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Originally Posted by Rev Okkin
First off, I do agree that the pacing was off in this episode like there were bits missing and the beginning parts felt like it belonged to the episode previous but because of the intended viewing by marathoning, that shouldn't be a minus. However, in terms of missing stuff, that is to be put off till the actual BD release which should have everything uncut, animation polished and OST made louder.
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Sorry, but this is the broadcast edition and I'll point out its pros and cons accordingly for what it is. If the BD release fixes those flaws, then I'll have a separate and possibly more positive view about that.
Aside from animation touch-ups and the common perks of a home release, if what I heard of the BD of the first cour is true, I'm not going to expect anything major added to the BD release of the second cour in terms of story. If it does, then great, I'm all for it. But again, this is the broadcast edition and I'll comment accordingly to what they chose to show to the public first as a professional work.
Also, I'm already not that fond of the OST of Ufotable's UBW to begin with. It's not bad, but it's just underwhelming and not very memorable to me. I prefer Kawai Kenji's compositions based on the VN for the DEEN anime/movie and Kajiura Yuki's compositions for the Zero anime.
Note that for everything non-music related, I've been liking the Ufo anime better than the VN's UBW
until now.
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The Rin and Saber contract was good and done well with the OST following suit to the buildup. The new level of power Saber got can be physically seen and felt as mana was around her like an aura.
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The difference between Ufotable's fresh Rin!Saber and Saber's other appearances with Ufotable's famous blue auras is miniscule to the power surge she had in the visual novel.
VS.
I love Ufotable's animation. With Ufotable's talents, they could have easily showed the true extent of how much of a nightmare Saber is at her full potential with Rin as her source of mana, but they didn't. With what they've done to impress me so far, this was very underwhelming. (
Although I like Saber's ponytail.)
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Plus Rin. Rin already had the kind of face of stern worry in the whole section before UBW casting. And it's one thing to know about inner worlds and it's another to know Archer can cast them. What basis does Rin have that Archer can cast them? All what we saw before hand is that Archer has knowledge of them, the suggestion that HS are skilled in both martial and magical arts, all of his multiple projections, visions of an inner world (which doesn't mean it can be recreated just because of such) and Shirou's abilities which show nothing of being able to go that far in magecraft. Again, it's one thing to see a fictional world in TV but another to be brought into that fictional world.
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Was talking about his identity as a magus before he died, but okay.
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Unlimited Blade Works... I have no problem with it as it looks fittingly fake as its caster and contents imply. It looks as desolate as it can be with the far off horizon to show there is no end to the world itself. The lack of soundtrack other than the foreboding bell highlights the howling wind which implies emptiness and of course, that fits the characterization of Archer and the reality marble itself.
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Agree to disagree. I thought that Unlimited CGI Works looked ugly in comparison to what we've seen glimpses of before in this anime and the Vita opening of UBW. Although I still thought it looked cool because... well, it's Unlimited Blade Works. But honestly it made me retract my Unlimited Budget Works jokes for good (which were ultimately just jokes, Ufotable definitely have talented people, but they don't redefine animation imo, they're just really consistent - so I don't give them too much shit about it).
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Nothing is really lost with the change of lifting swords to projecting them. Heck, it lends to prove that Archer can make as much copies as he needs of the same quality and of the same power. It also makes Shirou's improvement on his abilities more believable because he's projecting the same thing over and over again, pushing himself farther than before. With only one template to work with all he had to improve is the speed of his projections, the quality and the strength.
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My point was that Archer/Shirou doesn't need to project weapons in Unlimited Blade Works. When deployed,
his constructs are already there to use. In the real world, his Reality Marble grants him the ability to project/strengthen weapons or create a rain of swords in the air. But in his inner world, he is able to use any of the weapons he calls on immediately into his hand and levitate the swords that are already there to make a rain of swords.
The caster using projection in UBW is incorrect, period.
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The thing about HS and Servants, is there anything lost when not mentioned? Is there an incident where it comes to play like a summoning later down the line and the HS acts like an earlier series didn't happen? Say like Diarmud being summoned later on the timeline but isn't crying blood or anything like that?
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It's, uh, a pretty important thing to think about considering what happens to the central character in UBW. Because whether or not Archer remembers this particular summoning is a pretty big piece of information for people who aren't just passively interested in the series and want something to linger on about.
And also within the Nasuverse, Heroic Spirits not remembering what happened to themselves in another series is a pretty huge detail. Hell, within FSN, Saber
remembering what happens to her in previous summonings signifies she isn't even a normal Heroic Spirit.
It also pertains to Archer's work as a Counter Guardian as well. The rules apply there too.
World-building is a cool thing, yo.
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I don't understand your beef with the Lancer and Saber thing. It looked like Saber making sure that Lancer is their ally and questioning how Shirou and Rin got him. Lancer looked occupied with thoughts of Archer being a dick and what Kirei is planning.
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My beef is that originally Saber's reaction made me laugh and Lancer getting agitated as hell about Archer kidnapping Rin was what made me start to really like Lancer in the first place.
I put myself in the shoes of a first-time viewer for a second, and to me Lancer looked ambiguous enough and Saber was just stern as always. I thought it was a shame that the scene wasn't as fun as it was in the VN, or when Lancer teases Rin in the anime (which I liked better than the VN).
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I have no love for the VN OST. A whole lot of it are poorly composed, doesn't use the instruments in their potential (heck even wrongly in some ones) and jarring to listen to at times. I would take ufotable's UBW OST which is special tailored for the series itself and it shows well the on point coordination between the two over the VN OST which quite frankly repeats itself to no end unnecessarily with no feeling of progress (I actually muted Church on the Hill because of my said reasons).
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Like what you like, but for the record, video game music tends to loop until you reach a scene where it's supposed to change...
Original or Vita (for me, original wins some, Vita wins some), the VN music was tailored for the series too. Obviously music made for a visual novel and music made for an anime would differ because the mediums are very different. But I liked what Kawai Kenji did to make those familiar pieces fit into the animation medium. Music is the only thing I prefer DEEN Fsn over Ufotable Fsn.
I don't think Ufotable's music is bad, but it's not really memorable to me. Coming from a person who enjoyed the Tales of Symphonia OVA OST more than most of the game's music, it's not based on purism. lol In UBW, I didn't really care when they never used the more minor tracks (on that note, I thought that one time they decided to do an arrangement of Sorrow of all things was strange), but with Die Lorelei out of the way and this episode lacking the dramatic flare Whirlpool of Fate added to Unlimited Blade Work's desolate surroundings, I wouldn't be too thrilled if they didn't use EMIYA accordingly, or at least something that matches up to it. I would prefer it being the former, because it's Shirou/Archer's friggin' theme.
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Originally Posted by Levani
I couldn't listen to this either. Until the Vita version came along, I really like the Vita OST xD
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Mighty Wind Vita version~
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