Ore no Imouto - Light Novel & Manga Discussion Thread

[Kakurin]

Originally Posted by Lucarion

Guys, I just want to ask one thing....

Did that 10 year afterstory come out yet?

Yes, quite some time ago, with that first anime volume. Or do you mean a translated version?

[Lucarion]

Originally Posted by SigUp

Yes, quite some time ago, with that first anime volume. Or do you mean a translated version?

Thought so. So is there a translated version? What happened? Is it the one I found at Baka-Tsuki?

[Kakurin]

Originally Posted by Lucarion

Thought so. So is there a translated version? What happened? Is it the one I found at Baka-Tsuki?

As far as I know it's not on baka-tsuki. And I also don't know of any other translation out there.

[Lucarion]

Originally Posted by SigUp

As far as I know it's not on baka-tsuki. And I also don't know of any other translation out there.

I see...thank you.

Edit: Oh, and just getting this out here, but if anyone has a link to the translated mini-novel, PLEASE!-- I will be eternally grateful if you can post a link...My wincest loving spirit refuses to let it end as I have heard.

[virox]

This probably isn't the correct thread for this anymore, but now that the final episodes are released, we got another interview which might help clearing some ambiguity.
http://yaraon.blog109.fc2.com/blog-entry-18109.html

It seems that the author wanted the final kiss in the anime to be on the lips.

[relentlessflame]

Yup, that was already discussed in Anime Spoilers & Speculation

[Guidenstern]

Hello.
After watching the last episode of Oreimo, and of course being frustrated, I've read many things on this thread (like the author interview which confirms censorship) and I have a question:

In the end of the anime series, Kyosuke just kiss Kirino on the cheek (and I don't even remember her asking him to buy her another ring), and right now you're saying fushimi wanted a kiss on the lips.
Does that mean that in the novel, not only Kirino is asking for that ring, but Kyosuke is also kissing her on the lips?



edit-> oh and I forgot: I understand now well that the story 10years later in the first blue-ray volume is probably worthless, but is there any other work of the same kind we can expect for the other blue-rays? Like a story years later which confirms even in a subtle way that they are still together?

[Kakurin]

Originally Posted by Guidenstern

In the end of the anime series, Kyosuke just kiss Kirino on the cheek (and I don't even remember her asking him to buy her another ring), and right now you're saying fushimi wanted a kiss on the lips.
Does that mean that in the novel, not only Kirino is asking for that ring, but Kyosuke is also kissing her on the lips?

Although the novel doesn't specify where he kissed her, but as this is the opinion of the author himself, I just assume the kiss on the lips as canon for the novel (and for me myself, also for the anime story...).

[Soverence]

Originally Posted by SigUp

Although the novel doesn't specify where he kissed her, but as this is the opinion of the author himself, I just assume the kiss on the lips as canon for the novel (and for me myself, also for the anime story...).

I honestly wonder why he didn't write that Kyousuke kissed her on the lips if that is what he wanted, did the publisher not want him to write even that?

[Kakurin]

Originally Posted by Soverence

I honestly wonder why he didn't write that Kyousuke kissed her on the lips if that is what he wanted, did the publisher not want him to write even that?

That's a good question. Maybe it was the publisher, or perhaps he just thought it was obvious, don't know. Perhaps I'm the only guy thinking so, but when I read:

"— Suddenly, I kissed her."

without specification of the location, I always think of the lips first in that kind of a situation.

[Densetsuhakai]

Originally Posted by SigUp

That's a good question. Maybe it was the publisher, or perhaps he just thought it was obvious, don't know. Perhaps I'm the only guy thinking so, but when I read:

"— Suddenly, I kissed her."

without specification of the location, I always think of the lips first in that kind of a situation.

Nope, you are not the only one. I thought too that it was on the lips. In my opinion by the end of the story it was pretty obvious that he kissed her on the lips.It doesn't even occurred to me that it could be on the cheek instead.

[GVN.Chaos]

Originally Posted by SigUp

That's a good question. Maybe it was the publisher, or perhaps he just thought it was obvious, don't know. Perhaps I'm the only guy thinking so, but when I read:

"— Suddenly, I kissed her."

without specification of the location, I always think of the lips first in that kind of a situation.

Actually, when I first read it, I think it's a kiss on the forehead. A kiss on the lips is not really normal, even for siblings, but a kiss on the cheek seemed to shallow for the near lover-like status. But, well, after reading till the end, my opinions changed too.

[Kakurin]

Originally Posted by GVN.Chaos

Actually, when I first read it, I think it's a kiss on the forehead. A kiss on the lips is not really normal, even for siblings, but a kiss on the cheek seemed to shallow for the near lover-like status. But, well, after reading till the end, my opinions changed too.

Well, even while I was quick translating that Chinese quick translation I never saw them as really being back to normal siblings, despite what they outwardly stated and perhaps even behaved. So, while I do agree that a kiss on the lips is not normal for siblings (well, unless you are talking about the socialist fraternal kiss of old ), I still imagined it as being on the lips.

[Soverence]

Originally Posted by SigUp

Well, even while I was quick translating that Chinese quick translation I never saw them as really being back to normal siblings, despite what they outwardly stated and perhaps even behaved. So, while I do agree that a kiss on the lips is not normal for siblings (well, unless you are talking about the socialist fraternal kiss of old ), I still imagined it as being on the lips.

Well, I feel like most of us probably imagined it on the lips because of how we view the two by the end of the series, as a pair of lovers even if they state otherwise. When someone commonly says the words kissed you think of a kiss on the lips, especially if they are lovers, if the kiss is anywhere else it is usually specified at that point. Maybe the author just assumed we would all make this assumption like Sig said. On the note of them being back to normal siblings, I have always viewed it as them being back to "normal" as in how they were before he confessed which is not in anyway normal in reality .

[GVN.Chaos]

Originally Posted by SigUp

Well, even while I was quick translating that Chinese quick translation I never saw them as really being back to normal siblings, despite what they outwardly stated and perhaps even behaved. So, while I do agree that a kiss on the lips is not normal for siblings (well, unless you are talking about the socialist fraternal kiss of old ), I still imagined it as being on the lips.

Originally Posted by Soverence

Well, I feel like most of us probably imagined it on the lips because of how we view the two by the end of the series, as a pair of lovers even if they state otherwise. When someone commonly says the words kissed you think of a kiss on the lips, especially if they are lovers, if the kiss is anywhere else it is usually specified at that point. Maybe the author just assumed we would all make this assumption like Sig said. On the note of them being back to normal siblings, I have always viewed it as them being back to "normal" as in how they were before he confessed which is not in anyway normal in reality .

Eutou...common sense anyone? They just agree to break up like a few pages before, and a kiss on the forehead is both pass as something a siblings/lover might do. Yet all of you think they lips-lock?

[VORTIA]

Originally Posted by GVN.Chaos

Eutou...common sense anyone? They just agree to break up like a few pages before, and a kiss on the forehead is both pass as something a siblings/lover might do. Yet all of you think they lips-lock?

I imagined it on the lips because I saw it as Kyosuke calling Kirino out on how bullshit the idea of a brother buying a sister a ring was. It was like him saying "Oh, so if your brother can buy you a ring, he can also make out with you, right?"

Essentially, the whole scene read to me that they both were admitting that they weren't going to be able to be "normal" siblings, if they even, in fact, even knew what that meant in the first place.

[jrod]

Originally Posted by VORTIA

I imagined it on the lips because I saw it as Kyosuke calling Kirino out on how bullshit the idea of a brother buying a sister a ring was. It was like him saying "Oh, so if your brother can buy you a ring, he can also make out with you, right?"

Essentially, the whole scene read to me that they both were admitting that they weren't going to be able to be "normal" siblings, if they even, in fact, even knew what that meant in the first place.

I kinda think it's Kyousuke's tit-for-tat for Kirino's request for a ring.

"If you think a bro buying a ring for his sis, which lovers usually do, is considered normal for siblings, then I will also think kissing you, which lovers usually do, is considered normal for siblings"

[relentlessflame]

The fact that it was a ring was also pretty darn important, since it recounts their first date in Akiba (when he didn't buy the ring), their "engagement" a year later (when he did buy the ring from the first year), and now she's asking him for a ring again. Kyousuke definitely understood the message she was sending and was responding in kind.

[jrod]

Originally Posted by relentlessflame

The fact that it was a ring was also pretty darn important, since it recounts their first date in Akiba (when he didn't buy the ring), their "engagement" a year later (when he did buy the ring from the first year), and now she's asking him for a ring again. Kyousuke definitely understood the message she was sending and was responding in kind.

Exactly, and so it confirms, albeit subtly by the Author that Oreimo is afterall, a love story between siblings, which many readers/watchers tend to be ignorant/ or refuse to admit.

[Silaqui]

Originally Posted by relentlessflame

The fact that it was a ring was also pretty darn important, since it recounts their first date in Akiba (when he didn't buy the ring), their "engagement" a year later (when he did buy the ring from the first year), and now she's asking him for a ring again. Kyousuke definitely understood the message she was sending and was responding in kind.

I kinda like this interpretation and it really works for me. With asking for another ring she shows Kyousuke that doesn't want to be just normal siblings. Kyousuke understands that hint, uses his wish to kiss her to show her that he feels the same and so the "life counseling" starts again and both (especially Kirino as shown in the anime) are happy.

Silaqui.