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ZeroXSEED · 2012-03-10, 22:33

Derailed?

demino_hellsin · 2012-03-10, 22:38

I mean, I think each one has more than a serious back story. I think the girls are supposed to fill out the niche most harems have.

girl - archetype - Orimura effect

Houki - cold aloof childhood friend, who is obsessed about kendo - violent mass of confused estrogen.

Cecilia - rich blonde ditz who can't cook - She actually fills the role quite well, growing more into the role, though it's because she seems to be growing "further" from Ichika at this point.

Rin - violent little tsundere pettanko - The hidden yandere side is a plus, but too much violent tsun and the dere almost never shows through.

Charlotte - the angelic but terrifying "wife" type - she is getting successively more prone to violence without reason.

Laura - innocent until blood is shed/possible McGuffin/mysterious waif - Makes it her life's mission to make Ichika her wife... wait what?

That about sums up my observations.

ZeroXSEED · 2012-03-10, 22:47

^ I am honestly 100% agree with that, and the more reason I don't like the characterization well, only the base personality.

agetreme · 2012-03-10, 22:48

Changing Nia's nationality to Japanese...

Change her IS to Uchigane HiMo
And add Prosopagnosia to her

Spoiler for Spoiler:

Edit: Probably a character is literally Ghost in Machine.....

demino_hellsin · 2012-03-10, 22:50

Even the Sarashikis are not exempt.

Tatenashi - awesome onee-san - way too over the top and normally this character type dances around the current harem. Tate outright curb-stomps them.

Kanzashi - the geeky victim of circumstances beyond her control(the variant which has a bone to pick with the protagonist) - half a chapter into her intro and she has a crush on him...

ZeroXSEED · 2012-03-10, 22:59

And then it got worse.....

That aside, tech wank time. How much you guys think I.S. weight without PIC/mass reduction/anti-gravity bullshit? I was thinking around somewhere between 250 kg and 750 kg.

demino_hellsin · 2012-03-10, 23:01

anywhere between 0.7 - 1.2 metric tons

EDIT: Is there a huge gap in skill between soldiers who've fought in war and those who are training for war?

ZeroXSEED · 2012-03-10, 23:14

Not skill maybe, but variation in experience may cause a huge gap between them. This is why Military training evolving continuously so the gap ain't too far.

StratoSpear · 2012-03-10, 23:20

can't cook up an exact value, Zero, sorry :<

Also Demi, there are differences.

Those who are training for war may know the standard engagement procedures. However, they have no idea what exactly goes on in the battlefield. Needless to say, they are prone to being "by-the-book" while in combat.

As for those who have fought in a war, they are already accustomed to the dynamics in the battlefield. Which means they have the knowledge of standard combat AND the capability to quickly adapt to changing situations (e.g outnumbered, outgunned).

Also, going out in a bit, here's a scene :>

Spoiler for Scene!:

demino_hellsin · 2012-03-10, 23:28

Another question:

If a powered armor moves on its own volition while the pilot is inside, what type of injuries am I expecting here? Bruising? strained joints? overworked muscles?

StratoSpear · 2012-03-10, 23:34

Strained joints and overworked muscles is a definite. Not sure about bruising though.

This is assuming the power armor in question is still limited to human articulation. (e.g, no 360 hip spin)

ZeroXSEED · 2012-03-10, 23:36

Overworked muscles.

Power armor will not designed to move beyond human's body mechanics, or else it'll twist and tear the pilots.

demino_hellsin · 2012-03-10, 23:38

It's moving within human articulation, but not movements the pilot is used to or speeds and reaction times the pilot even has. @_@

StratoSpear · 2012-03-10, 23:43

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Originally Posted by ZeroXSEED

Overworked muscles.

Power armor will not designed to move beyond human's body mechanics, or else it'll twist and tear the pilots.

Like how it was for that one poor guy in Iron Man 2... Must've sucked to be him.

agetreme · 2012-03-11, 00:02

Errr.... isn't the new suit going to be heavier? I mean it is overloaded with weaponry....

Moar edit:Wouldn't fighting in the power armor more difficult to use? hell I had problem with switching to the right weapon in Mass effect 3.... too many weapons until I cut out the Submachine gun

Edit: Yea... The tech part is done so I am starting to work on the characters......

ZeroXSEED · 2012-03-11, 00:06

Reaction speed always been the problem.

While static g-forces from acceleration can be solved using soft cushioning, dynamic g-forces such as fast moving limb will still affect the internal joint.

demino_hellsin · 2012-03-11, 00:37

So my idea to upgrade Ichika: even if it's a bad idea. He gets his own veritable AI harem

Setsura - the power

2nd AI - the brains and knowledge

the digitized "hero" of the white knight wars - experience

Eratas123 · 2012-03-11, 00:40

Well, I woke up and see more tech wank

StratoSpear · 2012-03-11, 00:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by agetreme

Errr.... isn't the new suit going to be heavier? I mean it is overloaded with weaponry....

The Proioxis? Not quite. Keep in mind, the weapons' ammo are in digital storage. Plus the fact that it went through a Shift from the Minerva Kai, which means refined armor design(Easier movement).

Quote:

Well, I woke up and see more tech wank

Morning.

agetreme · 2012-03-11, 00:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eratas123

Well, I woke up and see more tech wank

There is one post on character.....

Do you need somebody to explain Prosopagnosia?

2012-03-10, 22:33	Link #25321
ZeroXSEED I am no one Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Inside your head	Derailed? __________________

2012-03-10, 22:47	Link #25323
ZeroXSEED I am no one Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Inside your head	^ I am honestly 100% agree with that, and the more reason I don't like the characterization well, only the base personality. __________________

2012-03-10, 22:48	Link #25324
agetreme Just another Idiot Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Delusion world	Changing Nia's nationality to Japanese... Change her IS to Uchigane HiMo And add Prosopagnosia to her Spoiler for Spoiler: She choose to be an outcast because of her backstory..... let just say that she is too young to explain and nobody believe her anyway..... She play Visual Novel because she can remember characters (clothing, eyes, Hair, voice, title of the series.....), she hang around The Weirdo trio because their antic are erratic enough for her to recognize them without remembering their face. Edit: Probably a character is literally Ghost in Machine..... __________________ Ara Han

2012-03-10, 22:59	Link #25326
ZeroXSEED I am no one Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Inside your head	And then it got worse..... That aside, tech wank time. How much you guys think I.S. weight without PIC/mass reduction/anti-gravity bullshit? I was thinking around somewhere between 250 kg and 750 kg. __________________

2012-03-10, 23:14	Link #25328
ZeroXSEED I am no one Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Inside your head	Not skill maybe, but variation in experience may cause a huge gap between them. This is why Military training evolving continuously so the gap ain't too far. __________________

2012-03-10, 22:38	Link #25322
demino_hellsin That one guy Join Date: Nov 2011	I mean, I think each one has more than a serious back story. I think the girls are supposed to fill out the niche most harems have. girl - archetype - Orimura effect Houki - cold aloof childhood friend, who is obsessed about kendo - violent mass of confused estrogen. Cecilia - rich blonde ditz who can't cook - She actually fills the role quite well, growing more into the role, though it's because she seems to be growing "further" from Ichika at this point. Rin - violent little tsundere pettanko - The hidden yandere side is a plus, but too much violent tsun and the dere almost never shows through. Charlotte - the angelic but terrifying "wife" type - she is getting successively more prone to violence without reason. Laura - innocent until blood is shed/possible McGuffin/mysterious waif - Makes it her life's mission to make Ichika her wife... wait what? That about sums up my observations.

2012-03-10, 22:50	Link #25325
demino_hellsin That one guy Join Date: Nov 2011	Even the Sarashikis are not exempt. Tatenashi - awesome onee-san - way too over the top and normally this character type dances around the current harem. Tate outright curb-stomps them. Kanzashi - the geeky victim of circumstances beyond her control(the variant which has a bone to pick with the protagonist) - half a chapter into her intro and she has a crush on him...

2012-03-10, 23:01	Link #25327
demino_hellsin That one guy Join Date: Nov 2011	anywhere between 0.7 - 1.2 metric tons EDIT: Is there a huge gap in skill between soldiers who've fought in war and those who are training for war?

2012-03-10, 23:20	Link #25329
StratoSpear Titans Test Team Pilot Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: The Elysium	can't cook up an exact value, Zero, sorry :< Also Demi, there are differences. Those who are training for war may know the standard engagement procedures. However, they have no idea what exactly goes on in the battlefield. Needless to say, they are prone to being "by-the-book" while in combat. As for those who have fought in a war, they are already accustomed to the dynamics in the battlefield. Which means they have the knowledge of standard combat AND the capability to quickly adapt to changing situations (e.g outnumbered, outgunned). Also, going out in a bit, here's a scene :> Spoiler for Scene!: ========== In Training Hall Seven’s arena ========== Tsurugi and the others watch as Inami, in the Proioxis battle armor, twirls a double-beam blade lance around. “Wow… He’s already accustomed to it?” Cecilia asks. “That’s Ina-kun for you. He has a fascination for lance-type weapons, especially when they’re double-bladed types.” “Mastering lance-type weapons are pretty challenging from what I heard…” Iris remarks while Cecilia turns to her. “Well, Ling uses a double-bladed lance too.” “Then she must be pretty good as well… Lance users, especially double-bladed ones, are quite rare.” Inami then plants the lance onto the ground, staring at the weapon through the helmet’s optical visors. “Man, it’s much lighter than the Minerva’s! I like it!” He remarks cheerfully as Fal sounds up to him from the comms speakers. “That’ll be the Moonlight, the Proioxis’ primary double-beam bladed lance weapon.” “Cool! What else is in the arsenal?” He asks while releasing the Moonlight lance into digital storage. “Let see… We have quite an array of weapons.” She replies while bringing up a hologram display of the Proioxis on the helmet’s visor display. “In addition to the Moonlight, you have four ‘Lacerta’ beam sabers. Two partially-concealed in each of the unit’s shoulders and the remaining two being on the unit’s knees.” “Ah… I see.” He says while looking at the Lacerta’s placements labeled on the hologram. “Two ‘Aaliyah’ beam foot blades under the tip of the unit’s feet…” “Foot blades? Like the ones on Houki-chan’s unit?” “Yes! Last bit to the melee category are the ‘Agito’ beam arm blades.” “Arm blades like the ones on the Minerva?” “With an additional pair of beam blades on the unit’s elbows, giving the unit a grand total of six beam emitters on both forearms!” “Wow… That’s a lot of beam blades.” “Yeap! Moving on to range weaponry… You have two ‘Dreissen’ triple-barreled guns concealed under the panels on the unit’s forearms.” “Dreissen, huh?” He raises his arm as the front panels separate and shift open, revealing said weapon. “Uh huh~! It can fire either solid or beam ammo so as you can engage different defenses accordingly.” “Whoa… Really?” “Really really! Next up are your… remote weapons!” “Remote weapons…? You don’t mean like the ones Cecilia has on her unit, do you?” “Not exactly in terms of looks.” The hologram then zooms in on the Proioxis’ torso with a couple of labels pointing at the protruding thruster pods on both shoulders. “These are the ‘Athena’ remote bits. While they are meant to be detached and operate individually, they can also fire while fixated, acting as shoulder cannons.” “Sweet! But… How do I control them?” “The same way you do for the Minerva’s Pitone cannons. Only difference is they’re mobile, and they can fire various types of ammo as well.” “Ah… List them out, please.” “Of course! You can switch between four types. The solid, hi-explosive ‘Stark’ slugs, sonic ‘Impact’ shots, ‘Beam’ and finally, the barrier-penetrating ‘Magnus’ bullets.” “That’s… Wow, I’m… I’m speechless.” “Simply put, Inami-san, the Athena bits are the collective manifestation of all the Minerva’s range weaponry, integrating all of them into one weapon.” “Awesome!” He exclaims in delight, followed by Fal giggling to herself. “I’m glad you like it, Inami-san.” “I sure do!” Tsurugi then walks to him and taps his shoulder. “Loving the new unit, Ina-kun?” “Yeap! Seems like the Proioxis boasts much more power compared to the Minerva!” “Five times more power, actually. I managed to refine the Iwaki’s performance, segregating unused functions such that more power can be channeled to areas like barrier strength, beam weapon potency and other useful applications.” __________________ "You cannot be bad at watching a movie. You cannot be bad at listening to an album. ...But you can be bad at playing a videogame, and the game will punish you and deny you access to the rest of the videogame." Last edited by StratoSpear; 2012-03-10 at 23:35.

2012-03-10, 23:28	Link #25330
demino_hellsin That one guy Join Date: Nov 2011	Another question: If a powered armor moves on its own volition while the pilot is inside, what type of injuries am I expecting here? Bruising? strained joints? overworked muscles?

2012-03-10, 23:34	Link #25331
StratoSpear Titans Test Team Pilot Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: The Elysium	Strained joints and overworked muscles is a definite. Not sure about bruising though. This is assuming the power armor in question is still limited to human articulation. (e.g, no 360 hip spin) __________________ "You cannot be bad at watching a movie. You cannot be bad at listening to an album. ...But you can be bad at playing a videogame, and the game will punish you and deny you access to the rest of the videogame."

2012-03-10, 23:36	Link #25332
ZeroXSEED I am no one Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Inside your head	Overworked muscles. Power armor will not designed to move beyond human's body mechanics, or else it'll twist and tear the pilots. __________________

2012-03-10, 23:38	Link #25333
demino_hellsin That one guy Join Date: Nov 2011	It's moving within human articulation, but not movements the pilot is used to or speeds and reaction times the pilot even has. @_@

2012-03-11, 00:02	Link #25335
agetreme Just another Idiot Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Delusion world	Errr.... isn't the new suit going to be heavier? I mean it is overloaded with weaponry.... Moar edit:Wouldn't fighting in the power armor more difficult to use? hell I had problem with switching to the right weapon in Mass effect 3.... too many weapons until I cut out the Submachine gun Edit: Yea... The tech part is done so I am starting to work on the characters...... __________________ Ara Han

2012-03-11, 00:06	Link #25336
ZeroXSEED I am no one Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Inside your head	Reaction speed always been the problem. While static g-forces from acceleration can be solved using soft cushioning, dynamic g-forces such as fast moving limb will still affect the internal joint. __________________

2012-03-11, 00:37	Link #25337
demino_hellsin That one guy Join Date: Nov 2011	So my idea to upgrade Ichika: even if it's a bad idea. He gets his own veritable AI harem Setsura - the power 2nd AI - the brains and knowledge the digitized "hero" of the white knight wars - experience

2012-03-11, 00:40	Link #25338
Eratas123 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	Well, I woke up and see more tech wank __________________