The thought of paying for fansubs is even more wrong. It's simply unfathomable and goes angainst a core principal of fansubbing. Back in the day of VHS subbers, groups only charged buyers for shipping, the fansub itself was free.

Many groups didn't deal with money at all. You had to send blank tapes and return shipping means.

[NenMaster]

you should forget all this, i doint think theres a point unless the raw is drm or what ever.

all you need these days is a srt file and the video and you have a fansub, do you think people would download drmed files when they could just download the raw and get a srt file?

and are these the same people who want to add drm to fansubs that are downloading mp3s, hypocrites

[Kurz]

Originally Posted by NenMaster

you should forget all this, i doint think theres a point unless the raw is drm or what ever.

all you need these days is a srt file and the video and you have a fansub, do you think people would download drmed files when they could just download the raw and get a srt file?

and are these the same people who want to add drm to fansubs that are downloading mp3s, hypocrites

I hope you arent taking this topic seriously.

[bayoab]

Originally Posted by NenMaster

you should forget all this, i doint think theres a point unless the raw is drm or what ever.

all you need these days is a srt file and the video and you have a fansub, do you think people would download drmed files when they could just download the raw and get a srt file?

and are these the same people who want to add drm to fansubs that are downloading mp3s, hypocrites

Congratulations for blatently showing you haven't read any of the posts.

Also, how many groups do you see releasing SRTs.... yes thats right, almost none.

[[darkfire]]

Originally Posted by bayoab

Congratulations for blatently showing you haven't read any of the posts.

Also, how many groups do you see releasing SRTs.... yes thats right, almost none.

Not If you dont count the live action community like at d-addicts.

[NenMaster]

Originally Posted by bayoab

Congratulations for blatently showing you haven't read any of the posts.

Also, how many groups do you see releasing SRTs.... yes thats right, almost none.

yep i aint read it

but dont you think people will if multiple groups start releasing drm fansubs?

the source is the key to drm

[bayoab]

Originally Posted by NenMaster

yep i aint read it

but dont you think people will if multiple groups start releasing drm fansubs?

the source is the key to drm

No, SRT's dont support any of the crap like choosing a font or anything. Leechers will hate fansubbers for this. (This goes back to the other thread about releasing scripts.)

And I was not counting d-addicts or scriptclub or any of those. I mean of active fansubbing groups.

/It's not bogus and you know it.
//Not like any fansubber is seriously going to do it. If oversubbing is inefficiency, implementing DRM is 1000x the inefficiency.

[NenMaster]

i dont think drm FANsubs is a possiblity anyway, for one why drm if the source is readily availible?

[Starks]

Originally Posted by NenMaster

i dont think drm FANsubs is a possiblity anyway, for one why drm if the source is readily availible?

Your ignorance is showing through... TAKE THE TIME TO READ THE TOPIC!

[SirCanealot]

Originally Posted by bayoab

No, SRT's dont support any of the crap like choosing a font or anything. Leechers will hate fansubbers for this. (This goes back to the other thread about releasing scripts.)

SRTs don't support fonts at all. The users is FORCED to choose his own font.

[Lambda]

You can have ethics, or you can have DRM. You can't have both.

[BakaAngel]

Originally Posted by Lambda

You can have ethics, or you can have DRM. You can't have both.

Replace the word DRM with Sony.

[Ending]

[NoSanninWa]

Well said. Quite well said indeed. That would be an annoying consequence of DRM.

As an aside, I had no idea that Live-eviL was releasing Haruhi Porn.

[SirCanealot]

Except that it should be .avi.exe -- Window's feature in hiding the extension would hide the .exe and leave the .avi behind.
And .exe.avi would make it open in the MEdia Player ^^;;

:P

[Neaco]

Originally Posted by Wordplay

zonealarm image

Whoa, I thought that was real for one second there. I use Zone Alarm and clicking on this post took me directly to that post for some reason.

The slightly smaller text of "suspicious anime fansub" gave it away :P

[Ending]

I have no idea what you two are talking about. Can't you see that it is an obviously valid screenshot from an evil DRM trojan?

@ NoSanninWa: Well, you'd be surprised of what some leevils can do. Top-grade quality, by the way, with all kinds of "club-parties." Without that esper, obviously, but that's another matter.

[ChoBaka]

Originally Posted by bayoab

Direct transcripts are copyrighted. However, transcripts are generally a derivative work because they have commentary by the people writing them and other additions. Translations are not a derivative work and the right to make them is held by the owners of the copyright.

So if a translator added commentary and "other additions" to a translation, would it then become a derivative work (like the transcripts you're referring to)?

EDIT: Also, after seeing the whole fiasco with Sony's DRM "rootkit," I'm not too big on the idea of DRM itself. Computer security is far too important to risk compromising like in the Sony situation.