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Besides, if 2011 proved anything, it was that the market can sustain a fair number of hits at any given time. Spring 2011 had several anime titles crack 10K or more, and Fall 2011 also had several big hits. The domestic anime marketplace appears to be growing larger, if anything. Quote:
Fact is, on the whole, I prefer the SHAFT approach.
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2012-05-13, 15:43 | Link #682 | ||
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Pony Canyon and Kyoto spent four years making nothing but Key based anime before they decided they wanted to try something else. Then spent another two and a half years making nothing but K-On stuff. Kadokawa and Kyoto, on the other hand, seldom makes sequels even of high selling works.
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2012-05-13, 16:05 | Link #683 |
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Full Metal Panic and Haruhi are the only two I can think of that were Kyoto and Kadokawa series that had sequels. Full Metal Panic: TSR was not fuctionally a sequel to Full Metal Panic? Fumoffu, but one to the GONZO aimated first series. Haruhi is Haruhi, and with the ways they tell things, it is hard to pin the title "sequel" on anything other than the movie. It actually is almost impossible to define exactly what Haruhi 2009 was.
But my contention in terms outside of DVD/BD sales is that Haruhi already sells. And while a new Haruhi series or film would almost certainly sell 20K+ in disks, the series itself doesn't need more animated to generate sales of other products, since people already buy those things. With a new show (Hyouka in this case), there is greater potental for profits throughout all Kadakawa's many branches. All sales will be new aside from some of the older book series fans. Given that the books are selling in the 20K+ region, that means a lot of profit on a 11 year old novel, plus the BD/DVDs, plus any other merchandizing they can come up with. That is a lot of money to come in, all while people are still buying Haruhi products at only a slightly lesser rate than if there was a show on the air. About the only sales projection that they lose on is potental BD/DVD sales of a new Haruhi anime, and I imagine they get more from the volume of sales of other products related to Hyouka than they lose by not making Haruhi for Disc sales. Because everything else Haruhi still sells.
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2012-05-13, 20:01 | Link #684 |
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Since the recent discussion chain is focusing more on KyoAni/Kadokawa in general than on Anime DVD/BD Sales in Japan specifically, I'm replying to 0utf0xZer0 and Ithekro over here on the KyoAni Studio discussion thread. If anybody wants to continue that discussion, and/or read my reply, you can find it on that thread.
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2012-05-14, 09:08 | Link #685 | |
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2012 Winter - Nise Spring - N/A Summer - N/A Fall - Hidamari Sketch x Honeycomb, Madoka Movie 1 (and how much will be new animation?) Kizu was pushed too 2013 as well... 2 TV series with one having 11 episodes in addition to a Movie that will mostly reuses scenes.. not exactly SHAFT like is it? They had 5 TV series in 2010... and 4 TV series and 2 OVAs in 2009. 3 TV series, 1 OVA and 1 Movie (if you want to call the Negima movie that lol) in 2011. People forget that Movies aren't as "easily" made as TV series.... Kyoto Animation has been able to output a 2 cour series and a movie (Haruhi's being 3 hours long IIRC?) which is no small feat... with SHAFT working on Kizu and eventually Madoka Movie 3.. you'll see their output drop continue... |
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2012-05-15, 11:57 | Link #686 |
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Just reading this now:
http://www27392u.sakura.ne.jp/index_news.cgi
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2012-05-15, 15:47 | Link #687 |
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Looks like Stalker Points haven't changed all that much, but as a reminder, please try to translate the series names when referencing this data, as our Forum Rules do require that all communication be in English.
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2012-05-17, 05:51 | Link #689 | |
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Here's some interesting info regarding why a certain series may have been adapted.
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Also worth noting Space Bros live-action was #2 that week and pulled in around 5 million so far.
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2012-05-23, 03:34 | Link #694 |
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I know that anime doesn't really have a "long tail" but this is ridiculous. The week ending 20th May the 9th best selling Blu-ray sold 196 copies that's nothing! (the 10th best selling Blu-ray was 180 but not an anime). The week ending 13th May the 50th best selling Blu-ray was 241 copies.
First week sales seem to becoming more important every time I look at sales data and that's not a good thing, I can't help wondering if because the first volume of an anime sells badly shops in Japan chose to decline to stock later volumes removing the ability of shows to grow. Oh right links 2012 05/07~05/13 Full / Translated List http://www.mania.com/aodvb/showthrea...109291&page=65 2012 05/14~05/20 Anime 30/10 List http://www.mania.com/aodvb/showthrea...109291&page=70 |
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Keep in mind that, at these prices, this isn't exactly an "impulse buy" item. If people were interested in checking out the show, they'd check it out online or rent it rather than buy any Blu-Rays or DVDs. Shows do continue to sell in small quantities over the long term, but it's a very slow trickle after the initial rush. If the producers are counting on the show to grow beyond that initial rush (for example, if another season is announced), they may re-release the show in a boxset or some other format to catch people who missed it the first time around. The other thing to keep in mind is the used market. If you're going to buy a show after the initial release and already missed out on the bonuses, why not buy a used copy for a fraction of the price? You can often find used items that are in almost-pristine shape. None of these "re-sales" count either. With so many shows produced each season, the market is very cyclical. With so many SKUs released, I'm not sure how feasible it is to expect that regular stores will keep a huge inventory, but this is why you can buy online. And of course, I'm sure they do order less of subsequent volumes if the first didn't sell, but the distributors also produce less in that case too. They don't want to have mountains of surplus inventory.
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