(L) Rosario+Vampire Manga

[amtro]

Originally Posted by fate2011

Where did you get the new chapter?

Asking for scans in a licensed manga thread is against the rules. Go away.

[Wood_Woody]

Originally Posted by Chris38

Spoiler for 65-2:

Well, if I have to put my opinion on this chapter. I would say that s**t has finally hit the fan.

And probably RIP Outer Moka , since I don't see how she would survive this ... after all, at this point, even Inner Moka's life might be endangered.

Don't know how this arc is going to end, but Ikeda definitely isn't holding back anymore, when it comes to "dramatic situations" .

Spoiler for Chapter 65-2:

Totally. Seems like Akhua neglected to listen to Akashas advice.

[Chris38]

Originally Posted by Wood_Woody

Spoiler for Chapter 65-2:

Totally. Seems like Akhua neglected to listen to Akashas advice.

Spoiler for 65-2:

Well, she fragmented him into a lot of pieces, that barely resembled his "original form", so maybe she thought that he wouldn't be capable of regenerating from that state.

Unfortunately she was wrong... but I think that she tried everything she could to "defeat" Alucard ... and she had a pretty good motive to do that, considering what happened to "Jasmine" - which, I think was something that Alucard was responsible for, which is the reason, why we have seen this "flashback" in the latest chapter.

[Soji]

Ok....

Spoiler for spoiler:

My hatred for Alucard jus skyrocketed.

When I start to read this manga I would never guess that something like this, like what we see in this ch would ever happen.

Also, I'm the only one who thinks that we will see Tsukune Berseker mode again? I mean after what just happen I can see him go all out even if it means becoming a monster andI doubt that this time Kurumo would be able to stop him / bring him back.

[Deus Ex]

Spoiler for 65-2:

Dear lord....this chapter...i'm speechless...everyone is in deep trouble...
I have no idea how this mess will be resolved....
Seeing Jasmine like that was sad sight....that damn Alucard....

Spoiler:

As for Tsukune going berserk...it feels like he's too broken by what happened to Moka to do anything...

[Chris38]

Originally Posted by Deux Ex

Spoiler:

As for Tsukune going berserk...it feels like he's too broken by what happened to Moka to do anything...

Spoiler for 65-2:

Not to mention, I don't see how Tsukune going into berserk mode would solve anything.

Since, it's definitely not powerful enough to counter the regenerative ability that Alucard demonstrated in this chapter.

[Soji]

Deux Ex and Chris38

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Do not get me wrong his Berserker form is something that I do not want to see right now.

But is something that I can see happen for a few reasons.

1 He is already in a critical state after his last fight.

2 Alucard just Kill Moka(and I think this is what he think) before his eyes.

3 Other Moka he get hurt as well.

4 We know that his will power play a big role in keep his his sanity and like Deux Ex point out is pretty broken in this moment.

So yeah I can see that happen for this reason even if that form can do anything againt Alucard.

[cyberdemon]

wow shit just got real

Spoiler for Moka speculation:

I doubt Outer Moka is dead. I'm still betting that she is actually the original but has been suppressed under the might of the shinso blood since her birth and that the rosario was actually suppressing the blood enough to release her. Though with what happened to the rosario they probably will all think that she is dead for a while.

[Chris38]

Originally Posted by cyberdemon

wow shit just got real

Spoiler for Moka speculation:

I doubt Outer Moka is dead. I'm still betting that she is actually the original but has been suppressed under the might of the shinso blood since her birth and that the rosario was actually suppressing the blood enough to release her. Though with what happened to the rosario they probably will all think that she is dead for a while.

If you're speculation is "correct" we might get some confirmation on this matter a few chapters, after this arc ends.

Since, at the current moment, it's pretty hard to verify this.

[Deus Ex]

Originally Posted by cyberdemon

wow shit just got real

Spoiler for Moka speculation:

I doubt Outer Moka is dead. I'm still betting that she is actually the original but has been suppressed under the might of the shinso blood since her birth and that the rosario was actually suppressing the blood enough to release her. Though with what happened to the rosario they probably will all think that she is dead for a while.

I don't agree with you. I don't think that Omote is the "original" but Ura.
Omote was "born" when Akasha put the Rosary on Ura.

[cyberdemon]

Originally Posted by Deux Ex

I don't agree with you. I don't think that Omote is the "original" but Ura.
Omote was "born" when Akasha put the Rosary on Ura.

how can we know that though? Even Akasha might not have been aware since Ura Moka was the one she raised. she may never have been aware that Omote was there in the first place. Ura may have been the one to grow up but Omote could've been the one originally born. Tsukune got a berserk side from the blood and he was grown up. I have to imagine that using it on a baby would have similar effects. Moka grew up with it though so it would be less noticeable. Not to mention that a chapter or 2 ago Omote said she had been trying to speak to Ura while the rosario was removed. She should've known that she couldn't without the rosario on UNLESS she was still there in the body and not the rosario but without the rosario there was like a wall between them because of the blood.

[Johnny]

Originally Posted by cyberdemon

how can we know that though?

Because of the flashback arc chapters that's why...And birth, she wasn't born a shinso...

[cyberdemon]

Originally Posted by Johnny

Because of the flashback arc chapters that's why...And birth, she wasn't born a shinso...

Bad choice of wording on my part. But yes Moka wasn't born a shinso. Even as a vampire she should still have some negative effects from the shinso blood. Tsukune got this super powered evil side. Those other vampires from the Shuzen family went berserk. Yet Moka seems like a normal vampire otherwise. There had to be some negative effect on her considering she was just a baby at the time. Neither her mnd or her body should've been developed enough to handle it as easily as it had been made out. Akasha could've lied or may not even have been aware of Omote's existence since the one she raised was Ura.

[Chris38]

Originally Posted by cyberdemon

Akasha could've lied or may not even have been aware of Omote's existence.

It has also been confirmed by Tohou Fuhai in chapter 57 on page 4 (3 if you ignore the credit page) that the Rosario is the core of Outer Moka's personality.

He is also the person who actually revealed what was the cause of the Rosario's ability to "control" Alucard.

Unless you want to say, that he was lying or is mistaken about Outer Moka's existence, as well, so far we have two people who confirm the fact that Outer Moka is an "artificial" personality created from the Rosario, and so far there is not enough information for us to disrupt this interpretation.

I agree that there might have been some side effects of obtaining Alucard's blood, but I think that they have been reduced due to Moka being the daughter of Akasha ... after all, while it's true that the blood itself can't be inherited through heredity, it might be possible that some genetic information is passed to the child, which makes it's body a little more adaptable to the strain that a Shinso's blood has.

[Soji]

Spoiler for spoiler:

it is quite clear that we can say goodbye to Outer Moka, this time.

I mean, Alucard tentacle not only went through Moka's heart but also through the gem eyes like, which is located at the center of the rosary.(and I think some one already point out this).

I can't see something like that be fixed......ok they have more pressing matter.

Let's just hope that Tsukune and Moka don't end up to be his snack...... I mean with the whole scene being similar a what happen to Akasha in the past.

[Chris38]

Originally Posted by Soji

Spoiler for spoiler:

Let's just hope that Tsukune and Moka don't end up to be his snack...... I mean with the whole scene being similar a what happen to Akasha in the past.

Spoiler for 65-2:

I don't think that's going to happen, since I think that all of the events that are happening in this arc, are a part of Moka's and Tsukune's "destiny" that Jack Frost talked about.

For that "prophecy" to be fulfilled, naturally Moka (at least the Inner one) and Tsukune should survive the events of the current arc.

After all, Jack Frost did say that Moka and Tsukune are dangerous, which fits with the revelation, from the current arc, that both of them have Alucard's blood in their veins, and that bad things might happen to people who surround them, which fits with the current situation...

I also think that the person who will slightly turn around this situation is going to be the Bus Driver, since out of the entire group on the "human or good side", he is still unharmed, and I also think that there is a reason why Ikeda shows him so frequently during the recent events that occur in the current arc.

[cyberdemon]

Originally Posted by Chris38

It has also been confirmed by Tohou Fuhai in chapter 57 on page 4 (3 if you ignore the credit page) that the Rosario is the core of Outer Moka's personality.

He is also the person who actually revealed what was the cause of the Rosario's ability to "control" Alucard.

Unless you want to say, that he was lying or is mistaken about Outer Moka's existence, as well, so far we have two people who confirm the fact that Outer Moka is an "artificial" personality created from the Rosario, and so far there is not enough information for us to disrupt this interpretation.

I agree that there might have been some side effects of obtaining Alucard's blood, but I think that they have been reduced due to Moka being the daughter of Akasha ... after all, while it's true that the blood itself can't be inherited through heredity, it might be possible that some genetic information is passed to the child, which makes it's body a little more adaptable to the strain that a Shinso's blood has.

not necessarily. Touhu Fuhai doesn't seem to know everything about the rosario, he was surprised when he first looked it over and saw it wasn't what he thought. Plus they could've meant to create an artificial personality to fill the void when Ura was sealed only to have a previously unknown real one take it's place. There is far too many unknowns still about the rosario and Akasha to say for certainty that everything is as it seems.

[Alhazad2003]

Originally Posted by Chris38

Spoiler for 65-2:

Well, if I have to put my opinion on this chapter. I would say that s**t has finally hit the fan.

And probably RIP Outer Moka , since I don't see how she would survive this ... after all, at this point, even Inner Moka's life might be endangered.

Don't know how this arc is going to end, but Ikeda definitely isn't holding back anymore, when it comes to "dramatic situations" .

Hmm, strange that the next chapter would be 65.2, does this mean 65 is the last chapter of the season?

Spoiler:

If that's true, then what a way to end it. The Rosario's core was skewered, which essentially means Omote is dead, the rest of the group have been trolled, and Alucard is an even bigger troll than we'd anticipated. I think he just demonstrated that as long as his blood survives, he can always come back. So cutting him to pieces was basically meaningless, as Akuha just found out. So unless someone has a Super Saiyan 2 Kamehameha on hand, there's no way to truly destroy Alucard. Which means it's really gonna suck, for everyone.

[Chris38]

Originally Posted by Alhazad2003

Hmm, strange that the next chapter would be 65.2, does this mean 65 is the last chapter of the season?

I doubt it, since it would have some kind of announcement, at the ending page or near it, if that has been the case. I think that Ikeda just separated a single chapter into two parts, like he did with chapter 59, which is the reason why the earlier month's chapter had a lesser number of pages then usual.

Originally Posted by Alhazad2003

Spoiler:

If that's true, then what a way to end it. The Rosario's core was skewered, which essentially means Omote is dead, the rest of the group have been trolled, and Alucard is an even bigger troll than we'd anticipated. I think he just demonstrated that as long as his blood survives, he can always come back. So cutting him to pieces was basically meaningless, as Akuha just found out. So unless someone has a Super Saiyan 2 Kamehameha on hand, there's no way to truly destroy Alucard. Which means it's really gonna suck, for everyone.

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Well, I still think that he has some weak points, which are pretty hard to find.

After all, I doubt that Ikeda would create an "unbeatable" opponent for Tsukune, Moka and the rest of the group.

The problem is that they have no way to find this weak point, in the current situation, which is the reason why they need to hurry up and get the hell out of there, unless they want to commit suicide.

Unfortunately this time, it's the bad guy's win, but that doesn't mean that they can't change the situation during the rematch, which won't occur anytime soon, since ... after all, they need to get a lot more powerful, before that happens.

[Alhazad2003]

Originally Posted by Chris38

I doubt it, since it would have some kind of announcement, at the ending page or near it, if that has been the case. I think that Ikeda just separated a single chapter into two parts, like he did with chapter 59, which is the reason why the earlier month's chapter had a lesser number of pages then usual.

Ah, okay, was just wondering about that. Though I do say the end is nigh for this season, and what an end it is.

Spoiler for 65-2:

Well, I still think that he has some weak points, which are pretty hard to find.

After all, I doubt that Ikeda would create an "unbeatable" opponent for Tsukune, Moka and the rest of the group.

The problem is that they have no way to find this weak point, in the current situation, which is the reason why they need to hurry up and get the hell out of there, unless they want to commit suicide.

Unfortunately this time, it's the bad guy's win, but that doesn't mean that they can't change the situation during the rematch, which won't occur anytime soon, since ... after all, they need to get a lot more powerful, before that happens.

Spoiler:

I'm sure he does have weaknesses, though as you said, there's no way for the heroes to exploit them now. Especially since he just skewered Moka and Tsukune with punitive ease. I just mentioned the Kamehameha because Alucard almost seems as indestructible as Super Perfect Cell from Dragon Ball Z, who could completely regenerate his entire body as long as one cell remained. Seems the same with Alucard, as long as his blood survives, he can always come back. Diabolical, even if Akasha did come back, she couldn't possibly stop him on her own. At the moment, no one can. So now, dark times lie ahead, dark times indeed.