2012-07-29, 03:29 | Link #601 | |
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2012-07-29, 05:20 | Link #602 |
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So after Murder next episode, will we get the Lizbeth side story before we finally reach the bulk of Vol 1?
That's how it looks to me, anyways. I wonder if they plan to reveal dual blades in Lizbeth's story or wait to reveal it 2-3 episodes later when Kirito destroys the level 74 boss.. |
2012-07-29, 06:22 | Link #604 |
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Even though it isn't canon since it only showed in ep 4 of anime, one of Rosalia's thugs was dual wielding axes and even activated a dual weapon skill (both of his axes glow pink/magenta). I wonder if that is one of those "rare" skills like Cline's katana skill, didn't Kirito mention how something like only 10 people each knew those rare skills?
Maybe the studio was just giving the characters some liberties with different weapons and didn't think much of it.. |
2012-07-29, 07:06 | Link #605 | |
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2012-07-29, 07:08 | Link #606 |
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There are 10 unique skills, but they never mentioned how many rare skills there were. The rare skills are supposedly unlockable though, in that anyone who meets the requirements will get them, and this information is shared between players. Unique skills are unique.
I suppose it's possible that "Dual Axes" is a merely a rare skill unlike "Dual Blades" but I think it's more likely that the anime staff just didn't think about it very much. |
2012-07-29, 07:10 | Link #607 |
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Could it be then, that that was one of the 10 Unique Skill users? But what is someone like that doing in a Orange Guild, rather than being in the Clearer Groups? Unless of course Unique Skills does not necessarily equate to leveling ability.
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2012-07-29, 07:15 | Link #609 | |
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On the other hand, Kirito was supposedly given Dual Blades because he had the best reflexes of anyone in the game. Assuming that it's actually true that he has the best reflexes, it was probably measured by the NervGear somehow rather than Kayama choosing someone he'd like to have it. In which case some skills might have been given to someone who never even stepped outside the first town, depending on what other "Outside System Stats" they are based on. |
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2012-07-29, 07:50 | Link #611 | ||
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@Aprah/others - Can you specifically quote the scene where someone mentions there being 10 unique skills? I've heard that rumor for a while but have not found it, I did however find the scene where he mentions rare skills: Spoiler for Vol 1, Ch 12:
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2012-07-29, 08:01 | Link #612 |
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Only thing I recall is (too lazy to check LN right now) there is 10 secret skill. Secret skill we know so far are katana, battle healing, meditation, matial art. Two of them are unique holy sword and dual blade. I don't know about original Japanese name but I do believe that dual blade mean dual wield. There shouldn't be any dual axe/dagger etc. but that is just my opinion.
EDIT: yes that was what I recalled
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2012-07-29, 08:07 | Link #613 | |
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2012-07-29, 08:22 | Link #614 | |
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2012-07-29, 08:25 | Link #615 | |
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Still, it's about time they reintroduce her in the story. Also they can't introduce Lizbeth without the connection between Kirito and Asuna been done. If they plan to adapt this story in one anime episode, they better do some very good editing. Unfortunately I'm quite pessimistic after taking episode 2 and 3 into account. |
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2012-07-29, 08:34 | Link #616 | |
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Also, this isn't the only place they mention it, it's just the first one I found. I find your skepticism kind of disturbing honestly. Why do you want so hard to believe that there aren't 10 Unique skills? Edit: The Battle Healing gives him 600 HP every 10 seconds. That's 60 HP per second. He has 14,500 health. That's about 0.4% per second. It would take 4 minutes to heal himself to full. That's like... nothing. I played a troll in World of Warcraft. That kind of regeneration is a joke that you laugh about with your guild whenever you randomly survive an attack with 1 HP. Last edited by Clarste; 2012-07-29 at 08:50. |
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2012-07-29, 09:01 | Link #617 | |
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Battle healing aka auto-HPregen is mostly OP because it removes any need for Kirito to buy non-instant regenerative potions (which also saves him a little money as well), massively boosts his effective HP, and gives even "squishy" DPS like Kirito a massive buff to prolonged grinding. Rare skills are only suspicious because per the quote from Caliber, the requirements to unlock them are not given/vague at best. Also, in the Black Swordsman when Kirito says he heals 600 every 10 seconds from Battle Healing although we aren't aware of what his BH skill is. That was ~8 months before the game was cleared, and we do know what skill level his Battle Healing was at when it was cleared: 944. Source is ME2. edit: About your edit, watch the anime again and you see he heals in ticks of what appears to be 5-10s, although we aren't sure exactly it can be assumed that it isn't every second. It might be a joke in WoW since some skills are normally guaranteed to hit with high enough hit rating (not counting certain cooldowns/skills) and isn't based on players having full manipulation of their character and thus is overall a poor analogy. If you were someone like Kirito who could dodge/parry 95%+ attacks in WoW something like troll regen would be quite good to heal up what little damage you do take. Luckily for Kirito there isn't +hit rating and dodge is based on personal skill and not a diminishing return system.. Last edited by styr; 2012-07-29 at 09:12. |
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2012-07-29, 09:06 | Link #618 | |
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edit: There is +hit actually. It's an option for upgrading weapons. Kirito doesn't like it because the feeling of the blade being moved on its own towards the target makes him lose his balance. |
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2012-07-29, 09:12 | Link #619 |
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It's surprising to me that we're discussing the total no. of Unique Skills put in place in the system.
Quoted from the man himself. Spoiler for vol 1:
The way he sentenced it also clearly implies to me that in his mind, he has made his 'Group of Ten' a highly exclusive group ( intended for teh JRPG drama), and highly unlikely that he set parameters that any random grunt could had obtained them.
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My apologies for all the posts, but he's another couple screencaps of the dual wielding axe thug: pic 1 pic2 His axes also look... quite different in those pics to when he was just standing around... makes me think it was the animators fault after all! It also seems the weapons change shape between pic1 and pic2. Last edited by Daniel E.; 2012-07-29 at 16:18. |
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