(L) Magi the labyrinth of magic [anime]

[Kakkou]

In this particular episode's case, as far as I'm concerned anyway, the production issues are far too severe to let slide and has nothing to do with deviations from the source. They could have followed the manga to the dot and I'd still have shat on it if the production was on this level.

Which is a shame because from the way the characters moved in various scenes it looked like the staff were actually aiming to give the episode more detailed attention than normal but whatever scheduling problems they had resulted in incomplete cuts, recycled animation and jerky movements, whittling all their attempts at making well animated scenes down to just Morgiana vs Masrur.

[Dengar]

I know people are entitled to their own opinions, but the amount of hate people are spouting here is really tiresome and make me not want to visit this topic anymore. Well, almost.

[EroKing]

[Keroko]

Originally Posted by vansonbee

Haha, people dropping the anime all time, if it doesn't follow the manga 100%. Its normal these days, personally I don't follow the manga and still enjoy the anime. I don't mind the how they cut corners to save money.

and its to bad the manga reader are dropping because I like them posting manga panels of what the anime cut out.

Hold on, hold on, how does not liking one episode equate to dropping the anime?

Seriously, there's a lot of things about this episode that was below quality even without comparing it to the manga. Voice work, storyboarding, animation, these were just objectively bad. This was just an all around bellow average episode.

But how does that mean that people will drop the anime? It's just one bad episode. Doesn't mean the rest will be as bad. Heck, this is the first bad episode out of 18 episodes. With a track record like that, you can bet your ass that I'll just be writing this of as an exception, not the rule.

No, I'm still looking forward to the next Magi. I'm just disappointed at this episode.

[chaos_animagic]

Just watched ep 18...
~spoilered for some ppls that doesn't want to see rants~

Spoiler for ME Rants:

OMG... was their budget like only 100 dollars or something?...

I see at least 300 parts of cut-board and 2 frame per sec scenes....
(and yea, I still wonder why they did not recycle the OP dance like they did for other OP recycles in this episode...)

I did not even do any screenshots that I usually do to make SIGs for a manga site...


Well, I am not dropping it yet, just not going to be paying attention to the anime as deeply as I do for other anime series.
Gonna be playing games while watching this series now, LOL (not gonna be wasting time placing all my focus on something that's crappy)


Funny thing is... they placed the Blu-ray AD in this episode...

It's like they're saying

"This is how we're going to be doing this series now, want good quality? BUY BD suckers!"

I for one... will not be buying any of it.
Not going to waste money for something they purposely did bad on AND cut out great scenes.

all around bellow average episode.

More like "all around below bad episode" LOL

The way this episode is done... is the way they do for those 2 min long episode series... Like an alternative long boring version of Boku no Imouto wa Osaka Okan without the funniness.



And it seems some things did change from the original plot, I wonder if they'll now have an anime original end (seeing as their production is already dying, doubt they can make the series last long)

[vansonbee]

Originally Posted by Keroko

Hold on, hold on, how does not liking one episode equate to dropping the anime?

Seriously, there's a lot of things about this episode that was below quality even without comparing it to the manga. Voice work, storyboarding, animation, these were just objectively bad. This was just an all around bellow average episode.

But how does that mean that people will drop the anime? It's just one bad episode. Doesn't mean the rest will be as bad. Heck, this is the first bad episode out of 18 episodes. With a track record like that, you can bet your ass that I'll just be writing this of as an exception, not the rule.

No, I'm still looking forward to the next Magi. I'm just disappointed at this episode.

Originally Posted by Hiroshi Amearai

Spoiler for save space:

Seriously, this episode is too TERRIBLE! What the hell's with the animation? The dance is terrible. Also, they skipped and changed a lot of things from the manga which is very BAD! They can even change to story in the future. They skipped the funniest part in the manga which is how fat Aladdin and Alibaba have gotten after the time skip. They made Alibaba a big emofag in the anime. Many funny scenes were skipped. Like this

Spoiler:

These scenes existed for a reason... after the "sad" ending of the last arc, they were supposed to cheer the readers up and lighten the mood, but nooo, anime adaptation decides to make Alibaba even denser with a "anime original" scene to explain why they went to Sindria. Completely unecessary.

Also about the snake

Spoiler:

What the hell is that? That's not even in the manga. That snake was supposed to bite Hakuryuu's arm after the Zagan arc. Now it bit Alibaba? And what the hell with" I haven't seen that snake before. But I think it's not poisonous. Trust me" What's with that poorly written crap?

Hell, I'm mad. Had such high expectations for this adaptation. Before I was just like "whatever, as long as it's fun, I can keep up with this" But now I'm dropping it.

Here an example of why.

[articuzwolf]

one manga reader dropping the anime does not equal to every manga reader out there dropping it

and yes, we were frustrated since they've butchered the show here and there but what's new right? happened since the very first episode, but hey at least the quality was far better than this episode.
and like other stated b4, you don't need to be a manga reader to see the quality differences

Originally Posted by vansonbee

I don't mind the how they cut corners to save money.

whoaa this one can't be right

if you are cutting corner, and you still get better or at least the same result/quality, I'd encourage other studio to follow (heck I'd encourage them to patent this "cutting corner" innovative method)

what they did in this episode was equivalent to deep frying bacon

although as someone posted already this "cutting corner" method was used mainly because outsourcing problem with ppl in China

and even if you don't mind, many do.

[kitten320]

What in the world happened with episode 18? 0_o

I'm not manga reader so can't comment on anything story and adaption wise but animation!
I'm never picky when it comes to animation but that was just plain horrible. I had to replay scenes several times to ensure that my PC didn't lag.

That was the biggest amount of static shots I have ever seen! Even Bakemonogatari had more animation than that!

I mean really? WTF happened here?

Also Morg's dance looks 30 times better in OP than here. How on earth could they fuck up such a bright episode?!



Otherwise I wonder why Kogkyou is so mad.

[LKK]

Originally Posted by kitten320

I mean really? WTF happened here?

It has been reported that the contractor company responsible for the inbetween artwork failed to deliver the art in time.

[vansonbee]

Originally Posted by articuzwolf

one manga reader dropping the anime does not equal to every manga reader out there dropping it

and yes, we were frustrated since they've butchered the show here and there but what's new right? happened since the very first episode, but hey at least the quality was far better than this episode.
and like other stated b4, you don't need to be a manga reader to see the quality differences

Agree with you there. I understand the episode quality suck balls!

whoaa this one can't be right

if you are cutting corner, and you still get better or at least the same result/quality, I'd encourage other studio to follow (heck I'd encourage them to patent this "cutting corner" innovative method)

what they did in this episode was equivalent to deep frying bacon

although as someone posted already this "cutting corner" method was used mainly because outsourcing problem with ppl in China

and even if you don't mind, many do.

What the point of this? My opinion is that I don't mind.

[mistress_kisara]

Originally Posted by kitten320

What in the world happened with episode 18? 0_o

I'm not manga reader so can't comment on anything story and adaption wise but animation!
I'm never picky when it comes to animation but that was just plain horrible. I had to replay scenes several times to ensure that my PC didn't lag.

That was the biggest amount of static shots I have ever seen! Even Bakemonogatari had more animation than that!

I mean really? WTF happened here?

Also Morg's dance looks 30 times better in OP than here. How on earth could they fuck up such a bright episode?!



Otherwise I wonder why Kogkyou is so mad.

Me too, its really just the animation that was the problem for me. Like Kakkou said "Inferno Cop" quality.

[kitten320]

Originally Posted by LKK

It has been reported that the contractor company responsible for the inbetween artwork failed to deliver the art in time.

Well I understand how demanding their work is but they really deserve a smack across the head here.

That's the poorest stuff I have ever seen.

And the only other time I have ever complaint about animation was Naruto VS Pain fight where they distorted all the faces.

[Westlo]

The sad thing about Mor's dance is that you can tell it would look really good if the actual inbetweens were done.

[ahelo]

Aww, it's quite a pity there were production troubles in this episode (which I'm sure will be completely fixed in the Blu-Rays not that that's an excuse for now) since I really wanted to see how they would animate Mor's dance. It's sad because it looks like they put a lot of effort in this episode (while almost nothing was moving due to lack of in-betweens, there was quite a bit of detail I mean you wouldn't notice that there was something wrong if you screencap the episode) but I really hope this doesn't happen again.

[konart]

yey! Skywalker Hakuryuu is here!

[Kenu]

Originally Posted by ahelo

Aww, it's quite a pity there were production troubles in this episode (which I'm sure will be completely fixed in the Blu-Rays

How often are anime TV series reanimated for Bluray releases?

[SQA]

Originally Posted by Kenu

How often are anime TV series reanimated for Bluray releases?

All of them get at least touch ups for the BluRay release. In the case of something like Jojo, they redo huge chunks of the character stuff.

In this specific episode's case, I imagine "adding the in-between animations" isn't as much work as we think. They just didn't *have* them to add, on time.

[GoldenLand]

Yep. They ordered the in-between animation, and will have paid for it, it's just that they didn't arrive in time to be aired. There's no way they won't add it into the BluRays (and DVDs, if they're selling those too). The staff are probably really ashamed of having aired an ep with such lousy animation - one of the staff called Morgiana's dance "ruined" the way it had to air.

[roon]

Episode 19 is at least much better animated than the last. No bizarre Fanalis floating techniques for walking motion I was really looking forward to the Kougyoku incident and think the payoff is really good -- Hanazawa Kana's yelling is my favourite kind of yelling.

Very pleased with Hakuryuu's voice. Not much from him since he was just [re?]introduced, but looking forward to the way things play out from here. The snake bite thing still weirds me out if it's heading where I think it's heading, though...

[EroKing]