(L) BLUE DROP ~Tenshitachi no Gikyoku~

[SIshtar]

Originally Posted by Mentar

In reference to my last entry:

Spoiler:

I believe that the by-product substance created by the EFD implosion might be the reason for Onomil's "reappearance". Hagino desperately wished for Onomil to reappear, so that she could ask for forgiveness and be absolved from her feeling of guilt. This wish appeared...

Manga reference

Spoiler:

Yes, but if I remember right, in the manga, thought weapons (for example Yui's angel) don't speak.
Onomil "ghost" does speak and soundly....

[Seska]

Originally Posted by FlareKnight

Spoiler for Ep11:

I just don't know with Azanael. One moment she's trying to kill them, next she's hanging around the ship, then she's sabotaging the ship and finally she's bothered by the Master Commander wanting to completely annihilate it. Hard to say what this woman is going to pull next episode.

Spoiler:

Perhaps she will take the Master Commander off her chair. With the help of the other s "Scout/reckon Fleet ship commanders" or she will open an Channel to the Main Invasion Fleet to inform her, that Master Commander has betray the entire operation...

She looks now to me like an old hard hand General (The Master Commander)
She only know the hard hand, crush the "Enemy's" with weapons, don't let any weak ones stay alive.She is the Violent side of the Invasion..

Hagino. She like to cooperate with the "Enemy" so she is the Friendly side of the Invasion

or other scenario...

Hagino has try something other way to "invasion" the Humans without force. Key scene Azanel Episode 10, telling Mari, that 1 Human Female was in Resonance with the Emul Drice Force something, but she died with the Landing troops together. Ergo, she was befriend with her, or at last she know her.

And that what not the way of the Master Commander how they should do the Invasion. Invasion with brute, bloody strength of their full Army power, no Mercy...
So the Master Commander becomes envy of Haginos success and used her Direct command to sabotage the Blues Emul Drive engine. So that the Effect of Human brains went deadly for them. Thats because Hagino cannot understand it... i Think the Landing troops was not affected of this Waves, but they died in the big explosion afterwards... But, i still wonder how the Story write will say us, how Tsubael survived this Explosion?. Because she was inside of Blue, and the Landing troops where outside already? Then.. why not Troops movement displays on Haginos Ship, after searching the big round dot?...

Perhaps i found a plot hole here, sorry for that

Uff, it ended a bit longer then excepted. But it is still good...

And i take Mentars TL. Because in the other Sub, the Emul Drive Force was ignored in the line. But Azanel has say it... It is to confuss. So Mentars TL fit better.. Sry. But the rest was good for fast TL.

I am sad, that Simoun-fans looks like death... Well. enjoy anyway.. Perhaps there will be a miracle and they catch up in rabbit speed

[Kazu-kun]

Originally Posted by SIshtar

Manga reference

Spoiler:

Yes, but if I remember right, in the manga, thought weapons (for example Yui's angel) don't speak.
Onomil "ghost" does speak and soundly....

Spoiler for manga:

Actually, YUI's fake image of herself can move and speak. I don't see why she wouldn't be able to make the angel do the same if she wanted.

Originally Posted by Seska

Spoiler:

Hagino has try something other way to "invasion" the Humans without force. Key scene Azanel Episode 10, telling Mari, that 1 Human Female was in Resonance with the Emul Drice Force something, but she died with the Landing troops together. Ergo, she was befriend with her, or at last she know her.

That's just mistranslation. Azanael is talking in general, about the effect of the Emiru Force waves upon all the inhabitant of the island and Blue's 200 crew members.

[SIshtar]

Originally Posted by Kazu-kun

Spoiler for manga:

Actually, YUI's fake image of herself can move and speak. I don't see why she wouldn't be able to make the angel do the same if she wanted.

Spoiler for manga:

About this scene, I wasn't sure where was the true Yui ending and the fake Yui beginning.
Maybe you're right...the thought weapons can speak.

[FatPianoBoy]

Originally Posted by Kazu-kun

Spoiler for manga:

Actually, YUI's fake image of herself can move and speak. I don't see why she wouldn't be able to make the angel do the same if she wanted.

Originally Posted by SIshtar

Spoiler for manga:

About this scene, I wasn't sure where was the true Yui ending and the fake Yui beginning.
Maybe you're right...the thought weapons can speak.

Spoiler for manga again:

Also, the Emiru representation of Misato that Yui shoots speaks, and Mariel's decoy to snare Razael gives an entire monologue.

Spoiler for 11:

Now, this was actually my first thought: the visage of Onomil was some kind of Emiru Force representation. But, even if that's the case (which may or may not be at this point), someone would have to be manipulating that Emiru Force. Since it wasn't Tsubael or Ekaril (unless she did it subconsciously), if it is simply a representation and not the real Onomil in some form, I would venture to guess that the Blue has attained sentience.

[foux]

The way they switched between Hagino and Mari during the ending scenes in ep11...seemed like the ship reacted to Mari's emotions, but that may have been coincidence.

[Haruyasha]

Originally Posted by Kazu-kun

Spoiler for manga:

Actually, YUI's fake image of herself can move and speak. I don't see why she wouldn't be able to make the angel do the same if she wanted.

That's just mistranslation. Azanael is talking in general, about the effect of the Emiru Force waves upon all the inhabitant of the island and Blue's 200 crew members.

There's a lot of mistranslations in that episode.

Originally Posted by grey_moon

Doesn't Hagino's blood remind anyone else of another bodily fluid? Mari might have just performed the equivalent act of reproducing

Uhh no, since if you remember what Ekaril said about females and the Arume. (Their survival in general.)

I always just thought they use emiru force to form a 'thing'. As for the sperm, probably genetically created.

[Lesca]

Originally Posted by foux

The way they switched between Hagino and Mari during the ending scenes in ep11...seemed like the ship reacted to Mari's emotions, but that may have been coincidence.

I liked how they did that, and when they did something similar in earlier episodes, for me its always made me think that physically they were in different situations but it connected both of them.

Spoiler for ep 11:

Even after seeing one of the students actually call the ship a possible UFO i'm still surprised at how calm everyone was

For some reason after seeing the subbed version I noticed how nice the music near the end of the episode was.
On the offical website, at the DVD page for the second volume does anyone know if the art image there is of Mari and Hagino?

[Haruyasha]

Originally Posted by Lesca

Spoiler for ep 11:

Even after seeing one of the students actually call the ship a possible UFO i'm still surprised at how calm everyone was

That's because humans (specifically our military) have launched stranger-looking objects into the sky before.

Now if it was a flying box.. I'd be worried. (Which actually happened somewhere.. heh)

[Kazu-kun]

Originally Posted by Lesca

On the offical website, at the DVD page for the second volume does anyone know if the art image there is of Mari and Hagino?

No, those are characters from a new manga called Blue Drop ~Maiorita Tenshi~ which is serialized in the DVD releases.

[Lady_in_blue]

Hello everyone im new to this forum and just like you guys i cant wait till episode 12. dozo yoroshiku!
also this might have brought up before but does anybody think that mari fell in love at first sight with hagino the very moment she saw her standing by the sea port?

[Kazu-kun]

Originally Posted by Lady_in_blue

Hello everyone im new to this forum and just like you guys i cant wait till episode 12. dozo yoroshiku!
also this might have brought up before but does anybody think that mari fell in love at first sight with hagino the very moment she saw her standing by the sea port?

I think she was just mesmerized by her beauty.

BTW, chapter 3 of Blue Drop Tenshi no Bokura has been scanlated.

[Solace]

Just saw episode eleven. Wow. I'm speechless.

[arkxkra]

Now the sensei know Hagino true identity, i wonder what will happen next.
I dont understand is BLUE(at the end of ep 11), it is something bad(really bad) will happen after BLUE crash?

[Solace]

Originally Posted by arkxkra

Now the sensei know Hagino true identity, i wonder what will happen next.
I dont understand is BLUE(at the end of ep 11), it is something bad(really bad) will happen after BLUE crash?

Gotta spoiler this:

Spoiler for episode 11 stuff:

If the subs are remotely accurate (and understanding basic context), it appears that Blue and it's crew were part of an experimental scouting party, which was also expendable. It's not clear if the accident that happened was the result of malfunction on Blue's part or if it was tampering to see what would happen if the Emul Force was exposed to humans.

It's pretty obvious something isn't adding up. Mari and Hagino clearly have a deeper link than just liking each other, Onomil is now a "ghost", and now Azanael finds out that the Master Commander knew just how expendable Blue and everyone on it actually was. I guess it puts her revenge against Hagino in an entirely new light. I think it also points out that at least in the Master Commanders eyes, the Blue experiment was a failure that must be destroyed at all costs.

Personally, something tells me that a lot of this guilt is going to be thrown aside by a revelation that it wasn't the fault of anyone on Blue, especially Hagino. That's just speculation on my part though.

I'm not exactly sure how the Sensei ties into this though. She's working behind the scenes obviously, but for whom? It also makes me wonder about the Gardener, who seems kind of suspicious (he's a background character who seems to get a lot of screentime for someone with almost no lines).

[Rhyel]

Blue Drop is near to end and each episode let more and more questions with no answer.

Spoiler for The two final episodes will answer this?:

1) Why Hagino attack Mari at first episode?

2) What Onomil discovered about Blue?

3) Onomil is a ghost now... Err Hã?

4) The Blue Squadron is a beta tester?

5) All people in island was killed in two ways, much as murdered (needs explanation) and other was by a tsumani (needs more explanation)

[foux]

Originally Posted by Mentar

One addition for episode 11: Since this line seemed very important in context, I asked one of our Eclipse TLs to have a look at it.

Spoiler:

Timecode 23:16, Azanael in front of the monitor:

Floser: "Blue is the suicide squad for the main fleet... a specially formed... experimental department?"

Our TL's take (romanized, and he hasn't watched the show before, so he doesn't have any context): "buruu gata emiru foosu doraibu no bakushuku ni yotte ... fukujiteki ni seiseisareru.... shinenha wo gyouketsu suru busshitsu??"

==> "A bi-product substance formed from the implosion of a blue-type Emiru force drive that condenses thought waves??"

Since I could see it alter the course of the discussion completely, I thought I should add this...
And theres a description added with bd11 at nyaa about not exactly geting what azanael says at the end.
thats alot of technical stuff.

You guys should follow the thread where you left of at your last visit arkxkra, Solace, Rhyel
so i dont know if they were completely wrong or not.

[Deathkillz]

End of ep 11

Spoiler:

Ahh...it must be onomil's spiritual guidence that gave Azanael the true top secret report.
Gut feelings tell me that the killing of hagino's troops and blue's drive malfunction was planned all along by none other than master commander. Now she is trying to erase any evidence >.>

[Kieli]

Originally Posted by Deathkillz

End of ep 11

Spoiler:

Ahh...it must be onomil's spiritual guidence that gave Azanael the true top secret report.
Gut feelings tell me that the killing of hagino's troops and blue's drive malfunction was planned all along by none other than master commander. Now she is trying to erase any evidence >.>

That's why I said a few pages ago that Azanael is going to feel like a chump.

Spoiler:

Mastah Commandah seriously played her. She used Azanael's own feelings of revenge to get her to disable Blue and then launches a pre-emptive strike in order to obliterate Blue. Things might have gone differently, however, if Hagino/Ekaril had been a good little soldier and not declared independence from the rest of the fleet. Still, MC may have been planning to sacrifice them all along for the experiment's sake.

[oneplusme]

Originally Posted by Rhyel

Blue Drop is near to end and each episode let more and more questions with no answer.

Spoiler for The two final episodes will answer this?:

1) Why Hagino attack Mari at first episode?

4) The Blue Squadron is a beta tester?

5) All people in island was killed in two ways, much as murdered (needs explanation) and other was by a tsumani (needs more explanation)

Spoiler for spoiler-y answers:

1) Well, my current impression is that it was her initial reaction to her own grief and shame at what happened. The scene where she's standing on the rocks indicates that she knows in advance who Mari is; what stops her appears to be the memory of young Mari crying after she rescued her.

Alternatively, it could have been the Blue controlling her...

4) Possibly. It's pretty clear that Ekaril and her crew were set up without their knowledge.

5) These seem to have been answered already. The Emul Force Drive clearly caused everyone to turn on one another (perhaps because they began to see their worst nightmares taking form). The tsunami seems likely to have been caused by the explosion aboard the Blue.