Is it wrong for a man to strike a woman in self dence no matter what?

[emotionless_teenage]

i still feel attacking women by directly striking it is unmanly(c'mon,you wouldn't hit a girl with a back kick,right?)

but there are other alternatives,like joint lock,throwdown,or joint manipulation

[Vikitehwaffu]

Originally Posted by emotionless_teenage

i still feel attacking women by directly striking it is unmanly(c'mon,you wouldn't hit a girl with a back kick,right?)

but there are other alternatives,like joint lock,throwdown,or joint manipulation

I don't know grappling or joint locks, so if a back kick took a woman or man down, I would do it if they were hurting me.

[RDF2050]

Of course I will do it to defend myselft do you think a will allowed a person to take my life without fighting. I am not favor of any kind of women violence but it is about save my life i just have do it

[LeoXiao]

Originally Posted by Vikitehwaffu

Yeah it's better to hold a woman down

and then you can "punish" her correctly.

[Xaong]

Originally Posted by LeoXiao

and then you can "punish" her correctly.

When they read that kind of crap, no wonder why some women want to hit some men.

[Mystique]

Originally Posted by Xaong

When they read that kind of crap, no wonder why some women want to hit some men.

No rather, it just makes us even more cyncial and the nice guys wonder why we give them such a hard time with our initial hostility. -.-

[Thingle]

Originally Posted by Xaong

When they read that kind of crap, no wonder why some women want to hit some men.

Naaah. There are much more infuriating things than that.... some written by women.

[klowny]

its not nice to discriminate against women but only if your being Threaten

[Xaong]

Originally Posted by Mystique

No rather, it just makes us even more cyncial and the nice guys wonder why we give them such a hard time with our initial hostility. -.-

So true... And the feminism movement exists because of the bad behaviors of men (not all of them thanksfully) That's why it's kind of hilarious to see some of them complaining about it. The roots of evil are on their side! Don't blame the women!

Originally Posted by Thingle

Naaah. There are much more infuriating things than that.... some written by women.

That's right, but in majority the infuriating talk come from men, and the fact that some women have the same mentality doesn't excuse them at all

[Thingle]

Feminism died when women already achieved equality. Now, they want to be like men. They want to enjoy what we enjoy, have what we have... However, most are unwilling to let go of those certain "privileges" we men don't enjoy.

But you see, that has its consequences too...

[Xaong]

Originally Posted by Thingle

Feminism died when women already achieved equality. Now, they want to be like men. They want to enjoy what we enjoy, have what we have... However, most are unwilling to let go of those certain "privileges" we men don't enjoy.

But you see, that has its consequences too...

Has it happened yet??? Obviously not In a lot of countries, women still suffer because "they are not men" and don't have the same basic rights as human beings. And in the other countries, they are still discriminated in some ways. Not earning the same salaries for instance And I don't even begin to talk about some disgusting institution like the porn industry

[X20A-Strike]

eh porn, it depends there are 2 kind of in porn the willing one (which isnt a problem men do it women do it etc and in porn the pay check is higher for women than men ) ) but it's true that there is also a disturbing side to this when someone is being forced in to something they dont want (and offcourse ho they force? women, damn beast) its a free world as long as it doesent disturbe others the bimbo's and dudes can ride for money till they grow old, but when it comes to forcing someone in to something like this ,well the person doing the forcing should just be tortured till the end of time thats beyond cruelty in some cases

[Xaong]

Originally Posted by strike105x

eh porn, it depends there are 2 kind of in porn the willing one (which isnt a problem men do it women do it etc and in porn the pay check is higher for women than men ) ) but it's true that there is also a disturbing side to this when someone is being forced in to something they dont want (and offcourse ho they force? women, damn beast) its a free world as long as it doesent disturbe others the bimbo's and dudes can ride for money till they grow old, but when it comes to forcing someone in to something like this ,well the person doing the forcing should just be tortured till the end of time thats beyond cruelty in some cases

That isn't what makes me sad, but you're right about the women and men who are "forced" to do things. That type of problems still exists, and it doesn't happen only in the porn industry, and not only about sex...

My problem with it was to see how it can influence people like you and me. Some men expect the women to be sex beasts and hot like in the porn movies. Some women think they have to become as efficient or as hot as the women from said movies That's the image of the women that is promoted by that which I personally dislike.

[Thingle]

Originally Posted by Xaong

Has it happened yet??? Obviously not In a lot of countries, women still suffer because "they are not men" and don't have the same basic rights as human beings. And in the other countries, they are still discriminated in some ways. Not earning the same salaries for instance And I don't even begin to talk about some disgusting institution like the porn industry

However in some societies that have gender equality established, I don't see any use for feminists.

Not that there's anything wrong in pursuing a "man career" (there is nothing wrong with it), but at least tread it like a man would (no lame ass leaves, no affirmative action, no retarded (one sided) anti-violence laws, basically, no P.C. crap that some would try to push).

[Xaong]

Originally Posted by Thingle

However in some societies that have gender equality established, I don't see any use for feminists.

Not that there's anything wrong in pursuing a "man career" (there is nothing wrong with it), but at least tread it like a man would (no lame ass leaves, no affirmative action, no retarded (one sided) anti-violence laws, basically, no P.C. crap that some would try to push).

Established "on a paper". As I said, the fact that for instance a woman doesn't earn the same salary "in many case" for the same job prove that the perfect equality is mostly on paper only.

About what your are talking about, I don't know the laws of your country but in most ones the anti-violence laws aren't just for women And if we always talk more about the problems of some women, it's because the violence at work or at home are mostly from men towards women. Same about the sexual harrassment You can dislike the fact that the people talk less about the problems of women who mistreat men, but you can't deny statistics

[Thingle]

Originally Posted by Xaong

Established "on a paper". As I said, the fact that for instance a woman doesn't earn the same salary "in many case" for the same job prove that the perfect equality is mostly on paper only.

About what your are talking about, I don't know the laws of your country but in most ones the anti-violence laws aren't just for women And if we always talk more about the problems of some women, it's because the violence at work or at home are mostly from men towards women. Same about the sexual harrassment You can dislike the fact that the people talk less about the problems of women who mistreat men, but you can't deny statistics

Do you think men would admit to being abused by women?

[Xaong]

Originally Posted by Thingle

Do you think men would admit to being abused by women?

That's your only argument?

Seriously speaking, if a man sees a problem about complaining because the attacker is a woman, then he is stupid (I don't know how to put it otherwise. Sorry ). It also proves that said man doesn't see the women as his equal. So the problem is the same, equality? On paper only

[Thingle]

Originally Posted by Xaong

That's your only argument?

Seriously speaking, if a man sees a problem about complaining because the attacker is a woman, then he is stupid (I don't know how to put it otherwise. Sorry ). It also proves that said man doesn't see the women as his equal. So the problem is the same, equality? On paper only

This brings you back to the question. If you feel uncomfortable being hit by a girl, then at least try to hit her back.... Now when she bitches about this huge bruise on her cheek and reports to the police, guess who gets into trouble... and why?

[Xaong]

Originally Posted by Thingle

This brings you back to the question. If you feel uncomfortable being hit by a girl, then at least try to hit her back.... Now when she bitches about this huge bruise on her cheek and reports to the police, guess who gets into trouble... and why?

Good point. The police is more willing to think that the attacker is the husband, rather than his wife; but it brings another point (which works for both side), if someone attacks you with a pencil, you don't have to strike back by using a tank. If you can prove that your wife did hit you by showing bruises, they will question your wife. If she is the only one who has bruises, then you will have a problem.

You're somewhat right, but it doesn't play upon the statistics that much, I think.

[Thingle]

Actually I was trying to address the issue of statistics. If only the woman reports, then it would naturally show that more women are abused.