Character Discussion - Shirley

[darkdarkdark]

Originally Posted by Nogitsune

Uhm.
There is no rule anywhere that states I can't like fictional characters who are immoral. In fact, I can like a fictional character exactly because of his faults if I am so inclined.
Not to mention that thanks to Rolo's upbrining, he didn't even possess the moral capacity to understand that killing is wrong.

Saying that everyone or even the majority of the people who like Rolo only do so because he is "cute" (which he is!) is an assumption that lacks evidence. I could say something similar about pretty much any character.

This is the Shirley thread.

Originally Posted by Rising Dragon

Actually, it'd be rather wrong to call Shirley an "unimportant" character because of the major roles she played in the plot at several occasions. Hell, Nobodyman9 wouldn't have even gotten this character thread created if Shirley was deemed an unimportant character.

IMO, every character in the series was created for a purpose. Whether or not they died in their 2 minutes of screentime, they do contribute to the show. All characters, not just Shirley are important.

[Nobodyman9]

Originally Posted by Rising Dragon

Actually, it'd be rather wrong to call Shirley an "unimportant" character because of the major roles she played in the plot at several occasions. Hell, Nobodyman9 wouldn't have even gotten this character thread created if Shirley was deemed an unimportant character.

Well, to be fair, Arbitres wasn't saying that Shirley was unimportant, but that Sunrise believed she was unimportant. But I wouldn't agree with that either. I mean, she was important enough to get two small story arcs to herself, and...well, she quite obviously had a big impact on Lelouch.

Originally Posted by darkdarkdark

IMO, every character in the series was created for a purpose. Whether or not they died in their 2 minutes of screentime, they do contribute to the show. All characters, not just Shirley are important.

Oh yeah, like Kewell's sister who was on screen for all but two seconds just to be killed off. I suppose simply due to Sunrise's misogyny and/or disdain for humanity. But I digress.

[darkdarkdark]

Originally Posted by Nobodyman9

Oh yeah, like Kewell's sister who was on screen for all but two seconds just to be killed off. I suppose simply due to Sunrise's misogyny and/or disdain for humanity. But I digress.

It happened to quite a few characters. Who knows why they put them in there? I would think it served a purpose if they even put it in. Maybe it was just to show someone died at that certain point in time? I know it's stupid, since there are millions of people who died, but I can't account for Sunrise's logic in these situations.

[Lost Cause]

I like to think that all the characters were important too, to one degree or another. But Shirley had a definet story to tell! And unfortunately Sunrise was only interested in getting as broad an audience as possible, while blowing fans minds by killing off characters just advance the show! To bad Shirley didn't get her own manga as well!

[Nobodyman9]

Originally Posted by Lost Cause

To bad Shirley didn't get her own manga as well!

LOL, where's that coming from? You mean like how Suzaku and Nunnally got their own mangas?

Hmm, well while I certainly wouldn't be opposed to the idea, it doesn't seem likely. I mean, if C.C. and Kallen didn't get their own manga, what chance does Shirley have?

[darkdarkdark]

Originally Posted by Nobodyman9

I mean, if C.C. and Kallen didn't get their own manga, what chance does Shirley have?

We can still dream

[Tr3adst0ne]

Huh, interesting to see the Shirley thread's still rollin'.

[Nobodyman9]

Originally Posted by Tr3adst0ne

Huh, interesting to see the Shirley thread's still rollin'.

Hey Tr3adSt0ne! Good to see ya! But yeah, we're tryin' to keep it rollin'.

...Hmm, and on that note...well, since the idea was proposed, if Shirley did get her own manga what do you think it would be about?

[Tr3adst0ne]

Originally Posted by Nobodyman9

Hey Tr3adSt0ne! Good to see ya! But yeah, we're tryin' to keep it rollin'.

...Hmm, and on that note...well, since the idea was proposed, if Shirley did get her own manga what do you think it would be about?

Yep, been busy lately with transferring out of Africa, and I'll be returning home stateside this week.

My guess would probably be that it would be a short about her dreams and aspirations for her future, as well as her interactions with the people on the show (besides the cast at Ashford Academy).

[Nobodyman9]

Hmm, well I figure it would be something like a high school, slice-of-life, shojo-ish kind of story. It could be a shojo love story between Shirley and Lelouch or it could be just Shirley having fun with her Ashford friends.

Of course, they could also go the serious route and maybe it could be a NoN type story, where Shirley gets a geass and plays a bigger role in the story somehow.

[ginran]

Originally Posted by Nobodyman9

Hmm, well I figure it would be something like a high school, slice-of-life, shojo-ish kind of story. It could be a shojo love story between Shirley and Lelouch or it could be just Shirley having fun with her Ashford friends.

Of course, they could also go the serious route and maybe it could be a NoN type story, where Shirley gets a geass and plays a bigger role in the story somehow.

Both ideas sound pretty interesting, but I think I'd prefer the high school, slice of life, shoujo story route. We've already seen Shirley in a series with tragedy in it, so I'd want to see a lighter, happier story this time around.

I like the idea of a happy AU in general, actually. Like everyone is alive and their biggest concerns are with things in everyday life like romance and school related things. Of course, I loved the original story, but a light hearted side would be a nice contrast to the original.

[azul120]

Yeah. Something along the lines of the pic at the end of the final picture drama.

[ginran]

Originally Posted by azul120

Yeah. Something along the lines of the pic at the end of the final picture drama.

Yea, it'd be something like that!

[Lost Cause]

Count me in on the slice-of-life, high school shoujo, light hearted story!
Dramas are good, but I'd rather see the lighter side for a change!

[azul120]

I'd like a Suzumiya-esque take, for some reason. I'm thinking Milly would be the Haruhi, albeit way less abrasive, Shirley would be the Mikuru, naturally, Lelouch would be the Kyon, Suzaku would be the Koizumi, and Euphie would be the Tsuruya.

[Nobodyman9]

Originally Posted by azul120

Yeah. Something along the lines of the pic at the end of the final picture drama.

Ah, yes. That is absolutely the perfect idea! I love that pic

Originally Posted by azul120

I'd like a Suzumiya-esque take, for some reason. I'm thinking Milly would be the Haruhi, albeit way less abrasive, Shirley would be the Mikuru, naturally, Lelouch would be the Kyon, Suzaku would be the Koizumi, and Euphie would be the Tsuruya.

Hmm, I still haven't seen Haruhi Suzumiya, but I do know what kind of show it is, so yeah, that could work too. Probably could do without the whole "god" thing though

[Lost Cause]

Or maybe more like Lucky Star? Then again maybe not!

[azul120]

Lucky Star's practically all-girl though. Besides, Suzumiya has more character analogues going for it.

[Nobodyman9]

Originally Posted by Lost Cause

Or maybe more like Lucky Star? Then again maybe not!

From what I've heard, Lucky Star is terrible But even if it's not, it's still a bit too cartoon-ish. Then again, I wouldn't mind seeing all the CG characters in chibi form. I believe that's an idea that was explored in the New CG Project thread.

So sure! Chibi Shirley and Lelouch It would have to be an OVA or 4koma though.

[azul120]

The Melancholy of Lelouch-chan it is, then!