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Archon_Wing · 2011-07-03, 18:49

Heh! Not too bad for a fillerish episode. And lol@ Minko's sunglasses, I'd rather have them on Ohana. And Ohana just listens to Yuina; it has the choreography of a bad wrestling script.

And of course, more of miserable Minko (yay?)with a bunch of idiots chasing her. Good men just don't exist in this anime.

Funny that they brought up "engaged to an inn"; Ohana might just contest this.

There's some interesting development for Yuina and her finance; I get the feeling that Yuina's not really ready for it, and her fiance might not be up to the task of running an inn. But hey, that's life, soo shit's unpredictable.

Ohana would rather not think of the whole Kou think so she drowns herself into the fun and work, though it's only fun here, but she's still obsessive about doing something.

Not bad, 7/10 for an episode that does its job. OP is better, I don't like this ed as much.

Texas84 · 2011-07-03, 18:54

Call me creepy but Ohana was rockin that bikini.

She is still my favorite. Has been from the start. And I guess the inn had plenty of time to plan for this trip and not book too many customers.

Lessing-love · 2011-07-03, 19:16

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Originally Posted by Texas84

Call me creepy but Ohana was rockin that bikini.

She is still my favorite. Has been from the start. And I guess the inn had plenty of time to plan for this trip and not book too many customers.

Agree. I don't think she would've worn something like that at beginning of the show.

Kaoru Chujo · 2011-07-03, 20:08

I hate to make Kou the center of the discussion here, but I really think we are all (me included, I guess) letting our personal preferences run away with us. To say Ohana is different at the core than she was at the beginning seems excessive to me. That doesn't happen in six months. She is still the same person, but with a wider field to operate in, more experiences, and more confidence. In episode one, she was already the serious one, contrasted with her irresponsible mother. She would so have worn that bikini at the start. She's a modern city girl with a writer mother. Just with no real understanding of love/sex/relationships.

To say that it would be forced to bring Kou back to her makes no sense to me. He has been present in her mind in almost all episodes, as she came to realize how much she liked him. I'm not saying I can actually think of a natural way to bring him back, however. I'll leave that to the writers and hope for the best -- whatever happens. All options are still on the table. Maybe he comes to work for a summer? Maybe having a boyfriend in Tokyo is a plus for Ohana, letting her fend off local boys? And maybe the relationship evaporates or is replaced. At this point, I have confidence that the writers will give us something emotionally strong, anyway.

My own experiences make me much more optimistic about long-distance romance than most people appear to be. It can work, I guarantee it.

Leo_Otaku · 2011-07-03, 20:17

I like how the beach episode and hot spring was merged!!! Really funny how I get insight on how Japanese school field trips work from reading and seeing them XD.

Great episode I liked seeing the insight of Yuina's back story a bit. I somehow think that they are going to need Ohana's help that the part timers are gone.

As to Fiance's management, I also disagree with that style. I think he is letting his authority get to his head, rather than thinking about the employee's feelings. Even if they seem like slackers XD

Lessing-love · 2011-07-03, 20:18

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Originally Posted by Kaoru Chujo

My own experiences make me much more optimistic about long-distance romance than most people appear to be. It can work, I guarantee it.

I don't think it's all about not thinking long distance romances can work. We don't really see Ohana and Ko making a serious effort to make their relationship work so far. If they did, fewer people would find their relationship insufferably dull. Some of us want more in relationships than cute wistfulness. (which is why I kinda don't ship anything on this show. The friendship and family bonding is done so much better.) I would support this relationship if Ko and Ohana ACTUALLY DID SOMETHING. It's so tiresome to watch them agonize and "HNNNGH" over and over, and their isn't really any real depth or growth.

Matilda8 · 2011-07-03, 21:44

I liked the op is very similar to the first, I loved the scene of Minko with all that stuff it make me lol,

in reference of Ko I felt that now he is more distant from Ohana cause before he was beside her in the same train and now he is outside it, it caught his attention for a moment but he let it pass with indifference while Ohana is inside that train or going after it , I don’t know if this could mean something but for me that makes me think that Ko and Ohana are going in different directions and their interest are opposites.

For a moment I doubt about this because Ko with his cel could mean that he was texting Ohana but I don’t think so because in the first op he also was playing with his phone with Ohana beside him so probably he was just playing or doing something else except txt Ohana.

The episode itself i liked it was fun , i loved the boy that confesed Minko but i fear his role will be insignificant but I have hopes cause he has similar screen time to Ko (ok i exgereted) it takes to much corage to do what he does in front of everyone and it was amusing how he and his friends were making complot before about consfessing Minko second round and she hearing everthing and after when Minko told him Balunt and he said so that means that u are going out with me? and then chasing after her and falling poor guy, but in the good note for him Minko blushed and call him like he call Ohana that means something at least he isn’t indifferent to her I would like to think. I hope Minko could give him a chance he is persistent and is willing to win her heart although he knows she is in love with someone else.

Yuina i think her personality is similar to Ohana´s mom the same with Yosuke and Tohru. Im not to found of her as I was hoping, I like Yosuke he is a hard working person I don’t know why Minko got surpised at how he treated the waitresses since she receive the same trate from Tohru. I don’t like that Yuina drop the bomb at the end it was bad timing I mean is true what she said about the waitresses I don’t mind that but how can she said what she said after in a moment of crisis like that and after his fiancé had been humillated it was the time to show him support and if she was thinking in saying that she could had say it in private or the night before but no, to make things worst she wait to do it in front of everybody she was a little selfish here I think. But we will see how she redeem herself in the next episode.

Grey · 2011-07-03, 22:09

Cool, a look at another inn and some development for Yuina. When I saw it was a beach episode I thought "Filler, what." but it turned out to be more than that. I wonder if Ohana and Nakochi will offer to help as emergency staff if the management doesn't have reliable backup part-timers. Maybe.

Hrum, still looking forward to some 5cm/s scenes with Ko, but no matter how he shows again it will probably be a while, as already predicted.

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Originally Posted by Lessing-love

I don't think it's all about not thinking long distance romances can work. We don't really see Ohana and Ko making a serious effort to make their relationship work so far. If they did, fewer people would find their relationship insufferably dull. Some of us want more in relationships than cute wistfulness. (which is why I kinda don't ship anything on this show. The friendship and family bonding is done so much better.) I would support this relationship if Ko and Ohana ACTUALLY DID SOMETHING. It's so tiresome to watch them agonize and "HNNNGH" over and over, and their isn't really any real depth or growth.

Hahaha, that's true, Ohana had some complicated thoughts but decided she couldn't go with long distance, and Ko accepted that she wasn't really going for him (though he didn't know much of her reasoning).

I always thought their relationship was pretty sweet though. Then again, I'm the type of person who liked Mashiro and Azuki's relationship in Bakuman.

Lessing-love · 2011-07-03, 22:29

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Originally Posted by Grey

I always thought their relationship was pretty sweet though. Then again, I'm the type of person who liked Mashiro and Azuki's relationship in Bakuman.

But see, Mashiro and Azuki's relationship is actually really different. They actually have very clear sense of commitment/devotion to one another, and actually know what they want in life and in their relationships. They actually both make an effort to make their relationship work and ultimately spend the rest of their lives together. That's why the romance in Bakuman works for me and the romance in Hanasaku Iroha mostly really doesn't. Mashiro and Azuki are an appealing couple to me because they're so obviously incredibly tenacious about each other, and hence whatever problems they may have, their relationship ultimately makes them come off as strong people.

deadite · 2011-07-03, 22:44

Someone mention that the OP had the feel of Ohana leaving the inn. She's on the train and she is reliving her memories in the inn? Some circumstance that forces her out of the inn even if she doesn't want too?

Archon_Wing · 2011-07-03, 22:46

Grandma's probably gonna go soon... :S

kk2extreme · 2011-07-03, 22:56

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Originally Posted by Archon_Wing

Grandma's probably gonna go soon... :S

Just because she visited her husband's grave?

Back to the hotel, the employee's are not the best, breaking so many rules on the jobs, but yelling won't really solve anything though

I am blaming HR who hired the part timers, how did they even pass the interview with those attitudes

Kaoru Chujo · 2011-07-03, 23:13

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Originally Posted by Lessing-love

I don't think it's all about not thinking long distance romances can work. We don't really see Ohana and Ko making a serious effort to make their relationship work so far. If they did, fewer people would find their relationship insufferably dull. Some of us want more in relationships than cute wistfulness. (which is why I kinda don't ship anything on this show. The friendship and family bonding is done so much better.) I would support this relationship if Ko and Ohana ACTUALLY DID SOMETHING. It's so tiresome to watch them agonize and "HNNNGH" over and over, and their isn't really any real depth or growth.

Good points, lol. I think Kou is making efforts, but Ohana is still confused. Doesn't even know what love is. To me, there's a lot more there than "cute wistfulness," more in the nature of angst and confusion. Therefore not dull. But I get the point.

On the other hand, I might suggest that this episode provided a couple of ways forward regarding Minchi. One, Tooru might see this other guy after her and start to notice her as a woman. Two, she might give in a bit and go out with the guy, leaving Tooru free to go after Ohana. But I didn't see any hint of that in the new OP....

serenade_beta · 2011-07-03, 23:23

It felt like a filler type of episode (what did you expect?), but it did start to develop Yuina and will continue on the next episode, so it was okay.
It was also satisfying seeing that cousin of hers get beat up mentally from all sides.

Well, I wouldn't suggest he date a girl like Yuina anyways. You'd have to stalk her to make sure she wasn't cheating.

OP was... that singer again...! As always, the song is okay, but that voice is seriously just... no. Kou-chan appeared in it, so it is almost sure that he will come back eventually, now.
The ED was just bad. The previous one was so good, yet this... I couldn't even tell they were singing in Japanese at times.

Guardian Enzo · 2011-07-03, 23:44

All this carnage here is really vastly entertaining. Mari Okada is, as she has always been, the Mistress of trolling. She'll tell you what's going to happen when she's damn good and ready, and not a moment before. And she'll misdirect you constantly until that moment. I love it.

0utf0xZer0 · 2011-07-04, 01:27

Much as I loved the drama of some recent episodes, I have to admit its nice to see the show return to fun mode for a bit. This episode had the sort of charm I watch shows like K-On! for, but with a meatier plot and better rounded characters.

And of course, the conflict between Yuina and her fiancee actually highlights Ohana's struggles. Which really makes me think that Tomoe is going to end up marrying Enishi, this series really has a thing for making subplots relevent to the main plot in some way.

Also, I'm sure at least a few people have noticed this by now, but it finally occurred to me that there's one big difference between this and True Tears aside from True Tears being straight romance and this being coming of age - Hana-Saku Iroha tells the story from a girl's POV (which explains why it kept reminding me a bit of shows like K-On).

night train · 2011-07-04, 02:22

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Originally Posted by deadite

Someone mention that the OP had the feel of Ohana leaving the inn. She's on the train and she is reliving her memories in the inn? Some circumstance that forces her out of the inn even if she doesn't want too?

I feel the same way after looking at the new OP. The train seems like it's heading in opposite direction as shown in ep.1. Also the images of the fading images strongly supports the ideas of Ohana's experience at Kissuiso as she leaves. Ominous feelings about the episodes ahead

~Yami~ · 2011-07-04, 02:57

yeah! there is still Ko in opening... means that Ko will enter again in the future episodes (maybe around episode 23 or 24)

poor Yosuke... now we have two broken relationship..... too many fast-forward scenes in this episode... quite confused but finally I can see a lot Yuina's scene so I'll give 9/10... xD

Roger Rambo · 2011-07-04, 06:32

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Originally Posted by Kaoru Chujo

Good points, lol. I think Kou is making efforts, but Ohana is still confused. Doesn't even know what love is. To me, there's a lot more there than "cute wistfulness," more in the nature of angst and confusion. Therefore not dull. But I get the point.

Efforts that all met in rather pathetic fizzling failure. If they had ended in dramatic failure he might be somewhere, but the fizzling just doesn't leave much of an impression. And to elaborate on what Lessing-Love has said. While there's plenty of angst and confusion going about, the principle core feeling that Ohana seems to have for Ko is "cute wistfulness". That's the extent of her relationship with Ko at this point.

What are Ohana and Ko like as a couple? Beyond being wistful and cute? We've got no bloody clue. Their interactions haven't been sustained or complex enough for the audience to get any kind of measure of that. If the interactions between Ohana and the other characters on the show were to be likened to fine cooked goods, then Ko/Ohana at this point is just raw undiluted sugar.

I don't think it can really be compared to the relationship that existed in Bakuman.

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Originally Posted by Guardian Enzo

All this carnage here is really vastly entertaining. Mari Okada is, as she has always been, the Mistress of trolling. She'll tell you what's going to happen when she's damn good and ready, and not a moment before. And she'll misdirect you constantly until that moment. I love it.

There's a difference between trolling and bad writing

Romance in a series/book is like baking. You've got to take raw ingredients and make them into something via complex chemical reactions. Right now Ohana/Ko bassically consists of raw sugar. You wouldn't serve that to someone at a restaurant would you?

FMeral16 · 2011-07-04, 07:05

Aside from that one minute where Ohana just HAD to think about Ko and tear up, wasn't this episode much more fun and refreshing? Basically, this show is so much better when there's no mindless relationship drama with Ohana.

The confession to Minko was great, and I'm pretty sure there would be far less Ko haters if he tried like that. Actually I'm pretty sure the existence of that unnamed male character while spawn more Ko haters if anything.

Finally, Yuina gets a little more time in the spotlight, though I'm a bit lost still on her relationship with Yosuke. When they were talking, after he brought up his idea of having an inn with her as the manager, he didn't really seem sure that he loved the profession when Yuina asked if he did. She rejected his plan at the end but maybe he was only doing it to impress her in the first place.

I hope to see more of Nako....

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2011-07-03, 20:08	Link #44
Kaoru Chujo Yuuki Aoi Join Date: Jul 2004	I hate to make Kou the center of the discussion here, but I really think we are all (me included, I guess) letting our personal preferences run away with us. To say Ohana is different at the core than she was at the beginning seems excessive to me. That doesn't happen in six months. She is still the same person, but with a wider field to operate in, more experiences, and more confidence. In episode one, she was already the serious one, contrasted with her irresponsible mother. She would so have worn that bikini at the start. She's a modern city girl with a writer mother. Just with no real understanding of love/sex/relationships. To say that it would be forced to bring Kou back to her makes no sense to me. He has been present in her mind in almost all episodes, as she came to realize how much she liked him. I'm not saying I can actually think of a natural way to bring him back, however. I'll leave that to the writers and hope for the best -- whatever happens. All options are still on the table. Maybe he comes to work for a summer? Maybe having a boyfriend in Tokyo is a plus for Ohana, letting her fend off local boys? And maybe the relationship evaporates or is replaced. At this point, I have confidence that the writers will give us something emotionally strong, anyway. My own experiences make me much more optimistic about long-distance romance than most people appear to be. It can work, I guarantee it. __________________ YUUKI Aoi 悠木碧. b92.03.27 (age 29). 2008 Kurenai (Murasaki). 2009 Yumeiro Pâtissière (Ichigo), Kiruminzuu (Riko), Yutori-chan (Yutori-chan). 2010 Vampire Bund (Mina Tepeş), Shiki (Sunako), Samurai Girls (Juubee), Pokémon: Black and White (Iris). 2011 Madoka Magica (Madoka), Gosick (Victorique), A-Channel (Tooru). 2012 Symphogear (Hibiki). 2014 Pilot's Love Song (Claire/Nina), Nanatsu no Taizai (Diane). 2015 Owari no Seraph (Krul Tepes), Rokka no Yuusha (Fremy). 2016 Boku no Hero Academia (Tsuyu, Froppy). 2017 Kino no Tabi (Kino). 2021 Kumo desu ga (watashi), Kaizoku Oujo (Karin), Heike Monogatari (Biwa), etc., etc. Total of 513 roles in anime and games.

2011-07-03, 21:44	Link #47
Matilda8 Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2008	I liked the op is very similar to the first, I loved the scene of Minko with all that stuff it make me lol, in reference of Ko I felt that now he is more distant from Ohana cause before he was beside her in the same train and now he is outside it, it caught his attention for a moment but he let it pass with indifference while Ohana is inside that train or going after it , I don’t know if this could mean something but for me that makes me think that Ko and Ohana are going in different directions and their interest are opposites. For a moment I doubt about this because Ko with his cel could mean that he was texting Ohana but I don’t think so because in the first op he also was playing with his phone with Ohana beside him so probably he was just playing or doing something else except txt Ohana. The episode itself i liked it was fun , i loved the boy that confesed Minko but i fear his role will be insignificant but I have hopes cause he has similar screen time to Ko (ok i exgereted) it takes to much corage to do what he does in front of everyone and it was amusing how he and his friends were making complot before about consfessing Minko second round and she hearing everthing and after when Minko told him Balunt and he said so that means that u are going out with me? and then chasing after her and falling poor guy, but in the good note for him Minko blushed and call him like he call Ohana that means something at least he isn’t indifferent to her I would like to think. I hope Minko could give him a chance he is persistent and is willing to win her heart although he knows she is in love with someone else. Yuina i think her personality is similar to Ohana´s mom the same with Yosuke and Tohru. Im not to found of her as I was hoping, I like Yosuke he is a hard working person I don’t know why Minko got surpised at how he treated the waitresses since she receive the same trate from Tohru. I don’t like that Yuina drop the bomb at the end it was bad timing I mean is true what she said about the waitresses I don’t mind that but how can she said what she said after in a moment of crisis like that and after his fiancé had been humillated it was the time to show him support and if she was thinking in saying that she could had say it in private or the night before but no, to make things worst she wait to do it in front of everybody she was a little selfish here I think. But we will see how she redeem herself in the next episode. Last edited by Matilda8; 2011-07-03 at 22:02.

2011-07-03, 23:23	Link #54
serenade_beta そのおっぱいで13才 Join Date: Dec 2006	It felt like a filler type of episode (what did you expect?), but it did start to develop Yuina and will continue on the next episode, so it was okay. It was also satisfying seeing that cousin of hers get beat up mentally from all sides. Well, I wouldn't suggest he date a girl like Yuina anyways. You'd have to stalk her to make sure she wasn't cheating. OP was... that singer again...! As always, the song is okay, but that voice is seriously just... no. Kou-chan appeared in it, so it is almost sure that he will come back eventually, now. The ED was just bad. The previous one was so good, yet this... I couldn't even tell they were singing in Japanese at times. __________________ -Blog --> http://tdnshumi.blogspot.com/ (Mainly about video games) -R.I.P. Hiroshi Yamauchi, Gaming wouldn't have been the same without you (9/19/13)

2011-07-04, 01:27	Link #56
0utf0xZer0 Pretentious moe scholar Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Vancouver, Canada Age: 37	Much as I loved the drama of some recent episodes, I have to admit its nice to see the show return to fun mode for a bit. This episode had the sort of charm I watch shows like K-On! for, but with a meatier plot and better rounded characters. And of course, the conflict between Yuina and her fiancee actually highlights Ohana's struggles. Which really makes me think that Tomoe is going to end up marrying Enishi, this series really has a thing for making subplots relevent to the main plot in some way. Also, I'm sure at least a few people have noticed this by now, but it finally occurred to me that there's one big difference between this and True Tears aside from True Tears being straight romance and this being coming of age - Hana-Saku Iroha tells the story from a girl's POV (which explains why it kept reminding me a bit of shows like K-On). __________________ Signature courtesy of Ganbaru.

2011-07-03, 18:54	Link #42
Texas84 よろしく Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Warner Robins, Georgia USA	Call me creepy but Ohana was rockin that bikini. She is still my favorite. Has been from the start. And I guess the inn had plenty of time to plan for this trip and not book too many customers.

2011-07-03, 20:17	Link #45
Leo_Otaku Rewrite of the Life Join Date: May 2003 Location: Canada Age: 37	I like how the beach episode and hot spring was merged!!! Really funny how I get insight on how Japanese school field trips work from reading and seeing them XD. Great episode I liked seeing the insight of Yuina's back story a bit. I somehow think that they are going to need Ohana's help that the part timers are gone. As to Fiance's management, I also disagree with that style. I think he is letting his authority get to his head, rather than thinking about the employee's feelings. Even if they seem like slackers XD

2011-07-03, 22:44	Link #50
deadite Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2010	Someone mention that the OP had the feel of Ohana leaving the inn. She's on the train and she is reliving her memories in the inn? Some circumstance that forces her out of the inn even if she doesn't want too?

2011-07-04, 02:57	Link #58
~Yami~ a random Indonesian otaku Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Xanadu Age: 32	yeah! there is still Ko in opening... means that Ko will enter again in the future episodes (maybe around episode 23 or 24) poor Yosuke... now we have two broken relationship..... too many fast-forward scenes in this episode... quite confused but finally I can see a lot Yuina's scene so I'll give 9/10... xD

2011-07-04, 07:05	Link #60
FMeral16 Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2010	Aside from that one minute where Ohana just HAD to think about Ko and tear up, wasn't this episode much more fun and refreshing? Basically, this show is so much better when there's no mindless relationship drama with Ohana. The confession to Minko was great, and I'm pretty sure there would be far less Ko haters if he tried like that. Actually I'm pretty sure the existence of that unnamed male character while spawn more Ko haters if anything. Finally, Yuina gets a little more time in the spotlight, though I'm a bit lost still on her relationship with Yosuke. When they were talking, after he brought up his idea of having an inn with her as the manager, he didn't really seem sure that he loved the profession when Yuina asked if he did. She rejected his plan at the end but maybe he was only doing it to impress her in the first place. I hope to see more of Nako....