Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha ViVid Manga Discussion

[Keroko]

Originally Posted by Jimmy C

It's not that farfetched. Corona's golems are like "equipment" under her control. She gets punched out, they go inert. OTOH, Lutecia's summons are seperate, independent people under her orders. It'd be like bringing another fighter on your side in a one-on-one match, hardly fair for the other girl.
However, we have yet to confirm whether she truly is forbidden to use her summons. Also, there's the matter of the "true witch" contestant. We don't know what's the nature of the creatures with her and whether she uses them in the ring.

That's still a rule that would severely handicap any summoner, considering their combat style would naturally rely on a summon being present. A far better rule would be for the match to be ended the moment the summoner gets punched out, not ban summons altogether.

[Akiyoshi]

Or to put a limit on the number or height of summons he/she can call to the battlefield, to mantain his/her fightstyle without allowing them to summon a small army against a single individual. Summoners deserve some love indeed.

[00-Raiser]

I don't see why Lutecia's summons would be forbidden. Sure they could be active even after Lutecia is knocked out, but I'm sure the match would be called if that happened like Keroko said.

Summoning does give the numbers advantage but then it would be the opponent's fault for not preventing the summoning in the first place.

[Akiyoshi]

Originally Posted by 00-Raiser

Summoning does give the numbers advantage but then it would be the opponent's fault for not preventing the summoning in the first place.

Yup, Otto pointed very well the weaknesses of golem creation to Corona and most of those weakpoints can be exploited on summoners as well xD.

[00-Raiser]

Then again, this is a magic girl series that wants to be a mecha show

"No, we must wait until they transform before we destroy them!"

[Akiyoshi]

Originally Posted by 00-Raiser

"No, we must wait until they transform before we destroy them!"

That reminds me of a theory i had about why monsters wait patiently during Sailor Moon's transformation: The multicolored flashes of light during the secuence provoke a semi-epileptic effect on the monsters who suffer low-level attacks that prevents them from doing anything until the transformation is over XD.

On this tournament is showed by Miura and Micaiah that the mage is at least allowed to tranform into their magical clothings before starting the fight. I doubt they'll go to the lenghts of allowing a summoner to at least perform one summon before starting the fight as one of the weaknesses pointed by Otto is that the creator/summoner can be attacked during the performing of the summoning spell xD.

[Mirron]

Pretty sure Lutecia isn't just going to be a D-Rank mage in this. No telling how powerful she'll be, exactly, but if she manages to beat her foes as a D-rank... that's kind of scary skilled. I'm not saying Lutecia isn't, but assuming the ranks probably go up to at least A, that's a high level of skill in my eyes.

[Jimmy C]

Originally Posted by Akiyoshi

On this tournament is showed by Miura and Micaiah that the mage is at least allowed to tranform into their magical clothings before starting the fight.

That is not entirely correct. The contestants are supposed to set up before getting into the ring. What's the point of mandating all the constants to have devices of a certain level for safety if they don't use them?

[Justin_Brett]

I feel I should point out there are many, many episodes in transforming robot shows that focus on the villains preventing them from combining into the robot.

[dahak]

Originally Posted by DezoPenguin

Lutecia has a major handicap, namely the fact that she isn't (apparently) allowed to use her primary power-set (much as I'd love to have her get beaten down by some arrogant competitor and then use Hakutenoh to affect an attitude adjustment. ), which might explain why she's eligible.

Another question, though, would be what local tournaments would Nanoha, Fate, and Hayate enter, since all of them resided on a non-administrated world until they were 15.

*suddenly remembers the upper age limit is 19 and has the mental image of StrikerS Fate and Nanoha entering the tournament*

IIRC isn't Subaru still under the age limit.

[00-Raiser]

I doubt she could enter since she's trained Bureau personnel. You don't let pros fight in an amateur tournament.

[Dark Wing]

Originally Posted by dahak

IIRC isn't Subaru still under the age limit.

no she's 19 years old in Vivid meaning she can't enter because she at the cut off age.

[Keroko]

Considering they talked about Erio and Caro entering, Bureau personnel aren't barred from the competition. I think the main reason Subaru won't enter is because she simply isn't interested in competitions of strength. The girl doesn't really like fighting, the main reason she joined the TSAB was to enter the disaster management and save people.

[aers]

... where did my month go ...

Spoiler for Vivid 26 text summary JP:

エリートクラス2回戦は無事終了し、3回戦は来週に。
ヴィヴィオたちはそれぞれ家に帰り、同門対決だから大変だと思いつつも特訓に励む。

そして祝日に行われたプライムマッチ。会場で合流したシャンテ、ルー、ヴィヴィオ、リオは結界魔導師エルス ・タスミンとハリーの試合を観戦することに。人気で上回るハリーに対し、
エルスは新型バリアジャケット「ブラックジャスティス」を披露。因縁の試合のゴングが鳴る。

一方、会場にいかなかったコロナはオットーと一緒に走りこみを行っていた。休憩中、「アインに自分は勝つこ とができるか」というコロナの問いに思わず口ごもるオットー。
コロナは、自分でもまともに戦ったら勝てるはずがないと言うが、応援してくれるみんなのために「3回戦はわ たしが勝つ！」と力強く宣言。
アインのほうもサンドバッグを打ちながら、コロナを見くびらず、開幕から全力で倒しにいきます という。

再び試合会場に戻る。
仕掛けたのはエルス。「アレスティングネット展開！捕獲開始！」
チェーンにつながれた無数の手錠がハリーに襲いかかる。こんな鎖ごとき…とハリーがうそぶいたところで、エ ルスが転送と遠隔操作を上手に使い、ハリーの死角からチェーンを
巻きつかせ、「ホールドフィニーッシュ！」　無数の手錠に腕や足や、さらには胴体を拘束される ハリー。
しかしハリーは自らの右手ごと手錠を破壊。（ライフ12200右腕強度打撲及び熱傷）
「てめーをぶちのめすにゃ、片手が使えりゃ十分だ！」　
自由になった右手で「ガンフレイム！」巨大な魔力の奔流がエルスを飲み込む。
防御したにもかかわらず、叫びと共に吹き飛ばされるエルス（ライフ6400）
「残念だったなデコメガネ。この1年で強くなったのはおめーだけじゃねーんだよ。とっとと上がってこいよ。 まだ終わりじゃねえんだろ」
「あ、あたりまえですっ！」

TO BE CONTINUED

Spoiler for Vivid 26 pics:

*ducks back out of the thread*

[Akiyoshi]

My rants finished quickier this month the last two weeks were very calm xD

Mmmmmhhh... Lutecia enters the stage? Good xD!

[Tiresias]

Originally Posted by aers

Spoiler for Vivid 26 pics:

...Lutecia's new Barrier Jacket seemd like something out of Strike Witches *sweatdrops*

[00-Raiser]

Thought it was inconsistent with what was shown in chapter 25, but her crotch region is covered by a SFX so I guess that's why.

[Akiyoshi]

I see London, i see France...

[Justin_Brett]

...the announcer girl fights with handcuffs?

[Akiyoshi]

Originally Posted by Justin_Brett

...the announcer girl fights with handcuffs?

You're under arrest?

Spoiler for or...:

...or probably a submission fight-style reminiscent of Ryomou Shimei xDU?