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I don't believe Beth can control Alicia at her will. I think Beth just keeps her sister's soul from succumbing to the Awakening. Maybe I'm not understanding completely the Soul-link but this is what I think. Quote:
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Alicia has not started to figth yet. She'll probrably attack Riful next chapter and their figth will be interrupted by the thing that comes out of Beth. Quote:
Besides, Riful said herself that she wouldn't let Renne go even if Renne had told her that Awakening Raciella would kill her imediatelly. This goes against the promise that she made to Renne. Quote:
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And the AFs were not confused, they were just not going to get in the midde of Alicia's hunt, maybe they were even programmed to not attack Riful if Alicia is around Quote:
The only reasonable reason I see for Alicia not killing Riful as soon as she reverted to human is if Alicia was somehow paralysed by Beth's condition. Quote:
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2009-09-04, 11:08 | Link #282 |
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Interesting looking chapter, I can't wait to read the translations. I was a bit surprised that Beth was hit by a rod seeing as how she avoided dauf's attacks, though he isn't the fastest in the world was very close to her. But I am not complaining about that because in a fight anything can happen. I'm pretty sure that atm Beth is a goner considering she has a telephone pole in her torso that is also sucking the youki out of her. I think it is a good fate for her if you will; all Beth does is hold Alicia's soul/humanity while Alicia awakens and handles her business. Or in my eyes, Beth does all the work while Alicia gets to have all the fun. I do hope however that whatever comes out of that rod will look different from the other Luciella look-a-likes.
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honor – noun 1. honesty, fairness, or integrity in one's beliefs and actions moral – adjective 1. of, pertaining to, or concerned with the principles or rules of right conduct or the distinction between right and wrong As for the whole Renee thing, you misunderstood what Riful said. Riful starts out saying that Renee should've told her what was really going on. But then Riful thinks about it and realizes that she probably wouldn't have believed her and was a bit impatient. This is because of Clare, and Riful feeling betrayed by Clare. Riful has always honored her deals. Then she made a deal with Clare, someone she likes, and she fully expected Clare to keep her end of the Bargain. After the betrayal of trust, Riful isn't as patient and trusting anymore; she is constantly suspicious of the other person, that, that person will try to decieve her, and she isn't willing to take deception anymore. What Riful was saying is that she probably would've ended up killing Renee thinking that the girl tried to decieve her, after Riful told her the consequences of deception. Quote:
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2009-09-04, 12:30 | Link #289 |
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She could've helped Beth block it but not dodge. And I don't think those can be blocked.
PS: I wonder if those things infect a live AB only or just any Ab's chunk of flesh. If the latter was the case, we would expect to see major facepalm resurrections... |
2009-09-04, 12:37 | Link #290 |
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Data Book has a very good description of soul link. It does not imply the recipient of the 'soul' mind controls the awakened half of the link.
Also, Rafaela was deemed being the weak link when their soul link failed. It was due to her inability to suppress Luciela's awakening through their flawed soul link with imperfect youki alignment/syncronization. We see Rafaela trying to pull back Luciella by yelling at her to return back to claymore. It doesn't seem to indicate she is controlling Luciella. |
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2) I'm leaning towards no. Even if Alicia could beat back the Org's conditioning by fully awakening, I'm sure such a process takes time. Riful is better off trying to kill her. Even if that's too risky, I doubt trying to persuade her will have any effect on her right now. 3) Well, it's hard to say but it's a pretty sizable distance. The Ghosts are near Raciella right now and Riful is trying to get away from her. But again, I doubt, memories or no, that Claire will abandon her friends to go help an enemy. Quote:
She's not stupid in the sense that she's not logical; she's stupid in the sense that yes, she's lost her individuality. She has no indepedence, no personality, no emotions...to me, losing your own sense of self and being the walking puppet of the Organization = mindless. I don't know how much clearer I can make it for you. Quote:
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Though I do wonder how on earth Dauf is still alive. I say he can still die from his injuries so he's not totally free yet, but the fact he's still breathing doesn't make me happy -_- .......... |
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2009-09-04, 13:30 | Link #294 |
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Databook is published with Yagi's blessing. So the theories, descriptions, charts in there would need to go through Yagi before he would let them publish it. If he approves them, I don't see any reason to doubt them. There are some inconsistancies but overall databook has been pretty much canon.
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2009-09-04, 13:34 | Link #295 | |
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BTW, you are still quoting wrong, and make it look like I am saying the next two quotes after the one that says it is from me. I think it makes things a little confusing, but be careful, because I've seen people get really upset on here when someone did that, saying that the quoter was sneakily trying to make it seem they were saying things that they didn't. An overreaction IMO, but that is one reason you should attribute quotes. just add the =Gangsta or =MisterJB like (quote=Gangsta) blah blah blah (/quote) |
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Well, put it this way, it's not like they can think for themselves. They only know what is necessary for soul-linking and battle, they have no real knowledge of....anything else. Right now, Alicia has lost Beth and is still in her awakened state. I think, whatever happens next chapter, will show clearly just how much intelligence she has when she's not on the Organization's leach, and I'm not expecting much. Bet you anything they used Cnet's translations. Quote:
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Anyway, like I said before, I think Alicia will return to the state of mind to how old she was before they started the mind link training. So I'm expecting a child. |
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2009-09-04, 13:57 | Link #300 |
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The mini Luciela might be individually fairly powerful. IMO AF is still better then them. For example, all Isley has to do is completely destroy all the mini Lucielas where as AF will keep on regen back and then escape and share experience and improve.
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