Good Ending (GE)

[ZeKeR]

Originally Posted by Arturro

Just curious. How many men, with personality like Utsumi, you know in real life, whose has ended with a good woman?

about THREE.... and too few.... damn.... seriously... these days... a good woman is rare.... imo, only few couples stick together until marriage...

[chinamen]

@yuiichi9
His avatar is from 'Ladies vs Butlers' anime. final ep aired last week

[Cinocard]

Originally Posted by Arturro

Just curious. How many men, with personality like Utsumi, you know in real life, whose has ended with a good woman?

A lot, and guys like him are exactly the ones that don't divorce. Anyway, where's the story going from now? I don't see how things would develop from both Yuki and Shou sides for Utsumi.

[babohtea]

Eh. I don't like Utsumi's personality, but I hope to see that this manga will be about how he changes. I hope this isn't the mangaka telling us these are the traits of the ideal man.

He doesn't need to fight anybody but he just needs more self confidence and he needs to be more... angry? I don't know.

[Arturro]

Originally Posted by Cinocard

A lot, and guys like him are exactly the ones that don't divorce. Anyway, where's the story going from now? I don't see how things would develop from both Yuki and Shou sides for Utsumi.

Those guys are lucky. Each nice and submissive guy I know get the short end of the stick. Two of those are married. And you're right, they probably won't divorce. Wife of one of them is cheating on him, he knows, but they're still living together...

[DJ Trouble]

Originally Posted by babohtea

Eh. I don't like Utsumi's personality, but I hope to see that this manga will be about how he changes. I hope this isn't the mangaka telling us these are the traits of the ideal man.

He doesn't need to fight anybody but he just needs more self confidence and he needs to be more... angry? I don't know.

He looks angry enough to me. He just needs to take action more, grow some balls, or confidence, as you put it. If he does that, he'll be fine.

[Darknemo2000]

He looks desperate, not angry. You can see it in

Spoiler for in:

ch 30.

[Cinocard]

Originally Posted by Darknemo2000

He looks desperate, not angry. You can see it in

Spoiler for in:

ch 30.

That much is clear. With Utsumi's personality, what he wants the most certainly is to lessen Shou's pain, not inflict it on Keito, hence the desperation.

Though it's nice to see Shou rebounding so fast after the event. I didn't have much hope for that.

[Waven]

Originally Posted by Cinocard

That much is clear. With Utsumi's personality, what he wants the most certainly is to lessen Shou's pain, not inflict it on Keito, hence the desperation.

Though it's nice to see Shou rebounding so fast after the event. I didn't have much hope for that.

Neither did I but on rare occasions even this series can be little optimistic, which is not to say we're not heading for the next hammer to fall

[Sinta]

Spoiler for 31:

The new Chapter is out. Our boy and yuki get in a fight of which I have no idea why. It appears pretty serious though as she throws something at him. Then his chick at work falls on him and we can a little Ecchiness scene. They talk and she grabs his had. I think we just got a confession from her.

[KLGChaos]

Originally Posted by Sinta

Spoiler for 31:

The new Chapter is out. Our boy and yuki get in a fight of which I have no idea why. It appears pretty serious though as she throws something at him. Then his chick at work falls on him and we can a little Ecchiness scene. They talk and she grabs his had. I think we just got a confession from her.

Spoiler:

Yuki basically tells Utsumi that everything is reset (a continuation of the end of chapter 30). He asks what she means and she basically says that he was just using her as a rebound and that he was actually still in love with Shou. This gets him angry and he yells at her about it and how she doesn't know what he feels. It makes him so angry in fact, he calls her out on still being in love with Tooru and that there's no room in her heart for anyone else. Then he proceeds to say that if she loves him so much, they should never have separated. She throws a water bottle at his head and says pretty much the same thing to him about not knowing what she feels.

I was cheering Utsumi on until that last line, which I think went too far. Still, him calling Yuki out on still being hung up over Tooru is a great thing, imo. She needs someone to slap her upside the head with that or else she'll never be able to move on. You can see just how much she is hung up on him still as the mention of him is the only thing that gets her angry, which is why I applaud Utsumi for saying most of what he did.

Then, later on, Utusmi tries to save Risa from falling and she ends up falling on top of him. He tells her about his problems with Yuki and she apologizes for not being able to help him. She asks him to go to an amusement park with her and when he's about to reject because of his feelings for Yuki, she grabs his hand and asks if it's not ok if it's with her (ie going out with her).

This will prove to be an interesting experience for nice-guy Utsumi. After all, he's never been confessed to before, so he's probably unsure on how to proceed from here.

Oh, and by the way, the playboy jerkwad named Kento is shown thinking about Shou, even ignoring Yagi's questioning of why his face is bruised. If he tries to go after Shou again, I hope he gets castrated. If he manages to win her back, Shou will forever be on my s***list for pure stupidity.

[KrimzonStriker]

Originally Posted by KLGChaos

Spoiler:

Yuki basically tells Utsumi that everything is reset (a continuation of the end of chapter 30). He asks what she means and she basically says that he was just using her as a rebound and that he was actually still in love with Shou. This gets him angry and he yells at her about it and how she doesn't know what he feels. It makes him so angry in fact, he calls her out on still being in love with Tooru and that there's no room in her heart for anyone else. Then he proceeds to say that if she loves him so much, they should never have separated. She throws a water bottle at his head and says pretty much the same thing to him about not knowing what she feels.

I was cheering Utsumi on until that last line, which I think went too far. Still, him calling Yuki out on still being hung up over Tooru is a great thing, imo. She needs someone to slap her upside the head with that or else she'll never be able to move on. You can see just how much she is hung up on him still as the mention of him is the only thing that gets her angry, which is why I applaud Utsumi for saying most of what he did.

Then, later on, Utusmi tries to save Risa from falling and she ends up falling on top of him. He tells her about his problems with Yuki and she apologizes for not being able to help him. She asks him to go to an amusement park with her and when he's about to reject because of his feelings for Yuki, she grabs his hand and asks if it's not ok if it's with her (ie going out with her).

This will prove to be an interesting experience for nice-guy Utsumi. After all, he's never been confessed to before, so he's probably unsure on how to proceed from here.

Oh, and by the way, the playboy jerkwad named Kento is shown thinking about Shou, even ignoring Yagi's questioning of why his face is bruised. If he tries to go after Shou again, I hope he gets castrated. If he manages to win her back, Shou will forever be on my s***list for pure stupidity.

Spoiler for hmm:

Well, to be fair, he really doesn't exactly know the details of why they broke up like some of us might have suspected, so I can see why from his point of view on what little he knows that he thought could make that kind of statement.

Hmm, Kento's still at it I see... I doubt she'll go back to him, if anything this might be what pushes her back to Utsumi as a form of rebuking him. That all said and done I do wonder if Kento will make a turn for the better after this experience at the very least, few jerks actually ever take to time to think about what they done, so that in and of itself makes me curious to see what comes out of it

[KLGChaos]

Originally Posted by KrimzonStriker

Spoiler for hmm:

Well, to be fair, he really doesn't exactly know the details of why they broke up like some of us might have suspected, so I can see why from his point of view on what little he knows that he thought could make that kind of statement.

Hmm, Kento's still at it I see... I doubt she'll go back to him, if anything this might be what pushes her back to Utsumi as a form of rebuking him. That all said and done I do wonder if Kento will make a turn for the better after this experience at the very least, few jerks actually ever take to time to think about what they done, so that in and of itself makes me curious to see what comes out of it

Spoiler:

That's true about Utsumi not knowing. On another site, we were discussing the line Yukinused about how Utsumi doesn't understand her feelings. Of course he doesn't because she won't let him in. She keeps everything inside and despite him wanting to get close to her and help her, she pushes him away. I'm not saying to spill the whole sordid incident that broke them up, but she won't even let him know why she gets so upset about Tooru, so his reaction is understandable. I would have loved to see him call her on that, as well, and tell her to "make him understand" instead of just running away from him.

[Darknemo2000]

Originally Posted by KrimzonStriker

Spoiler for hmm:

Well, to be fair, he really doesn't exactly know the details of why they broke up like some of us might have suspected, so I can see why from his point of view on what little he knows that he thought could make that kind of statement.

Hmm, Kento's still at it I see... I doubt she'll go back to him, if anything this might be what pushes her back to Utsumi as a form of rebuking him. That all said and done I do wonder if Kento will make a turn for the better after this experience at the very least, few jerks actually ever take to time to think about what they done, so that in and of itself makes me curious to see what comes out of it

Spoiler for hmm:

The problem is that he thinks he knows enough about that. Remember that he did not see the flashes of her past like we did so its natural for him to think not about some terrible accident but rather about them breaking up and that her main problem is her having feelings for him still. I would assume the same thing from the knowledge I would have.

[Cinocard]

Spoiler for 31:

What caught my attention here is Yuki saying Utsumi doesn't know how she feels either.

So what does it means? What does she really feel? Does it mean Utsumi doesn't know how much Yuki was hurted, or how much she still loves/hates Tooru but just don't want to be reminded of him, or that she also likes Utsumi, but restraining from it because she's afraid, or that, etc.

[KLGChaos]

Originally Posted by Cinocard

Spoiler for 31:

What caught my attention here is Yuki saying Utsumi doesn't know how she feels either.

So what does it means? What does she really feel? Does it mean Utsumi doesn't know how much Yuki was hurted, or how much she still loves/hates Tooru but just don't want to be reminded of him, or that she also likes Utsumi, but restraining from it because she's afraid, or that, etc.

Spoiler:

That's the problem. No one really knows what she feels because she won't tell him. It's why many feel Utsumi was justified on calling her out on her past and her still being in love with Tooru, because obviously something is going on and all signs do point in that direction (at least from Utsumi's point of view). Yet, all he ever gets are vague answers. Their relationship would never bloom if she stays like that and it's the biggest indicator that while she says she's moving on, she really isn't.

[Rainrir]

More like already made much progress, but cannot take the final, important step.

Then again, if she can, the manga would have ended 5 chapters ago. LOL.

Just for the benefit of those that are not in the GE fanclub, the original oneshots are uploaded there. Go check it out.

[KrimzonStriker]

Original one-shots? Hmm, I'll be sure to check them out then

[kanon78]

Originally Posted by Cinocard

Spoiler for 31:

What caught my attention here is Yuki saying Utsumi doesn't know how she feels either.

So what does it means? What does she really feel? Does it mean Utsumi doesn't know how much Yuki was hurted, or how much she still loves/hates Tooru but just don't want to be reminded of him, or that she also likes Utsumi, but restraining from it because she's afraid, or that, etc.

I think you pretty much answered your question yourself. I won't be surprised if we'll be shown (in GE) all the points you made concerning Yuki.

[DragoZERO]

Chapter 30 scanlation is out...

Good chapter. I'm glad she gave him a good slap across the face - he sure deserved it.

Oh, and I hate the editor comment at the end. They are always so stupid and often leads you on the wrong direction.

Originally Posted by Waven

plenty... he has just the right traits (caring, loving etc) that women really look for... and i mean women , not girls -.-

That is 100% true.