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Haak · 2012-01-10, 07:22

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Originally Posted by ThereminVox

The "health" related oddities are going to be worth keeping an eye on. Someone who actually knows medicine can correct me, but aren't collapsed lungs usually associated with physical trauma, or injury? I wonder if it's relevant that his father specifically mentions that he had it happen twice.

I'm guessing the collapsed lung in this case is Primary Spontaneous Pneumothorax which has no known cause but family history and the male gender are risk factors. There's also Secondary Spontaneous (caused by an underlying lung disease) and Traumatic (the one you're thinking of). MeoTwister can give a better answer...

But yes i also think that piece of information is relevant. Imo I think the collapsed lung in this case isn't hereditary in the genetic sense...

KyriaL · 2012-01-10, 07:23

The way the entire 'feeling' of the town reflects the genre well. The darker tones of the animation and the background music used are well suited to the show's mysterious and dark atmosphere.

And I have to say that by the end of the episode, I started 'reminiscing' about past horror movies and shows and guessing how this new one will play out.

Jerseykid · 2012-01-10, 07:32

Maybe it's just the order I am watching things in but thank goodness we have something serious this season.

MeoTwister5 · 2012-01-10, 07:38

Haven't had time to watch the show dammit due to duty and crazy ass patients, but anyway...

Without a history of trauma or an underlying lung disease yes it's primary spontaneous pneumothorax. I've seen two cases of it since I started clerkship and both had no history other than it suddenly happening. One of the main primary theories is that genetic mutations causes weakness in the tissues of the lung visceral pleura, making the surface tissue of the lung more susceptible to rupture during the stretching effects of respiration, but of course I don't think they've found that gene yet.

Anyway I'll catch up with the show later tonight and I'll maybe try to explain what medical conditions they have.

casval cehack · 2012-01-10, 08:33

This reminds me of "Fragile" and the Thai film "Seeing Ghost" in its haunting style. Very good episode as expected of P.A. Works.

Kakkou · 2012-01-10, 09:16

Count me in the camp that actually likes the OP lol. I don't like the sequence though. Even if the song wasn't too fitting, the sequence could have made it better. So far only the Rozen Maiden staff and Beetrain have been able to make good use of an AliPro song imo.

Well that aside, the first episode was good, if not lacking in the animation department. The visual quality and music was top notch and the atmosphere good, but the doll transition cuts feel like they're trying a bit too hard to make things eerie.

The mystery itself has been established well enough, with a lot of hints that nothing is right and a very big secret is being kept from Kouichi. As unsubtle as it was presented, it felt necessary. Here's to hoping the rest of the buildup and revelations will be worthwhile and accompanied by some good horror scenes that are well, actually horrifying.

-Sho- · 2012-01-10, 09:18

I like the dark atmosphere. The art is great and detailed. Story seems interesting. And i like the fact that the classmates looks differents & detailed.

Silvance · 2012-01-10, 09:24

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Originally Posted by Ami-chan

Okay, I call it. By the end of this series, there's gonna be people stalking him or something

I won't be surprised if that does happen considering the really strange behavior of those students.

Also, anyone else noticed that the adult female characters looked so young? The character design for this series is just gorgeous. To be more precise, I'm referring to the aunt and the assistant homeroom teacher. >.<

wandering-dreamer · 2012-01-10, 10:50

Hmm, I'm not as taken with the show as everyone else seems to be but I'll give it another few episodes to see if I warm up to it. I do have a theory though, what if Mei Misaki isn't actually a ghost but instead each class three in the ninth grade chooses one person to sit in the dead girl's seat/be ignored at them like she really is a ghost to keep the girl's memory alive? The aunt did hint that the facade didn't end after graduation and this would be keeping with the tone of the series thus far.

MeoTwister5 · 2012-01-10, 11:05

Wow not a single ray of sunshine in this pilot, and it even looks like smiles are a rare and limited commodity. Everyone's faces looks so glum and sullen, the men look downright anemic, the women look like they've been having a period for more than 2 months, the voices are so hushed you'd think someone would get the firing squad for speaking out loud, and those dolls creep me the fuck out.

Just the way I like it. I think it's probable now that the thin red line between sickness and death is one of, if not, the central focus of the story

king12354 · 2012-01-10, 13:40

What's Chihiro doing in this show? Well I guess she would fit right in because she has a condition as well.

ookamigirl · 2012-01-10, 14:03

Kouichi met Mei.
The whole thing just had such a weird vibe.
At least his new classmates were friendly.. up to a point.
I will be watching this one.
Looks very interesting!

xizro345 · 2012-01-10, 15:19

Seems interesting from what I see. However in these kind of works the screenplay can kill or let the show live, so I'll see how it develops. Only negative for me, ALI project doing the OP.

Saturn Beaver · 2012-01-10, 16:30

Echoing what everyone has said, they did a great job making the atmosphere creepy - a bit too good perhaps, after a while I think they might be laying it a bit too thick. It's not bad or anything though, and I like the more subtle touches they have as well. Lots of things are already mentioned that I won't bother repeating them, but I want to highlight the Sakakibara family situation.

Obviously it's going to be important, what's with Mei's warning at the end and all, but I like how much of his family is still shrouded in mystery as well. One thing I probably missed though, did they mention how long ago has it been since Kouichi's mother passed away, and how did she die? Because it seems like it's been quite a while, yet the Grandpa is still obsessing over it - to the point where even the parrot starts repeating after him. Also, another trivia that may or may not be important - the aunt says that she went to the same school 14 years ago, so it's very possible that she was around Kouichi's age now when her sister is pregnant with Kouichi.

DXMichael · 2012-01-10, 16:30

I'm hoping this creepiness continuous. Being chased around in a highschool at night by...something, sounds interesting by my standards. A few deaths here and there are what i'm expecting when Kouchi continues to hassle and disturb what the other student are trying so hard to ignore.

Julio C · 2012-01-10, 17:18

Damm, this premiere exceeded my expectations, and it's probably the best one this season. The production quality is outstanding. There was so much detail in each classmate as if they were part of the main cast.

Call me crazy, but I think everybody is already dead or about to died at some point. The whole class is just weird and the fact that its being treated differently from the other classes raises some questions.

I'm going to make this my night show, just before my bedtime.

AbZeroNow · 2012-01-10, 19:40

Just watched this. I liked the beginning where they set up the "urban legend" and showed a lot of interesting images that just flashed by. Then the OP hit.

The OP was easily the worst thing in this episode, and my only complaint about it. It was purely Narm, and didn't fit the mood at all.

Liked the hospital details. It added a touch of realism, and Noizi Itou always does great work with the designs. The BGM actually fit the mood, as I felt creeped out at least a few times during that episode, especially Mei's walk down the basement corridor.

It feels like people want to fill in Kouichi on some of the details of whatever happened in the village, but they don't. Certainly, the meganekko girl's reaction to Kouichi seeing Mei is telling that something very bad happened.

The teacher's line about "in prime health" felt like foreshadowing. Then finally, Mei's talk with Kouichi on the roof felt like she was angry that nobody has told him yet about whatever the secret is. Was she warning him away because the class might harm him or was she trying to keep him out of it because he's innocent?

Spoiler for death flags:

Finally, seeing that Mei has the same uniform as everyone else makes me wonder. If she's a ghost, does that mean that middle school has uniforms that are stuck in the 70s. Yikes.

I give this episode a 8.5 out of 10. The OP was just bad and that subtracted points for me.

Kaioshin Sama · 2012-01-10, 19:43

Compently told story and clearly established tone and themes spotted in first episode

djmaca · 2012-01-10, 19:57

Standard Japanese horror: Introduce you, tell a yarn then creep you out...

I like it XD

Scarletknive · 2012-01-10, 20:44

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Originally Posted by leokiko

It's an psp game right? Is it really that scary?

Go try out the game, if you have a PSP.

2012-01-10, 07:38	Link #224
MeoTwister5 Komrades of Kitamura Kou Join Date: Jul 2004 Age: 39	Haven't had time to watch the show dammit due to duty and crazy ass patients, but anyway... Without a history of trauma or an underlying lung disease yes it's primary spontaneous pneumothorax. I've seen two cases of it since I started clerkship and both had no history other than it suddenly happening. One of the main primary theories is that genetic mutations causes weakness in the tissues of the lung visceral pleura, making the surface tissue of the lung more susceptible to rupture during the stretching effects of respiration, but of course I don't think they've found that gene yet. Anyway I'll catch up with the show later tonight and I'll maybe try to explain what medical conditions they have. __________________ Medical Student vs. Anime Last Exile - Fam the Silver Wing -

2012-01-10, 08:33	Link #225
casval cehack Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011	This reminds me of "Fragile" and the Thai film "Seeing Ghost" in its haunting style. Very good episode as expected of P.A. Works. __________________

2012-01-10, 10:50	Link #229
wandering-dreamer reads too much Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: you know that's a great question.....	Hmm, I'm not as taken with the show as everyone else seems to be but I'll give it another few episodes to see if I warm up to it. I do have a theory though, what if Mei Misaki isn't actually a ghost but instead each class three in the ninth grade chooses one person to sit in the dead girl's seat/be ignored at them like she really is a ghost to keep the girl's memory alive? The aunt did hint that the facade didn't end after graduation and this would be keeping with the tone of the series thus far. __________________ If it has a plot I have something to say about it! Twitter time!

2012-01-10, 11:05	Link #230
MeoTwister5 Komrades of Kitamura Kou Join Date: Jul 2004 Age: 39	Wow not a single ray of sunshine in this pilot, and it even looks like smiles are a rare and limited commodity. Everyone's faces looks so glum and sullen, the men look downright anemic, the women look like they've been having a period for more than 2 months, the voices are so hushed you'd think someone would get the firing squad for speaking out loud, and those dolls creep me the fuck out. Just the way I like it. I think it's probable now that the thin red line between sickness and death is one of, if not, the central focus of the story __________________ Medical Student vs. Anime Last Exile - Fam the Silver Wing -

2012-01-10, 14:03	Link #232
ookamigirl Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011	Kouichi met Mei. The whole thing just had such a weird vibe. At least his new classmates were friendly.. up to a point. I will be watching this one. Looks very interesting! __________________ My Blog --> ookami

2012-01-10, 07:23	Link #222
KyriaL You are Reading this! Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: In the study room	The way the entire 'feeling' of the town reflects the genre well. The darker tones of the animation and the background music used are well suited to the show's mysterious and dark atmosphere. And I have to say that by the end of the episode, I started 'reminiscing' about past horror movies and shows and guessing how this new one will play out.

2012-01-10, 07:32	Link #223
Jerseykid Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006	Maybe it's just the order I am watching things in but thank goodness we have something serious this season.

2012-01-10, 09:16	Link #226
Kakkou Tch. Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Australia	Count me in the camp that actually likes the OP lol. I don't like the sequence though. Even if the song wasn't too fitting, the sequence could have made it better. So far only the Rozen Maiden staff and Beetrain have been able to make good use of an AliPro song imo. Well that aside, the first episode was good, if not lacking in the animation department. The visual quality and music was top notch and the atmosphere good, but the doll transition cuts feel like they're trying a bit too hard to make things eerie. The mystery itself has been established well enough, with a lot of hints that nothing is right and a very big secret is being kept from Kouichi. As unsubtle as it was presented, it felt necessary. Here's to hoping the rest of the buildup and revelations will be worthwhile and accompanied by some good horror scenes that are well, actually horrifying.

2012-01-10, 09:18	Link #227
-Sho- ~Omedetô~ Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Somewhere between heaven and hell !	I like the dark atmosphere. The art is great and detailed. Story seems interesting. And i like the fact that the classmates looks differents & detailed.

2012-01-10, 13:40	Link #231
king12354 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007	What's Chihiro doing in this show? Well I guess she would fit right in because she has a condition as well.

2012-01-10, 15:19	Link #233
xizro345 King's Justice Join Date: Apr 2004	Seems interesting from what I see. However in these kind of works the screenplay can kill or let the show live, so I'll see how it develops. Only negative for me, ALI project doing the OP.

2012-01-10, 16:30	Link #234
Saturn Beaver Home of Silent Prayer Join Date: Mar 2010	Echoing what everyone has said, they did a great job making the atmosphere creepy - a bit too good perhaps, after a while I think they might be laying it a bit too thick. It's not bad or anything though, and I like the more subtle touches they have as well. Lots of things are already mentioned that I won't bother repeating them, but I want to highlight the Sakakibara family situation. Obviously it's going to be important, what's with Mei's warning at the end and all, but I like how much of his family is still shrouded in mystery as well. One thing I probably missed though, did they mention how long ago has it been since Kouichi's mother passed away, and how did she die? Because it seems like it's been quite a while, yet the Grandpa is still obsessing over it - to the point where even the parrot starts repeating after him. Also, another trivia that may or may not be important - the aunt says that she went to the same school 14 years ago, so it's very possible that she was around Kouichi's age now when her sister is pregnant with Kouichi. __________________

2012-01-10, 16:30	Link #235
DXMichael Psycho Falling Deep Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: The Anime World Age: 29	I'm hoping this creepiness continuous. Being chased around in a highschool at night by...something, sounds interesting by my standards. A few deaths here and there are what i'm expecting when Kouchi continues to hassle and disturb what the other student are trying so hard to ignore. __________________

2012-01-10, 17:18	Link #236
Julio C Bury My Shell Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Santa Barbara	Damm, this premiere exceeded my expectations, and it's probably the best one this season. The production quality is outstanding. There was so much detail in each classmate as if they were part of the main cast. Call me crazy, but I think everybody is already dead or about to died at some point. The whole class is just weird and the fact that its being treated differently from the other classes raises some questions. I'm going to make this my night show, just before my bedtime.

2012-01-10, 19:40	Link #237
AbZeroNow North American Haruhiist Join Date: Oct 2010 Age: 43	Just watched this. I liked the beginning where they set up the "urban legend" and showed a lot of interesting images that just flashed by. Then the OP hit. The OP was easily the worst thing in this episode, and my only complaint about it. It was purely Narm, and didn't fit the mood at all. Liked the hospital details. It added a touch of realism, and Noizi Itou always does great work with the designs. The BGM actually fit the mood, as I felt creeped out at least a few times during that episode, especially Mei's walk down the basement corridor. It feels like people want to fill in Kouichi on some of the details of whatever happened in the village, but they don't. Certainly, the meganekko girl's reaction to Kouichi seeing Mei is telling that something very bad happened. The teacher's line about "in prime health" felt like foreshadowing. Then finally, Mei's talk with Kouichi on the roof felt like she was angry that nobody has told him yet about whatever the secret is. Was she warning him away because the class might harm him or was she trying to keep him out of it because he's innocent? Spoiler for death flags: Bad heart guy's conversation with Kouichi made me see death flags for him. Wishing that he could know what it feels like to run is a very very bad thing to say in a horror show. Finally, seeing that Mei has the same uniform as everyone else makes me wonder. If she's a ghost, does that mean that middle school has uniforms that are stuck in the 70s. Yikes. I give this episode a 8.5 out of 10. The OP was just bad and that subtracted points for me.

2012-01-10, 19:43	Link #238
Kaioshin Sama Banned Join Date: May 2004 Location: Neither Here nor There Age: 39	Compently told story and clearly established tone and themes spotted in first episode

2012-01-10, 19:57	Link #239
djmaca My Girl ↓ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Update: Ortigas, Pasig, Phillippines Age: 36	Standard Japanese horror: Introduce you, tell a yarn then creep you out... I like it XD __________________ I find the lack of old Darth Vader memes.... disturbing.