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View Poll Results: Nanoha - StrikerS - Episode 17 Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 74 | 69.16% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 20 | 18.69% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 8 | 7.48% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 2 | 1.87% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 0 | 0% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 0 | 0% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 1 | 0.93% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 2 | 1.87% | |
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2007-07-22, 22:18 | Link #141 | |||
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(Somebody get Skane on the line please?)
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You're basically trying to justify that anyone with enough power can do whatever they want to prove their point. Quote:
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And the way he sees people as test subjects... Doesn't scream "loves lives". EDIT: Because Jail isn't fighting crime.
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2007-07-22, 22:22 | Link #142 | |
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Anyway, latest episode with the Terminator was a big suprise. What is with Subaru now? Is she a lost relic weapon, or a hybrid from a sentient machine? I'm taking the later since her internals appear to 'grow' with her. Thing is, it neatly explains how she is able to smack several tonnes of metal around without any problems. I'm betting her dad has some explaining to do. Need to look at the clip again to see if the Numbers left Ginga's R-Knuckle behind. The nightmare scenario would be for Subaru to use both, load 10 cartridges and just flatten the opposition >_< |
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2007-07-22, 22:27 | Link #143 |
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Nope.
But Jail wanted to prove, and did prove, that the TSAB (or at least the Ground force) is unfit to protect Midchilda. And he did that using TSAB's methods: violence, not lethal if possible. From Jail's point of vue, freeing the universe from TSAB's rule (and especially the ban on Lost Logia) is a good deed. (And indeed, IMHO, getting rid of Regius would be a Good Thing. But I digress.) I said creator of life. That's not exactly the same thing. His job is to create life. |
2007-07-22, 22:27 | Link #144 |
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lets see...
-Ginga beaten up and taken away alongside with Vivio. -Zafira and Shamal beaten and maybe at the brink of death just like Ginga. -Erio unconscious and beaten, Subaru beaten. -Vice coming out of retirement and tried sniping but got caught off guard by Lutecia because of a past incident and got beat. -Vita and Rein beaten by Zest...and without UNISON! (this part I'm not too sure yet...) I'd say RF6 has met its first defeat. I think we all misjudge Scaglietti as being a wimpy scientist/villain...he's actually far worse than what Precia and Reinforce did in the past seasons. Last edited by Ultima_Rasengan05; 2007-07-22 at 22:28. Reason: not too sure... |
2007-07-22, 22:30 | Link #145 | |
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2007-07-22, 22:35 | Link #147 | |
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Join Date: May 2007
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Just got the peercast raw and finished watching it. Still shaking at Subaru's berserker mode. It wasn't unexpected given all the hints that were dropped from the manga and early episodes (ability to learn and master magic and shooting arts under a year; insane physical strength even without magic boosting; ability to take heavy impact without flinching; Wing Road being an Influent Skill; Jail referring to Erio, Fate and Subaru as children of Project F etc), but what a way to bring it to the fore. I have to admit I did feel for Subaru after that though. Even giving it almost her all she was still beaten by chickenshit tactics, and saw her beloved sister virtually dead and carted off in a suitcase. Now we can only hope to see Subaru getting her revenge by literally ripping some Numbers to shreds - her explosive Inherent Skill won't be doing otherwise. I personally think that after this attack, RF6 will be ditching the "take them in alive" policy and going all out. Declaration of war, perhaps? Well worth the 8 1/2 hour wait for the torrent to appear. Think I'll go watch it again. |
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2007-07-22, 22:37 | Link #148 | |||
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Jail has the power to do what he did, which he did because he wants to. He choose to attack them. And you seem clouded about the TSAB, they HAVE to use violence sometimes because criminals don't go peacefully. Remember what happened to Teana's brother? Quote:
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EDIT: Yup, except that injust law only seems to apply to HIM.
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2007-07-22, 22:39 | Link #149 | |
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Which means, the more of his minions they capture alive, the more chances they have to gain some information, the better. |
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2007-07-22, 22:40 | Link #150 |
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I think after this incident, I don't think any of the numbers will be alive at the end of this season...just from this, they have demonstrated how hostile and dangerous they can be.
So if Subaru had the same colored eyes as the Numbers when she went berserk mode, then that means the Numbers are cyborgs themselves. I wonder if Nanoha even knows about Subaru and Ginga's Cyborg bodies. Forget that, I wonder if all of RF6, excluding the forwards though, knew about their bodies... |
2007-07-22, 22:41 | Link #151 |
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Join Date: Dec 2005
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You guys are forgetting Vivio.
Remember that the whole "getting Relics" thing was a happy bonus - finding her was the jackpot. He's got something to do with her, something involving the holy whatsitcalled; possibly she's the host for whatever he's planning on creating. (But she's not irreplaceable, else they wouldn't have tried zapping the copter she was in.) The real question is, where did she come from? She didn't come from Jail's organization. Is there still a Project F lab somewhere? Was she a military prototype? It's significant that there's a "holy" involved; we only have one church in the show so far, folks, so it's entirely possible that they're involved somehow. And boy, wouldn't that suck? ;p Had a nasty thought about Regius. Why didn't he take heed, bulk up, prevent the attack, when it makes him look incompetent? What if he agrees with Jail in the first place? By sacrificing his own HQ, he pounds home the point that current TSAB doctrine is inferior, and opens up the perfect opportunity for him to push for combat cyborgs in his own force... and what do you know, here's a guy who has the technology and production facilities handy, how nice, how nice. Were they working together from the beginning? Or is Regius just a small-minded twit? We do know that he thinks he has a superweapon under his belt... could be cyborgs, could be whatever produced Vivio, could be something completely different. On another note, keep in mind that Lutecia is after something completely different from Jail, and the Numbers are all a little deferential to her; it's entirely possible she could serve as a wedge, depending on how the plot turns out. |
2007-07-22, 22:42 | Link #152 |
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Sociopaths usually do manage to find a reason to excuse their behaviour. Doesn't change the fact that he'd, probably quite happily, personally crush-throttle the life out of all our favorite characters at his time and pleasure, if he had the physical strength to bring them down. Maybe the producers need to do that to shatter the illusion of such philosophical motives....
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2007-07-22, 22:45 | Link #153 | |
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2007-07-22, 22:46 | Link #154 | |
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Forgot about Regius, what did he do in this episode anyways? he didn't even prevent the attacks being executed in this battle with his own troops? this makes him even more suspicious if he's in cooperation with Scaglietti and his creation of the Einjehars...I'm also awaiting the awakening of Regius' Einjehars and how it will impact the way how these turn of events have turned out. I'm guessing Vivio could be the key to these Einjehars and that Regius could be in fact, be Scaglietti's so called client. |
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2007-07-22, 22:46 | Link #155 | ||
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But I personally don't think many of RF6 will care about the diplomatic solution after an unprovoked attack. But if taking some Numbers down leads to Jail, then that'd work too. Quote:
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2007-07-22, 22:47 | Link #156 | |
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From Jail's point of vue: TSAB are Bads Guys, you have to stop them by any means necessary, including violence. I really don't think I used that word. Yes and no. He thinks that TSAB's law hampers humanity's development. |
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2007-07-22, 22:53 | Link #157 | |
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I don't really see how any of that entitles Jail to a pre-emptive strike on the TSAB and the RF6 HQ, let alone kidnapping anyone he pleases.
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2007-07-22, 22:53 | Link #158 |
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Here's the big irony of Dr. J asking people to get out of the building while he's redecorating- how is the entire crew going to get out when surrounded by a legion of AMF hax drones? The hax means there will be no teleporting, phasing and flying for anyone capable of doing so. Doesn't help that the drone have only one setting, Kill all opposition.
These guys are worse than Daleks, at least the cans from Dr. Who can't climb stairs [later models levitate though ]. I envision the next few episodes will be about R6 being dismantled and eventually going rogue with their coincedently "decomissioned" ship, Subaru's Emo time with dad and Erio having to deal with being severely underpowered [as usual]. |
2007-07-22, 22:54 | Link #159 |
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So...if Subaru is a cyborg, what is the little girl that Nanoha saved right at the start of episode 1? I don't think cyborgs can grow into teenagehood naturally.
There has to be some other explanation to this. Maybe the arm that was injured was merely a cybernetic replacement, and the body itself is still largely organic. Or maybe, just maybe, it is a plothole that will be conveniently forgotten and never resolved.
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2007-07-22, 22:56 | Link #160 | ||
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Magic. And it's clearly not just the arms. We saw some small holes on Subaru's abdomen, and there was no blood flowing from it... I think. And the eyes as well.
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