2012-11-01, 10:30 | Link #21161 |
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I was actually curious about that myself, if Frenda was actually a level 0, or a level 4 who just happened to not use her ability.
Might be interesting if it was the latter and zombie Frenda actually uses her esp ability (assuming the latter theory to be true)
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2012-11-01, 11:06 | Link #21162 | |
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Back to business, since when is Mugino the one to assign the members in ITEM? For all I know, just like with GROUP, it's likely their superior's job to do that. She have standards? And since when efficiency standards are solely based on an unit's level? Skills are what matters. And especially because it's Mugino -the girl who tried to overuse Takitsubo- she'd never let Frenda not use her esper powers if she had any useful one. And a high level ability that's completely useless is no different from a level 0 so it's highly unlikely she'd accept Frenda for that kind of reason. Also, it's probably nice for you guys to notice the many hints that Frenda is really not a high level esper, that or she and the people around her are completely nuts and need to be hardly tsukkomi-ed : 1. if she were anything like level 4, that would have been mentioned or referenced by any random dark side guy since then already. There's also GIAD, but at least in her case, it was stated that she had an ability in the first place 2. She wouldn't go thinking "taking down overconfident espers is the best" all around Miko ... that doesn't make sense in so many ways 3. She's pretty damn crazy to hold back using her ability (and not even thinking or making any allusion about it in her mind) under life and death situations, especially when cornered by a super pissed off dengeki girl. And adding to the fact she's enough of a coward to reveal info about her friends while still being afraid of the consequences, it's even weirder -_-
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2012-11-01, 12:05 | Link #21164 | |
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I think if Mugino is the leader of ITEM then she has a say for her members and even if she is not level 4 or a lower level. I still think she is not completely level 0. If she is level 0. She is like a grunt then. The grunt part of ITEM that do the clean up.
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2012-11-01, 12:11 | Link #21165 |
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Finished re-reading chap 24-30, that's right she does have a lv.4 ability, it's called omnidimensional skirt and I couldn't find anything about that at all. Can you tell in what chapter you read that?
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2012-11-01, 12:22 | Link #21166 |
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do you meant the chapter in railgun? because I think its not also been mentioned there. I'm not sure where I read it but probably here in the forum though still she never did use any ability yet so far.
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2012-11-01, 12:29 | Link #21167 | |
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Nah sorry I was talking to erdii. I just got ninja-ed by you because I wasted my time trying to write a Frenda Mary Sue and finally gave up half way.
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There, there ... level 0 or not compared to monsters like the other 3 that doesn't make a difference if that power is useless enough for you to never manifest it. When high level espers looks down on someone they don't only look down on lv.0 or else level upper would be a lv.0 exclusive product. Meaning, she'd be the grunt anyway >.> ... but she's so incredibly damn skilled so why wasting that potential in cleaning? Even Mugino should be aware of that, it's like having a lv.5 looking down on Touma because he's a Lv.0
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2012-11-01, 16:43 | Link #21170 |
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I don't see why can't Frenda be a level 0.
It's been shown many times that level is not everything. And it's not only for Touma and Hamazura. Tsuchimikaido is level 0 and part of GROUP. Ok, he does have some esper power, regeneration, but it's so slow it's useless in a fight to the death. He also has magic, but he avoids is as much as possible due to the backlash. Tsuchimikado is a badass on his own without depending on special abilities. Sugitani isn't even an esper, or a magician. Yet he pwned Accelerator and almost killed him. Accelerator was lucky Sugitani was was stopped by an unexpected fight between magicians. Kumokawa Seria might not be that great with fighting skills, but with her mind she's probably a force to be reckoned with. Ok, we don't know her esper level, but for all we know she might be level 0 too. And then there are the Tokiwadai dorm masters... enough said. |
2012-11-01, 16:46 | Link #21171 | |
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It didn't happen that way at all, not at all ... or it's my not so up-to-date translated volumes that are wrong again
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2012-11-01, 17:01 | Link #21173 | |
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EDIT: WHAT THE HELL HAD I READ BEFORE, A FANFIC??? Ok, I was clearly wrong, but really... did Misaki modify my memory or something? I swear I read something very different before . (Or maybe I accidentally skipped a part, weird as it may seem...) ... A-Anyway *ahem* Sugitani couldn't beat Accelerator, but he was still a badass. Last edited by leukrota; 2012-11-01 at 17:11. |
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2012-11-01, 18:51 | Link #21175 | |
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v7 -> railgun ss -> v8 Kanzaki ss + Russia ss + SS2 -> Index series
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2012-11-01, 19:57 | Link #21177 | |
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And, overall, just because Mugino is insane doesn't mean she would discriminate anyone because of "esper level". If Takitsubo was determined to be level 1 by the system, Mugino would still use her exactly because she's still worth using. Frenda died because she outlived her expedience at a bad time (when Mugino went insane). |
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2012-11-01, 21:26 | Link #21180 | |
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Indeed, if anything, we've seen more about her after she died... |
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